Ask Me Help Desk - Unaffordable Health Care Act

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Originally Posted by talaniman

You have had your fight, a noble, principled one, But you lose this round that's obvious. Have heart, as I know you guys will pick another fight down the road.

I don't give a damn about any fight, I liked my insurance, I can't afford huge deductibles and premiums, I hate fewer choices but the emperor had to come along and screw that all up. Leave us the hell alone and mind your own business for a change instead of screwing life up for hard working responsible people. Got it? That's what we're pi$$ed about, not that you want health care for all - you didn't have to screw it all up and jack with our lives in the process.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I don't give a damn about any fight, I liked my insurance, I can't afford huge deductibles and premiums

Have you been told there will be changes? Mine hasn't changed. My private-pay son's hasn't changed.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Have you been told there will be changes? Mine hasn't changed. My private-pay son's hasn't changed.

Is that all you got out of my response?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Is that all you got out of my response?

You won't answer my question?

Hello again,

I HAVE the answer.. It MAY be the disaster you wingers proclaim it to be, but like I said, you're the same people who told me about the death panels, and that wasn't true. So, you have NO credibility on the issue.

So, I'm a supporter of Obamacare. But, I'm not an idiot. If it PROVES to be the disaster you've said it is, then I'll help repeal it. So will every reasonable American..

So, relax. Let things take place, and when tal and me get pissed off at it, we'll tell you it's time. It's EASY, huh? No more heartache. Everybody wins.

excon

Hello again,

Uhhhh, one more thing.. If it fails, it MUST be remembered that it was a REPUBLICAN plan, after all.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

I HAVE the answer.. It MAY be the disaster you wingers proclaim it to be, but like I said, you're the same people who told me about the death panels, and that wasn't true. So, you have NO credibility on the issue.

So, I'm a supporter of Obamacare. But, I'm not an idiot. If it PROVES to be the disaster you've said it is, then I'll help repeal it. So will every reasonable American..

So, relax. Let things take place, and when tal and me get pissed off at it, we'll tell you it's time. It's EASY, huh? No more heartache. Everybody wins.

excon

This is not about my credibility, story after story about the broken promises, higher costs, lowered choices and the all-out disaster - even from former admin officials - and you guys blow it off. If you won't listen to real people being affected and supporters of the law's criticisms who will you listen to?

I repeat, this isn't just picking a fight to me, you're messing with my life and I rightfully resent that.

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I don't give a damn about any fight, I liked my insurance, I can't afford huge deductibles and premiums, I hate fewer choices but the emperor had to come along and screw that all up. Leave us the hell alone and mind your own business for a change instead of screwing life up for hard working responsible people. Got it? That's what we're pi$$ed about, not that you want health care for all - you didn't have to screw it all up and jack with our lives in the process.

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you're messing with my life

How so?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

How so?

Can't you read, I didn't mumble.

You just don't make enough money, work harder.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You just don't make enough money, work harder.

Let me come screw with your life and see how you like it.

Hello again, Steve:

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This is not about my credibility, story after story about the broken promises, higher costs, lowered choices and the all-out disaster

I agree. It's NOT about you.. The "you" I was referring to, is the euphemistic "you", that includes ALL the writers, of ALL the stories, about ALL the broken promises, and yada yada yada.

You lost this battle. There's only ONE way now. Let it fail on its own accord...

BUT, and there's always a but... What I REALLY think you're afraid of, is that it'll WORK, and WORK REAL GOOD.

excon

You got stories of unhappy people that are affected in their wallets for the time being. I get that, but we got stories of real people whose chance at life is better.

My position is to try and give more people a chance at a real life through HEALTH, and we can worry about the money later. Your tales of sticker shock, broken promises, and politics, pales greatly when a child with a brain tumor gets a chance at life.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:
I agree. It's NOT about you.. The "you" I was referring to, is the euphemistic "you", that includes ALL the writers, of ALL the stories, about ALL the broken promises, and yada yada yada.

You lost this battle. There's only ONE way now. Let it fail on its own accord...

BUT, and there's always a but... What I REALLY think you're afraid of, is that it'll WORK, and WORK REAL GOOD.

excon

Was I not plain enough twice?

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I don't give a damn about any fight, I liked my insurance, I can't afford huge deductibles and premiums, I hate fewer choices but the emperor had to come along and screw that all up. Leave us the hell alone and mind your own business for a change instead of screwing life up for hard working responsible people. Got it? That's what we're pi$$ed about, not that you want health care for all - you didn't have to screw it all up and jack with our lives in the process.

That's always been my bottom line argument, stop messing with my life. You guys used to always complain about government intrusion into our lives and this regime has been more intrusive than anyone, and unlike you I don't see any common sense in implementing bad programs and hoping for the best, that's just asinine.

Remember, the name of this disaster is the "Affordable" Care Act and the emperor promised over and over not to worry, we would still have our insurance and doctors and cheaper care. That's BS and you know it. Even your neighbors know it.

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But don't believe me.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

You got stories of unhappy people that are affected in their wallets for the time being. I get that, but we got stories of real people whose chance at life is better.

My position is to try and give more people a chance at a real life through HEALTH, and we can worry about the money later. Your tales of sticker shock, broken promises, and politics, pales greatly when a child with a brain tumor gets a chance at life.

Dude, you're a broken record. We all want people to have care, but why are you screwing it up for the rest of us? I admire the intent, but this is pathetic.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Dude, you're a broken record. We all want people to have care, but why are you screwing it up for the rest of us? I admire the intent, but this is pathetic.

All of you won't be screwed but many will have to make adjustments, but they benefit more than they harm.

You over state the 'rest of us" and conflate it to "ALL of us" which is an inaccurate false assumption. What you regret is you have to pay more because the price of EVERY damn thing is going up, from toilet paper to health care, and that's reality.

There are no instant results or quick fixes, just progress whether you see it, or feel it.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

All of you won't be screwed but many will have to make adjustments, but they benefit more than they harm.

You over state the 'rest of us" and conflate it to "ALL of us" which is an inaccurate false assumption. What you regret is you have to pay more because the price of EVERY damn thing is going up, from toilet paper to health care, and that's reality.

There are no instant results or quick fixes, just progress whether you see it, or feel it.

Doubling someone's expenses is an "adjustment" like the Obamacare website disaster is a "glitch." How would you like it if I forced you to spend several hundred dollars a month more?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

How would you like it if I forced you to spend several hundred dollars a month more?

You still haven't answered my question. Have YOUR health insurance premiums gone up?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

You still haven't answered my question. Have YOUR health insurance premiums gone up?

And you haven't answered mine, is that all you got out of my response?

I still don't know what this year will bring, but if it's like last year our deductibles will again double and the premiums will increase. We've already been feeling the effects of Obamacare for quite some time now, and the examples of sticker shock and broken promises continue to grow. I can't afford any more "affordable" health care.

Hello again, Steve:

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Remember, the name of this disaster is the "Affordable" Care Act

Maybe it doesn't mean YOU.. Maybe it means the people who COULDN'T afford it before.

excon