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  • Mar 3, 2014, 07:40 AM
    excon
    Hello again, wrongwingers:

    I hear the usual gum flapping from your side, but NO ideas about what to do... Yawwwwn.

    excon
  • Mar 3, 2014, 07:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    At least we aren't excusing the continued incompetence and abuse of power.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:06 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    At least we aren't excusing the continued incompetence and abuse of power.
    If you mean incompetence on Obama's part, that means you want him to DO something else. What, might that BE? Oh, I understand you have NO ideas - just more gum flapping.

    And about that "abuse of power".... We have protection from that by congress.. And, it's YOUR GUY in charge. But, he ain't doing ANYTHING. That you're LETTING Obama "get away" with abuse of power, tells me ALL I need to know.

    Why don't you get the same messages from their INACTION as I do?

    Over to you, winger.

    excon
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:21 AM
    speechlesstx
    That you continue to ignore all of the bills the House has put forth or has in the works that will be DOA on Dingy "Americans are a bunch liars" Reid's desk tells me you have no interest in DOING anything and are (oddly) perfectly happy with such abuses you would have condemned in the previous administration I believe your side referred to as Dumbya.

    House GOP set to target Obama admin on regulations, executive power | Fox News

    House passes bills to rein in IRS
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:28 AM
    tomder55
    Has the emperor recalled the US Ambassador as Canada has done ? Nope . Did he attend his national security meeting this week ?Nope . Has he called for a NATO meeting so they can coordinate a unified response ? Nope.
    Has he made it clear that he cannot take a "flexible " position on arms control as long as there are Russian troops in Ukraine ? Nope . Those are just some of the things he could do immediately without threatening the Russians with a nuclear strike.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:29 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    That you continue to ignore all of the bills the House has put forth or has in the works that will be DOA on Dingy "Americans are a bunch liars" Reid's desk tells me you have no interest in DOING anything
    That you IGNORE the bills passed by the Senate and are DOA in the Republican lead House, tells me that you're a one way puppy.. That you don't mention it takes REPUBLICANS to pass bills in the Senate, tells me that you live in an alternate world than I do.

    But, we KNEW that.

    excon
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:31 AM
    tomder55
    And what's he doing today instead ? Putting the squeeze on Bibi .
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:36 AM
    tomder55
    even the Compost thinks his foreign policy is not based in reality .
    President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy - The Washington Post

    Quote:

    as long as some leaders play by what Mr. Kerry dismisses as 19th-century rules, the United States can't pretend that the only game is in another arena altogether. Military strength, trustworthiness as an ally, staying power in difficult corners of the world such as Afghanistan — these still matter, much as we might wish they did not. While the United States has been retrenching, the tide of democracy in the world, which once seemed inexorable, has been receding. In the long run, that's harmful to U.S. national security, too. As Mr. Putin ponders whether to advance further — into eastern Ukraine, say — he will measure the seriousness of U.S. and allied actions, not their statements. China, pondering its next steps in the East China Sea will do the same. Sadly, that's the nature of the century we're living in.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    That you IGNORE the bills passed by the Senate and are DOA in the Republican lead House, tells me that you're a one way puppy.. That you don't mention it takes REPUBLICANS to pass bills in the Senate, tells me that you live in an alternate world than I do.

    But, we KNEW that.

    excon

    They can't vote if he doesn't bring them to the floor, which he won't do. He's too busy calling Americans liars and refusing - again - to pass a budget.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 08:59 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I know you wanna IGNORE the bills passed by the senate WITH Republican support, that DIE in the House. But, that's why I'm here.

    excon
  • Mar 3, 2014, 09:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    Okie dokie then. Meanwhile, Syrians disappointed in Obama's tough talk followed by a cave to the Russians, are telling Ukrainians not to get their hopes up for anything useful from the U.S.

    Don't know why anyone is surprised, he promised to "lead from behind." That was one promise he kept.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 09:34 AM
    speechlesstx
    1 Attachment(s)
    And in a moment of international crisis such as this what would this administration's response naturally be? That's right, bash Bush.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 11:23 AM
    tomder55
    they'd much rather give Putin a cartoonish red reset button.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 03:37 PM
    speechlesstx
    You know that mislabeled reset button? Turns out it was also stolen from a hotel, not only giving them a stolen mislabeled "gift" to "reset relations" but leaving the hotel without an emergency stop button, which is not cool.
  • Mar 3, 2014, 06:11 PM
    tomder55
    The Amateur: Edward Klein: 9781621570905: Amazon.com: Books
  • Mar 3, 2014, 06:19 PM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    What Montesquieu said very well MIGHT be true. But, in the United States of America, OUR House is controlled by Republicans, and the Democrats NEED Republicans to pass any legislation in the Senate. So, we're a LONG, LONG way from what I think, YOU think is going on.

