A fetus is not a baby. Go back to science class or grow a uterus. Your argument is invalid.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Magpie95 please ... Since Roe v Wade there have been over 50 million babies murdered .

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No there haven't. Stop lying dude.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

No there haven't. Stop lying dude.

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Stop calling people liars.

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Number of abortions in United States

According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), since 1973, roughly 50 million legal induced abortions have been performed in the United States.[37] World wide, there have been over 1,260,000,000 abortions performed.

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If they are murders who has been criminally procecuted?

Look at all that money we saved on welfare! Woohoo!

When a lady says NO! She means NO! Now back off you right wing socialist chauvinistic, name calling, bad mouthing, chauvinistic PIGS!

So now we're conservative socialists?

Fun fact, besides being married to one and having a daughter, did you know that the overwhelming majority of my closest friends are women? That would be tough if I were as evil as you guys say I am.

Who said you were evil? But to your point, many women make bad choices in partners. Simply being married and having a child does not qualify you as good or evil, if things were even that black and white. However, that is getting off topic.

I, for one, am actually a libertarian. (Economically conservative and socially liberal) And a fellow Texan!. if labels are needed. Howdy!

I bet you act nicer around them too. I do, the females around me hate to be told what to do about anything, let alone what to do with their bodies.

Bet you already knew that.

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Originally Posted by Magpie95

Who said you were evil? But to your point, many women make bad choices in partners. Simply being married and having a child does not qualify you as good or evil, if things were even that black and white. However, that is getting off topic.

I, for one, am actually a libertarian. (Economically conservative and socially liberal) And a fellow Texan! ...if labels are needed. Howdy!

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Howdy!

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Originally Posted by talaniman

I bet you act nicer around them too.

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Depends on who it is, I work mostly with women so they tend to get rather uninhibited around me. Prim and proper goes out the window. They let out a good ol' belch I'll give 'em a high five.

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I do, the females around me hate to be told what to do about anything, let alone what to do with their bodies.

Bet you already knew that.

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Duh.

OK, so I got to let go of Capuano, who's been struggling or Billingsley who hasn't - so Sabathia can join my rotation and boost my pitching numbers. Which one is going to do better down the stretch?

Cliff Lee would be a better choice to drop.

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Originally Posted by Magpie95

A fetus is not a baby. Go back to science class or grow a uterus. Your arguement is invalid.

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At what point is that 'fetus' a living human (we already know it is alive quite early in the process)?

I'll ask you this because no one answered this earlier when I asked... are there any restrictions you would put on abortions?. late term ? Murder immediately prior to delivery ? And if you would put restrictions on abortions then why don't those restrictions violate the women's right to control her body ? Do you really think this use of abortion as contraception is moral ?

Rich women with insurance can get a D&C as soon as they suspect a pregnancy. Why can't poor women be so educated, and accommodated?

D&C (Dilation and Curettage) Procedure: Surgery and Recovery

Free contraceptives is a moral thing to do.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

At what point is that 'fetus' a living human (we already know it is alive quite early in the process)?

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The sperm and egg were alive. Maybe potential human being would be more accurate?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

At what point is that 'fetus' a living human (we already know it is alive quite early in the process)?

I'll ask you this because no one answered this earlier when I asked ... are there any restrictions you would put on abortions ? ...late term ? murder immediately prior to delivery ? And if you would put restrictions on abortions then why don't those restrictions violate the women's right to control her body ? Do you really think this use of abortion as contraception is moral ?

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First, the word murder is curious. My personal view is that a woman ought know that she is not capable or doesn't desire to be a mother long before her late term. Do I judge those who have? No. Simply because I don't know the circumstances. For example, did she just change her mind or did her health become in danger? It's a slipper slope when you start trying to define when life begins and when its just a clump of cells dividing with the "potential" of being a person. Most the people I know that have had them, it was a deeply difficult decision and not something they entered into lightly. They did not use it as a birth control. However, people will have sex.. no matter what. To bring a child in the world they no one is either mature enough of financially prepared to take care of is an abuse of its own. Because fathers can bail at will, yes, I think a woman should be able to make this choice. I don't think abortion is immoral at all, so I can't answer your last question. Are the clump of cells in a dish at a fertility clinic a person? Perhaps we should assign them a social security number.

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First, the word murder is curious. My personal view is that a woman ought know that she is not capable or doesn't desire to be a mother long before her late term. Do I judge those who have? No. Simply because I don't know the circumstances. For example, did she just change her mind or did her health become in danger? Its a slipper slope when you start trying to define when life begins and when its just a clump of cells dividing with the "potential" of being a person. Most the people I know that have had them, it was a deeply difficult decision and not something they entered into lightly. They did not use it as a birth control. However, people will have sex..no matter what. To bring a child in the world they no one is either mature enough of financially prepared to take care of is an abuse of its own. Because fathers can bail at will, yes, I think a woman should be able to make this choice. I don't think abortion is immoral at all, so I can't answer your last question. Are the clump of cells in a dish at a fertility clinic a person? Perhaps we should assign them a social security number.

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Im a bit at a loss here. You don't seem very solid in your position regarding abortion. On the one hand you seem to believe that a late term abortion is OK because they baby is not a living being Then you say you can't judge because of circumstance.

Which is it? Is abortion OK anytime prebirth or not?

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Im a bit at a loss here. You dont seem very solid in your position regaurding abortion. On the one hand you seem to believe that a late term abortion is ok because they baby is not a living being Then you say you can't judge because of circumstance.

Which is it? Is abortion ok anytime prebirth or not? .

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Allow me to clarify. I think abortion should be legal at any time. Aren't they all. Prebirth? I was merely explaining why I have that stance. Ultimately, its her body.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

The sperm and egg were alive. Maybe potential human being would be more accurate?

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Excellent point, therefore, masturbation is murder too! Start locking up those young boys! Lol!

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Excellent point, therefore, masterbation is murder too! Start locking up those young boys! Lol!!

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OMG! I wonder if Rep. Todd Akin has realized this yet.