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Syria and Russia may be agreeing to a plan to turn over its gas stockpile to be destroyed.
Syrian welcomes Russian offer to keep chemical weapons
Not that I trust Assad or Putin. I still think Congress should authorize a military strike. Just in case we need a credible threat to hold over them and prevent a stall tactic.
It's all about you isn't it, not satisfied with getting a result you have to say my way or the highway after all we have some old tomahawks we want to set off
Its about getting chemical weapons out of the hands of a lying loony madman. Sorry if you hate Americans/Muslims/Asians, blah, blah, so much that the only acceptable outcome is our come up pence.
I am sure you will get over it... or not. Sit safely in your Island paradise, and cry some more about how the NEW people are ruining the country. But we all have our growing pains to contend with.
No You don't get it, even BO says its an acceptable outcome, so It isn't me who is warmongering Tal, but you, and you are out of step with your leader. We would all like the war in Syria to stop but realistically it isn't going to happen the best we can hope for is to quarantine the really nasty stuff
Yes we get the backwash of your wars, tramatised people arriving on our doorstep. If you are so concerned about them take them in, all 42 Million of them. You want others to take responsibility for your mess, correction messes, and yet you want to make this one worse. We don't have the economic resourses to take large numbers of these people and the numbers have been increasing. Maybe you can absorb millions of illegal arrivals in your pseudo slave system, but we can't absorb these increasing numbers and we have recognised it by diverting international aid to fix some local issues after all why should we give a bigger percentage of our income than you do
We have a right to hang out the full sign and be choosy about the thousands we settle here each year. Yes the imports are ruining our country we only have to look at the names of the offenders to see what is happening. We see our own indigenous involved in nuiance offences and the serious offenders come from outside our society. We had an Afghan refugee knife another the other day, way to go in your new country. Middle East gangs deal drugs and shoot up their enemies ah la Lebanon, and smuggle their own kind on leaking boats
1st step would be to admit he has them... which he won't because they are strategic weapons .Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I wish I could say this is total nonsense . But I heard former General Wesley Clark spew similar pablum on the talk show circuit last week. He essentially said that we have to act because the use of cw can't be tolerated in "our world ... the world we created after WWII". Clark was a dangerous person when he was in the Army . He almost single handidy started at war with Russia in the Balkans . He was the commander at Ft Hood when troops from the base were deployed to take down the Branch Davidians.Quote:
I know because the US whatever the colour of its president must assume the white man's burden, and this is all it is, try to civilise the natives by uncivilised actions.
The good news is that he is the only talking head saying such idiocy .
I don't think there is any doubt he has them but he says he hasn't used them which is a horse of a different colour. Yes their possession is strategic, for example; it prevents certain large nations from making unwanted incursionsQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Tom you know I don't talk nonsense, drivel maybe but not nonsense. There is no reason for your nation to involve itsself in Syria. It hasn't attacked your allies and just maybe some of your enemies will exhaust themselves and forget to fight you while they play at a proxy war.
The nervious nellies in Israel would like you to get involved so they don't feel so alone but they can take comfort that an unlikely ally is bottling up Hamas in Gaza.
Meanwhile it is convenient for BO to have your Congress focus on external matters and take their mind of various internal issues
I guess you haven't heard about the refugee camps that are littering the region.Quote:
Yes we get the backwash of your wars, tramatised people arriving on our doorstep.
I found it very amusing that right after he told his big whopper the Russians made their proposal. They don't believe him either. Heard Manchin say last night that 45 days to comply with giving up his gas, and sign on to the no gas treaty, or bombs away.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
If you look close enough they have Russian serial numbers on the shells.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
What cracks me up is that Kerry's throw away line to a reporter's question will be the basis for defusing this (maybe) . By the end of the week ,even though the Russians have taken the lead ,the emperor will have made the idea his own.. no doubt another Nobel Peace Prize is in the offing .
Hello again,
Can you believe it? Obama WON the war in Syria WITHOUT firing a shot. Syria is giving up its WMD's.
excon
Well maybe, but it was Kerry you can thank for the idea although he doesn't want to own it
They're buying time.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I don't think this was right off the top of his head, its was probably discussed but dismissed many times already as impossible given the Russians stance through out of this. Oil for weapons is an old game for them.
I don't dismiss totally Syria's ability to retalliate or escalate after an attack, but I do have confidence that her allies will think about further escalation that leaves their butts dangling in the wind.
No way does Russia want to be exposed either, and degrading the air defense of Syria does just that. Foreign service news is saying that defections from Assad is highly likely, and he knows it.
Hello again, Steve:
So, they can ship the WMD's to Iraq?? Isn't that where they came from??Quote:
They're buying time.
Bwa, ha ha ha.
Excon
I assure you that IF the US attacks their air defenses ,then the Russian toys will be exposed for what they are .Quote:
No way does Russia want to be exposed either, and degrading the air defense of Syria does just that.
So they can move them into human shield areas .Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again,
Dudes... The war is over.. We WON!
excon
And it's running out faster than they know and I just heard that Syria has agreed to the Russian plan so the UN will probably get a plan/procedure to implement it soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What war?. so now there is total peace and calm.. But then except for artillery... Syria was a safer place than Chicago DURING the war.
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