    excon
  • Mar 4, 2014, 03:20 AM
    tomder55
    So you are saying that the opposition party must role over and play dead ;essentially fulfilling the Montesquieu quote. Believe me ....if I have any critique of Speaker Bonehead ,it's that he has caved too often to the will of the emperor . Has spending been cut or even reduced ? No . There is no effective debt limit or restrictions on spending at all . And yet the emperor has the onions to tell the country we have been in austerity and that he wants a $4 trillion budget this year. Spare me the bs that the emperor hasn't gotten his way. He got his stimulus spending .He got his national government managed health care plan passed . His social agenda is on the march with the assistance of the compliant 3rd branch of government . America is in retreat around the world ,as he desired . What he doesn't get from the legislative branch he unconstitutionally usurps . Where is the opposition you speak of ?
    My link to the book was specifically about foreign policy...his diplomatic and foreign policy blunders ,and his bluster that is globally recognized as phony .
  • Mar 4, 2014, 09:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    1 Attachment(s)
    Yup.
  • Mar 5, 2014, 02:44 PM
    speechlesstx
    The latest photo from the WH on the situation in the Ukraine.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh6F40NCcAAPyU7.jpg
  • Mar 5, 2014, 06:44 PM
    talaniman
    Of course you have a point, I assume. Or some facts to go with your pictures. Maybe not huh?
  • Mar 5, 2014, 06:55 PM
    talaniman
    Here is an aversion to reality you can't blame on the dems,

    How big a mess is Ryan's report on poverty? Scholars say: Very big. - latimes.com

    Quote:

    Perhaps the most egregious case is Ryan's misuse of a 2013 paper from Columbia University's Population Research Center. Ryan claimed the study found that poverty fell from 22% in 1969 to 16% in 2012, based on a Census Bureau statistic known as the Supplemental Poverty Measure. That's true as far as it goes, but it goes suspiciously not far enough. As Jane Waldfogel, one of the Columbia researchers, observes, the study actually began its measurement with 1967, when the poverty rate was 26%. In other words, Ryan's paper arbitrarily ignores two years of measurement, thereby cutting the size of the poverty decline by a third.
    Sloppy research, or intentionally misleading? BOTH? Probably. Sorry no pictures.
  • Mar 5, 2014, 08:08 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Of course you have a point, I assume. Or some facts to go with your pictures. Maybe not huh?

    I'm impressed that he actually showed up
  • Mar 6, 2014, 05:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Of course you have a point, I assume. Or some facts to go with your pictures. Maybe not huh?

    Did you look closely?
  • Mar 6, 2014, 06:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Here is an aversion to reality you can't blame on the dems,

    How big a mess is Ryan's report on poverty? Scholars say: Very big. - latimes.com



    Sloppy research, or intentionally misleading? BOTH? Probably. Sorry no pictures.


    And no one in government has ever given us misleading numbers, eh? How many jobs "saved or created?" How many Obamacare enrollees? How many economic reports have been downgraded of late?
  • Mar 10, 2014, 11:05 AM
    speechlesstx
    Leave it to libs to protest a generous donation to a hospital, because well, evil Kochs.

    Quote:

    The Koch brothers are at it again. Their right-wing political Panzer Division descended on a New York City hospital over the weekend to protest (!) the addition of a new ambulatory care center. What the hell, Koch bros? Why not pro-America?


    Sorry. That’s not quite right. In fact, it was the New York State Nurses’ Association, the NAACP New York State Conference, and SEIU Local 1199, among others, who marched on the soon-to-be-built David H. Koch Center at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, which was funded in part by a $100 million donation from the man one prominent liberal recently predicted would go down in history as a “famously evil person.”


    The donation was the largest in the hospital’s history, and will presumably create a fair number of new nursing jobs. So why are the usual suspects up in arms? Well, the agitators were apparently agitated because this particular hospital didn’t need all the money. Oh yeah, and because it was International Women’s Day, and the Kochs are the primary funders of the “war on women’s reproductive rights … and many other issues of concern to American women.” They’re also behind “the effort to defeat and repeal healthcare to all Americans,” whatever that means.


    Ben Kallos, the local New York City Council representative, was on hand ...

    Just to be clear: Kallos is a sitting city council member who attended a protest against the addition of a new hospital care center in the neighborhood he represents because … Koch brothers!
    What the hell???
  • Mar 18, 2014, 10:11 AM
    tomder55
    crickets chirping. Anyone who has been treated at most of the NYC hospitals have been treated in a hospital that Koch Bros have donated subtantially to. In his lifetime,David Koch has pledged or contributed more than $1 billion to cancer research, medical centers, and educational institutions.His brother Charles has been equally generous.
  • Mar 18, 2014, 10:25 AM
    talaniman
    So he is generous? He is also a liar with his flooding of commercials about horror stories that have been debunked about people losing insurance policies, and his energy companies are the worse polluters in many states. He pays his fines.

    He ain't perfect, but he's rich. There is good and bad in all humans. So what?
  • Mar 18, 2014, 10:30 AM
    NeedKarma
    Nice little addition by the author:
    Quote:

    (Full disclosure: I am contractually obligated to incorporate an anti-Clinton angle in everything I write,
    What news agency puts those stipulations on their reporters/writers?
  • Mar 18, 2014, 10:35 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:
    Quote:

    crickets chirping.
    The Koch bros are very generous people... They even contribute to PBS.. Whoda thunk that? Nonetheless, that doesn't mean they can BUY elections.

    No crickets here.

    excon
  • Mar 18, 2014, 10:36 AM
    smoothy
    Debunked horror stories about people losing their insurance over Obamacare? Not even Obama believes those were anything but true.

    That's why the emporer issued decrees delaying many parts and issueing exemptions to practially anyone who contributed enough to democrat causes..

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