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  • Jun 11, 2020, 08:54 AM
    jlisenbe
    1. Show me my exaggerations. I'd love to see them.
    2. I never mentioned Trump. You just had to involve him just so everyone can see how much you hate him. Well OK.
    3. This was your original STATEMENT. "Like the dufus you seems so self absorbed you cannot respect the bonds built from shared experiences that worked out well for us and our allies." Just shows once again how much of your mind is occupied by Trump. It's like a love affair except it's based on hatred.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 01:17 PM
    tomder55
    I love that Australia is our allies . Despite the rhetoric they always put up when it counts . If I have not made my position clear ;there should be an alliance of all former Brit colonies in a common interest alliance .No other freedom loving peoples quite share our values . btw . The Brits have a statue of Cromwell that no one dare think of taking down even though he was responsible for the impaling of Catholics . You do NOT destroy your history like the Taliban,ISIS and the left would have .
  • Jun 11, 2020, 01:45 PM
    jlisenbe
    I'm fine with doing what you suggest. The bigger question is, how do we get to a balanced budget?
  • Jun 11, 2020, 02:28 PM
    talaniman
    I think that our alliances both military, intelligence, trade and many other areas are important enough not to make public pronouncements against them, and the dufus doesn't quite get that. Partners don't threaten each other do they? I can do without such tactics myself.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 02:38 PM
    jlisenbe
    So how are we going to balance the budget?
  • Jun 11, 2020, 03:34 PM
    tomder55
    a robust economy is a starter . then if you are going to make cuts in foreign policy start with the money that goes to enemies. As far as the Aussies go ;they don't get free passes ;far from it . The only reason Aussie treasure and blood went to Afghanistan was because of provisions of ANZUS . Yes we have bases there . But the Aussies also have 580 defense personnel in 31 states embedded into the US military . The Aussies conduct joint defense exercises like 'Talisman Saber ' with the US forces and other alliance forces . This exercise occurs in Aussie's territory every couple years, and would not be possible without the support and cooperation of the locals . The Aussies have been our only ally which has had our back in every conflict we have been in since WWII .
  • Jun 11, 2020, 03:56 PM
    jlisenbe
    The Aussies spend 2% of GDP on defense. The European "allies" spend a similar amount. We spend almost 3.5%. That has to change.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 04:25 PM
    talaniman
    You can only change what we spend.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 05:26 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The Aussies spend 2% of GDP on defense. The European "allies" spend a similar amount. We spend almost 3.5%. That has to change.

    Here we go, the imperialists telling us how we should behave, if we need a standing army of a million men we would quickly get one as we did in WWII, the only reason our expenditure is at the level it is is we don't keep a million men standing around, instead our standing army are hard core special forces who I seem to recall spearheaded your incursion into Iraq. Our expenditure is appropriate and has been increased from the days of socialist government. Yes your military expenditure has to change, you have too many aircraft carrier groups wandering the world
  • Jun 11, 2020, 05:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    I don't care what you do, but I have no plans on bankrupting our country to defend countries that don't want to adequately defend themselves.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 06:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't care what you do, but I have no plans on bankrupting our country to defend countries that don't want to adequately defend themselves.

    Is this the latest Trump talking/tweeting point, you want to reduce your bases in Europe, go ahead, it doesn't worry me, you want to reduce your bases in Asia, go ahead, it doesn't worry me. A little less argy, bargy in the world is a good thing and afterall you need the troops on the street to control all those black people

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...fc569108902449

    tell me is taking Hydoxychloroquine a prelude to madness?
  • Jun 11, 2020, 06:59 PM
    tomder55
    we need to move our troops in Europe to Poland and stop occupying German beer halls ..
  • Jun 11, 2020, 07:08 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...fc569108902449

    tell me is taking Hydoxychloroquine a prelude to madness?
    as Napoleon said ;a whiff of grape would take care of that autonomous zone
  • Jun 11, 2020, 07:54 PM
    jlisenbe
    We need to balance the budget. Simple concept.
  • Jun 11, 2020, 08:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    as Napoleon said ;a whiff of grape would take care of that autonomous zone

    which autonomous zone do you speak of? Germany. Poland, I agree that you should vacate German beer halls, but invade Poland, no many have tried that route and it always leads to disaster
  • Jun 12, 2020, 07:07 AM
    jlisenbe
    I think he was referring to Seattle.
  • Jun 12, 2020, 03:37 PM
    jlisenbe
    https://scontent.fmem1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...64&oe=5F09CB57
  • Jun 12, 2020, 04:07 PM
    tomder55
    Won't need cannons . The CHAZians are eating their own inside the autonomous zone . The guy with the AK is calling himself a warlord . The residents inside the zone(it is a residential neighborhood) have had all their liberties taken away and the moron mayor is calling it a block party . This cannot last .
  • Jun 12, 2020, 04:43 PM
    talaniman
    @JL, whose holding you or anyone else responsible for the past? What's does that have to do with acknowledging the cruelty and atrocities and making redress for it?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Won't need cannons . The CHAZians are eating their own inside the autonomous zone . The guy with the AK is calling himself a warlord . The residents inside the zone(it is a residential neighborhood) have had all their liberties taken away and the moron mayor is calling it a block party . This cannot last .

    It won't and negotiations are at the early stage of a peaceful solution.
  • Jun 12, 2020, 05:28 PM
    tomder55
    What's to negotiate ? They are illegally occupying a police station ,a public park ,and a residential neighborhood holding taxpaying residents hostage . Get out now. I told you about what happened to the bonus army for a reason. Businesses in the surrounding blocks are hiring private security firms because of the risk on the occupation expanding into their neighborhoods and knowing the police have been emasculated .

    I know what their demands are .... abolish the police ;free health care and free education. Typical progressive pabulum. Since they are autonomous they should just declare that the law in their occupied territory and provide it themselves. And speaking of contradictions ;the very first thing they did was to set up border walls to control who enters their territory . and now a quick message from Raz the warlord of CHAZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clZ5pdrc_X8

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