Only if you promise to get nothing done.

What's scary is the government having the FINAL word on your right to live. Don't tell me the insurance company has that power... no it doesn't... If I was denied care from them ,I'd seek other options. With Obamacare ,I'd probably be forced to look overseas .

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. With Obamacare ,I'd probably be forced to look overseas .

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Perhaps that's the point, your bloated medical system has become too expensive,

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what's scary is the government having the FINAL word on your right to live. Don't tell me the insurance company has that power ...no it doesn't .... If I was denied care from them ,I'd seek other options. With Obamacare ,I'd probably be forced to look overseas .

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My insurance company doesn't say I can't have it, but just that they won't pay for it. Same will be with Obamacare.

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I think you missed the point of the first column. I'm guessing because you didn't actually read it.

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I missed it as well. Could you tells us in your own words.

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I missed it as well. Could you tells us in your own words.

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Did you read the column?

Government bureaucrats should not be making the health decisions that impact millions of Americans. End of story... or maybe you are happy with the government panel (the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force... a panel that reviews and makes recommendations for preventive services) that decided that women in their 40s should not have annual mammograms and older women should reduce the use of this screening device. That was clearly, and only, a cost cutting decision. What if it costs a couple more women's lives in the process ?The odds favored their decision because there were a few false positives that resulted in follow up testing .

What is this rumor I hear that Rhambo wants to dump Chi-town employees onto the state exchange to save the city the cost of the municipal union's over priced benefits ?

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Nor should insurance companies.

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Did you read the column?

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I did. The point of the article seemed to be the unattractiveness of serving on the panel. Several reasons seemed to be outlined. Namely, low pay for qualifications. Suitably qualified people are more likely to go for other higher pay jobs. There was also the problem of the job being too political.

Unless you are referring to the social stigma attached to the job.

" The board has drawn heavy criticism since it became part of the health-care law, with detractors drawing fire from the Obama administration and the the act's other supporters for referring to the board as a "death panel" that would ration seniors' care"

The journalist responsible has come up with a pretty clumsy sentence in this instance.

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I did. The point of the article seemed to be the unattractiveness of serving on the panel. Several reasons seemed to be outlined. Namely, low pay for qualifications. Suitably qualified people are more likely to go for other higher pay jobs. There was also the problem of the job being too political.

Unless you are referring to the social stigma attached to the job.

" The board has drawn heavy criticism since it became part of the health-care law, with detractors drawing fire from the Obama administration and the the act's other supporters for referring to the board as a "death panel" that would ration seniors' care"

The journalist responsible has come up with a pretty clumsy sentence in this instance.

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I would only add that settling for second best is troubling for such a critical role. Who could have seen that coming?

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perhaps that's the point, your bloated medical system has become too expensive,

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And in true lib fashion ;they are tripling the costs and destroying the best health care system in the world .

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and in true lib fashion ;they are tripling the costs and destroying the best health care system in the world .

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The best health care system in the world for those who can afford it.

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The best health care system in the world for those who can afford it.

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When they specifically tax medical devices to pay for it that says a lot.

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When they specifically tax medical devices to pay for it that says a lot.

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Are we talking about the 'previous system' or the system in transition?

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The best health care system in the world for those who can afford it.

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And there was already a system in place for those who couldn't . What the Dems want is for our system to devolve to the lowest common denominator (except for Congress and the Prez. They are exempt) .

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and there was already a system in place for those who couldn't . What the Dems want is for our system to devolve to the lowest common denominator (except for Congress and the Prez. They are exempt) .

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Do you mean these people?

ama-assn.org/amednews/2008/07/21/gvl10721.html

Tom means all those other people, you know; the freeloaders he doesn't want to pay for. Tom hasn't quite got the concept of insurance being a pool

Had trouble with the American Medical Association link, but I think I fixed it up. Makes interesting reading.

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Had trouble with the American Medical Association link, but I think I fixed it up. Makes interesting reading.

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I think all that demonstrates is the system is flawed, broken even, and of course it will be while ever insurers can pick the benefits they provide

The report was also in 2008 before all this new stuff got started but it shows the system was broken already.