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  • Jul 28, 2019, 05:34 AM
    jlisenbe
    Anyone who watched the hearing would have a hard time defending Mueller. I felt sorry for him. He seemed completely lost.
  • Jul 28, 2019, 06:29 AM
    paraclete
    Perhaps you could extend your comments to incompetent
  • Jul 28, 2019, 06:43 AM
    jlisenbe
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    Perhaps you could extend your comments to incompetent
    I was trying to be a little kind.
  • Jul 28, 2019, 08:29 AM
    talaniman
    If you wanted a performance you should watch the Academy Awards, or a good movie. The hearings were none of that but a serious airing of the facts found in Muellers Report. Leave it to conservatives to take style points and loud noise over substance, and ignore the facts.
  • Jul 28, 2019, 10:26 AM
    tomder55
    The fact is that it became clear while listening to the hearings was that Mueller was a figurehead and the real work of the investigation and report itself was produced by that pit bull goon Andrew Weissman . I recognized his Gestapo tactics early on because I witnessed the same garbage during his prosecutions of Enron and the Arthur Anderson accounting firm.

    Weissman's prosecution of Arthur Anderson accounting firm cost 100,000 people their jobs . SCOTUS later UNANIMOUSLY overturned the conviction .The defendants in the Enron case filed multiple complaints about Weissman threatening witnesses. The judge had to assure lawyers for witnesses that their clients could meet with the Enron defendants without the government’s permission and that the government could not target witnesses for prosecution based on their cooperation with the defendants. Weissman's conduct was noted and he abruptly resigned from the Enron task force and the DOJ in the middle of jury deliberations indicates that he was forced out by the DOJ .His resignation came following trial testimony from two witnesses that “based on discussions with the Task Force before their testimony, they both felt threatened by a possible indictment if they testified on behalf of the defendants.”

    The conduct of the Mueller task force was if anything even more brutal . Roger Stone and his wife were woken by a pre-dawn raid of their home . CNN was tipped and was there in full force to cover the raid and Stone's arrest . This happened AFTER Stone had already agreed to surrender himself. They extracted a confession from General Flynn after they threatened prosecution against his son. There is real doubt even among the FBI agents that sat in on the Flynn interview that he actually perjured himself .It was Weissman that orchestrated the Gestapo-like pre-dawn raid on Manafort in his home, holding him and his family at gunpoint (although all of them were unarmed and posed no threat to federal agents). Manafort spent 8 months locked up in solitary confinement because he attempted to contact someone to serve as a witness for his defense. The purpose was not because Manafort was too dangerous or for his protection . The purpose was to break his will . It was torture pure and simple .Manafort is now in a wheelchair . Jerome Corsi is suing the Special Council office after he turned down a plea deal that would've had him lie.
    It was recently revealed that Weissman went to the lawyers of a Ukraine oligarch with a deal that if they lied about Trump and they would make his 2014 criminal charges go away . Weissman gave them specific instructions on which lies about Trump to tell .

    So Weissman's foot print was all over the case .
  • Jul 28, 2019, 11:50 AM
    jlisenbe
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    Leave it to conservatives to take style points and loud noise over substance, and ignore the facts.
    I was actually referring to the substance. The loud noise, as best I could tell, came from the dems.
  • Jul 29, 2019, 04:48 AM
    talaniman
    I've read the right wing attacks on Weissman, and the ones on Mueller, so no surprise discrediting the report targets the ones who worked on it. Laughable that you make grifters and opportunist like Page, and Stone some kind of heroes in the process, but now that the FIRST shoe has fallen, more may yet fall too. Going after rich bad guys really bums you guys out huh?

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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I was actually referring to the substance. The loud noise, as best I could tell, came from the dems.

    Not one repub asked Mueller about the Russians. Guess they were more interested in protecting the dufus than the nation.
  • Jul 29, 2019, 05:49 AM
    jlisenbe
    My reference was not to the report. My reference was to Mueller himself.

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    Laughable that you make grifters and opportunist like Page, and Stone some kind of heroes in the process,
    You are living in your fantasy world again. I never mentioned any of those people.

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    but now that the FIRST shoe has fallen, more may yet fall too
    If any shoe has fallen, it is a shoe for a newborn. Good luck with that. The absolute hatred of Trump is reaching ever greater heights.
  • Jul 29, 2019, 09:24 AM
    talaniman
    Denial, and derision is the typical MO for you, but you aren't the only poster here so please learn how to duck, and save yourself such a mistake of getting in the way of things aimed at others. Meanwhile the dufus seeks to replace DNI Coates with his handpicked sycophant who like other repubs, chose to attack Mueller instead of inquire about the Russian cyber attack like everyone has acknowledged with facts and evidence including a bi partisan senate committee.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters...-action-696550

    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...know-and-when/
  • Jul 29, 2019, 07:47 PM
    Athos
    Coates' replacement Repub Ratcliffe has zero intelligence experience. Among his more bizarre comments there is included this about the Mueller Report, "(The Report) was not authorized to be written". No one knows what the HADES he's talking about.

