You sound just like Nancy "we have to pass it before we know what's in it" Pelosi, and as a businessman I would think you know that's a monumentally stupid position to support.
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You sound just like Nancy "we have to pass it before we know what's in it" Pelosi, and as a businessman I would think you know that's a monumentally stupid position to support.
And like most conservatives your views comes from an agenda that puts your profits over your people that work hard to make you rich. Glad you finally brought out the fact that your poor rich guy has many resources to guide him. And maybe fight first and think later has not helped him. I mean dividing his 8 stores into separate companies to AVOID the law didn't help him, and he says it will cost him 60 grand.
My initial look into the structure of his franchise is to expand his coverage and increase his core of full time employees and take a tax credit for his reinvetment. Its possible to mitigate his 60 grand "loss of profit" by almost 40% before taxes. He knows that and so should his lawyers, and accountants.
It should also be pointed out while he hollers, his corporate owners of his chain have not. Like the pizza guy who was outraged and threatened to raise the price of his pies 14 cents. So how much does he raise his gourmet hamburgers?
He has options dude beyond what he is hollering about, and the help and resources to get her done. Most rich guys do.
Not surprised conservatives see the rich guy side, and ignore the working class side.
Wait until you find out that you can get an exemption from the penalty (oops I mean tax ) if you claim to be a smoker .
Smoking out a major flaw in Obamacare | NJ.com
Tal has already forgotten again that I AM the working class side.
Nice job Schmucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Now we get to pay for transformer operations
In shift, Medicare would pay for sex-change operations | WashingtonExaminer.com
Transformer do we have extra-terrestial life over there? I thik you mean transsexual
Hello again, Steve:
OMG! That's got to be a violation of my rights somehow... I'm sure you'll find it, Steve. It's probably against YOUR religious freedom rights.. In fact, I'm SURE it is... Somehow...Quote:
now we get to pay for transformer operations
Excon
I have no idea what you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Transexual sex change operation... transformer... what's the difference ?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'm not Steve... But yes ,do you think every elective procedure should be paid for by someone else ?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello tom/Steve:
Some would argue that it's NOT elective at all. I'd be one of those.
excon
Dear excon:Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I agree, it's not elective. If your insides are screaming you are female, but you happen to have a teeny weenie, something is seriously wrong and needs to be corrected.
WG / Carol
>greenie<Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
So we should pay for a sex change for any guy who screams he's really a woman?
A man can't just scream he is a woman and get a sex change. He has to be diagnosed with a specific disorder by a certified clinician.
Sex reassignment surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Most surgeons require two letters of recommendation for sex reassignment surgery. At least one of these letters must be from a mental health professional experienced in diagnosing gender identity disorder, that has known the patient for over a year. Letters must state that sex reassignment surgery is the correct course of treatment for the patient.[13][14]
Funny how people think they are paying for other peoples stuff when we all pay our own premiums. The church has that idea badly.Quote:
A growing number of public and commercial health insurance plans in the United States now contain defined benefits covering sex reassignment-related procedures, usually including genital reconstruction surgery (MTF and FTM), chest reconstruction (FTM), breast augmentation (MTF), and hysterectomy (FTM).[3] In June 2008, the American Medical Association House of Delegates declared that discrimination,[4] stating that the denial to patients with Gender Identity Disorder of otherwise covered benefits represents discrimination, and that the AMA supports "public and private health insurance coverage for treatment for gender identity disorder as recommended by the patient's physician." Other organizations have issued similar statements, including WPATH,[5] the American Psychological Association,[6] and the National Association of Social Workers.[7]
Until Obamacare it was considered an experimental procedure not covered . I guess we should cover silicon implants for women with self esteem issues over itty bitties ;or for one of them suction devises for men who don't like the size of their weiner . Maybe we should pay for liposuction and collagen injections too. After all ;it's a psychological booster .
You consider incorrect gender assignment a self-esteem issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
We pay for nothing, insurance companies pay for covered procedure through their policy. Insurance companies base premiums on the coverage you BUY!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That's the business model for insurance, you know the risk/gamble thing. It was decide in JUNE 2008, BEFORE Obamacare, by doctors AND insurance companies to cover these procedures and those are facts.
No laws, no votes where needed to make this a medical issue and NOT elective surgery.
Incorrect gender assignment.. guess God made a mistake.
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