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Paraclete: Never heard it verbalized the way you put it here but the DRAGON analogy with Trump is a good one: Trump walked into the STATUS QUO POLITICS AS USUAL PLAYPEN we have had in place forever and didn't asked for permission...he didn't follow the patent RULES, he didn't just GO ALONG with all the schemes they had set up years and years before...the denizen vermin had a nice little Payton Place set up and Trump came in and knocked their little sand castles down....Trump is an outsider! The denizens of "The Swamp" had everyone convinced that you had to be a POLITICIAN to be POTUS: Trump destroyed that illusion and that is what all this Russia Investigation and Impeachment crap is all about: Trying to get rid of the guy who disrupted their little perfect world....everyone knows it, too, but they won't say it but its the truth.

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I almost agreed with you except the conclusion you presented. The Russia investigation and the Impeachment are about the words, actions and antics of the dufus crossing lines of good behavior, that may be high crimes and misdemeanors, as well as explaining the HOW Vlad also crossed a line. Defend the dufus if you must, but defending Vlad is a whole nuther ballgame...he is no friend and has devious intentions that are in his own interest.

Surely you grasp the difference.

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Yes I think the dragon has been running around here spreading fire all about, This is definitely the worst fire season we have faced, I cannot remember one as widespread as this, certainly, I cannot remember days of smoke haze blanketing the town and as I sometimes suffer with asthma I have to be careful. It certainly doesn't look like Christmas

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Challenging weather, for sure, but hopefully we survive and find a way to adapt and mitigate our losses and are better prepared for the next challenge. For now though, just surviving THIS crisis is your only hope. I think if I were you I would have an oxygen mask and an escape route handy if that's possible, or be ready to run like hell away from this disaster. LOL, maybe at the first smell of smoke.

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Challenging weather, for sure, but hopefully we survive and find a way to adapt and mitigate our losses and are better prepared for the next challenge. For now though, just surviving THIS crisis is your only hope. I think if I were you I would have an oxygen mask and an escape route handy if that's possible, or be ready to run like hell away from this disaster. LOL, maybe at the first smell of smoke.

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Not likely to be an issue in town although there have been two nearby fires in recent days, as long as the pine forests don't burn we will be ok but it is dreadful for many. Nowhere to go Tal the route to my relatives elsewhere is bad, so will just stay here. 37C tomorrow, just hunker down and stay cool

I've never been through a wildfire, nor even near one, just blizzards and tornados and floods, and they were scary enough. I doubt I could even sleep with the smell of smoke and the fear of a fast moving wildfire, let alone worrying about my peeps. Hunker well my friend and stay cool.

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I've never been through a wildfire, nor even near one, just blizzards and tornados and floods, and they were scary enough. I doubt I could even sleep with the smell of smoke and the fear of a fast moving wildfire, let alone worrying about my peeps. Hunker well my friend and stay cool.

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Yes it is bad, had a fire crown over the top of me in 1975, the roar is like a dragon, very scary, still hoping for rain

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-...orate/11780390

Just in case you're still interested!

Lot to learn if your mind is open and WILLING.

"The find is, of course, controversial, because that tiny axe fragment we mentioned earlier has been dated to around the same time period - 44,000 to 49,000 years ago. The problem is these estimates are all fairly rough, and still up for interpretation - Hamm's team, for example, insists that the axe is no more than 48,000 years old."[E]veryone is keen to make their site sound older," Sue O'Connor from the Australian National University, who was not involved in either find, told Marcus Strom at The Sydney Morning Herald. But she did add that "the Hamm discovery was likely older"."The methodology of this study is as good as it gets," she said. "It's a very important site and a really significant find."

My mind is quite open and quite willing. You finally came up with some evidence to back up your claim. It does sound legit.

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Just in case you're still interested!

Lot to learn if your mind is open and WILLING.

"The find is, of course, controversial, because that tiny axe fragment we mentioned earlier has been dated to around the same time period - 44,000 to 49,000 years ago. The problem is these estimates are all fairly rough, and still up for interpretation - Hamm's team, for example, insists that the axe is no more than 48,000 years old."[E]veryone is keen to make their site sound older," Sue O'Connor from the Australian National University, who was not involved in either find, told Marcus Strom at The Sydney Morning Herald. But she did add that "the Hamm discovery was likely older"."The methodology of this study is as good as it gets," she said. "It's a very important site and a really significant find."

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Yes Tal been in the Flinders Ranges, very dry place, I expect that those people were wandering because they were looking for water and food. The aboriginal never developed agriculture, they separated before that innovation became popular. it is said the first wave arrived 60,000 years ago, so assumptions that the place was quickly populated, or explored, is probably a myth. These peoples don't move around much today and I expect that is the way it was, only doing what you had too. The centre is a very inhospitable place and no one crosses those lands unless they have to. It may have been wetter during the ice age but there is no evidence it ever supported a large population

I don't know what kind of climate was around where they find these old human settlements many thousands of years ago, or where they went afterward, but they are finding them all over the world. Wonder if future man will find our stuff from this time and wonder where we went, or what happened to us? The most fascinating are the ones that lie beneath oceans and seas, that hints at rising water levels way back in the past.

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I don't know what kind of climate was around where they find these old human settlements many thousands of years ago, or where they went afterward, but they are finding them all over the world. Wonder if future man will find our stuff from this time and wonder where we went, or what happened to us? The most fascinating are the ones that lie beneath oceans and seas, that hints at rising water levels way back in the past.

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Yes Tal the timeline seems to be stretched a little more than a literal reading of theology might suggest but then who knows what ancient man got up to away from the Levant. Future man might wonder at how stupid we were, being unable to settle our differences and cooperate. I know archeologists date things with ash layers and the smoke is back this morning, so I don't know what that tells us

Tells us that you have a huge fire since the ash extends all the way to the New Zealand glaciers. No telling why or where ancient man walked to why, or from where or what, but obviously the did, and future man may well mark this as more barbaric times for human kind.

perhaps, however, it is unlikey the future for mankind will extend far enough for us to be considered barbarians. this is a golden age perhaps tipped towards decline.

Prevailing winds carry our smoke to kiwi, that is 2,500 miles, not surprising then that everywhere here is clouded in smoke

Things tend to be rather gloomy when you're in the middle of a disaster but keep your head up, and endure. Could be worse! You could have a volcano erupting too! Oh wait you do!

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Things tend to be rather gloomy when you're in the middle of a disaster but keep your head up, and endure. Could be worse! You could have a volcano erupting too! Oh wait you do!

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No Tal that is in Kiwi, we don't have any active volcanos here, I think the kiwis decided that they wouldn't be outdone

I think they have overdone it a bit.

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I think they have overdone it a bit.

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Yes many victims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjlmFr4FMvI

and you know what, the outcome of the Madrid Conference and the anger of the CO2 religious nutcases confirm that it is all stupidity

Paraclete: Man, you nailed it! AGAIN!

It's what I do!

Interesting video. Question. Those who argue for reducing CO2 emissions, what is their true agenda?