    One of Trump's reptiles from the Trump swamp, Ratcliffe is more of the same. He is also the nitwit who referred to the Democratic members of the committee as "socialists". He's prone to foot-in-mouth disease so Bone-Spur Donald will probably try to hide him.
  • Jul 29, 2019, 09:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Coates' replacement Repub Ratcliffe has zero intelligence experience. Among his more bizarre comments there is included this about the Mueller Report, "(The Report) was not authorized to be written". No one knows what the HADES he's talking about.

    One of Trump's reptiles from the Trump swamp, Ratcliffe is more of the same. He is also the nitwit who referred to the Democratic members of the committee as "socialists". He's prone to foot-in-mouth disease so Bone-Spur Donald will probably try to hide him.

    And just because you don't agree he is a nitwit. From my persepective, it seems the Demonrats think everyone who doesn't agree with them is a nitwit, however, the opposite may be true it may just be a chorus of nitwits agreeing with each other
  • Jul 30, 2019, 04:07 AM
    jlisenbe
    It was just more of the well-reasoned analysis from the folks who believe in tolerance and civility. The way some of these posts virtually drip with hatred and anger is really quite a sight to see.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 07:57 AM
    talaniman
    Would you be dripping with anger if you were fed a steady dose of lies, deceit, and incompetence? Think about what was said this morning. The dufus gives money to farmers as a subsidy that he gets from the tariffs he puts on China. Who makes money from all that technology that was sold to Saudi Arabia and the senate could not stop it? A dufus sycophant donor is the answer.

    Of course you tolerate the lies and don't get angry, because you probably don't know these things are going on. Maybe you should question what YOU tolerate from this lying, cheating dufus before you criticize what others don't, JL.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 08:00 AM
    tomder55
    When I see the Dems howling at the moon then I know it was probably a good appointment.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 08:05 AM
    talaniman
    If you mean one of our Texas congress persons like Ratcliff then maybe you should at least google his qualifications for such an important appointment. Maybe there is a good reason to howl about the people the dufus nominates.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 10:58 AM
    jlisenbe
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    Would you be dripping with anger if you were fed a steady dose of lies, deceit, and incompetence?
    I don't know of any greater example of lying and deceit in recent memory than the lying and deceit that went on with Obama and Benghazi. I'll bet you did not respond to that in any manner at all and certainly not even close to what you say about Trump.

    And as to incompetence, you voted for absolutely the most incompetent candidate for pres of my lifetime in HC.

    Now you see how it works? It is very easy to make political observations without engaging in low-class name calling and hateful comments.

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    Of course you tolerate the lies and don't get angry, because you probably don't know these things are going on. Maybe you should question what YOU tolerate from this lying, cheating dufus before you criticize what others don't, JL.
    And maybe you should realize a simple fact. That knife cuts both ways.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 12:05 PM
    talaniman
    You can't take part of a quote ignore the rest and try to scold me with it. Then run your own half truths and skewed version.

    "Would you be dripping with anger if you were fed a steady dose of lies, deceit, and incompetence? Think about what was said this morning. The dufus gives money to farmers as a subsidy that he gets from the tariffs he puts on China. Who makes money from all that technology that was sold to Saudi Arabia and the senate could not stop it? A dufus sycophant donor is the answer."

    My responses are in the archives of this forum from when it was a Current Event. I wasn't making an observation, just questioning his REAL TIME lies...yet again.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 02:36 PM
    Athos
    Ratcliffe exposed as the source of the infamous FBI "Secret Society" hoax!

    This nitwit is the clown Trump wants to head the intelligence efforts of the US.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You just can't make this stuff up!
  • Jul 30, 2019, 03:12 PM
    jlisenbe
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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
    Starting a little over two years ago. Silent before then when all kinds of lying was going on.

    TDS.

    I don't like the guy. I'd rather have someone else, but I hope I can have some sort of consistency in the kind of ethics I expect from a pres. He's done nothing, in my view, that has risen to the level of HC and her amateur email server being used for national security transmissions, and then being professionally wiped clean along with her dozen or so cell phones being destroyed by hammer blows.
  • Jul 30, 2019, 04:05 PM
    tomder55
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    her amateur email server being used for national security transmissions,

    and that wasn't the real reason for the server. She did it so she could conduct the Clintoon Foundation pay for play and play for access scheme under the radar.

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