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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

So, states rights have NO place in your right wing Tea Party platform?? I figured. You want people to be free. You just want 'em to be free to do what YOU WANT 'EM TO DO. I understand.

excon

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You mean like the Civil rights act shouldn't be imposed on the public... etc? Or just those things you don't agree with?

How about OBAMAcare as the latest gov intrusion?

Fact is the Federal government trumps states rights in many areas... and you can thank the Democrat party for expanding where they can meddle. The Democrat party is the party of big brother... And Obama is the current ringleader for the gov to have their nose in everything you do..

But a hamburger and a toy is off limits?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

But a hamburger and a toy is off limits?

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Unless the kid wants to marry the cow... and bang the toy, in school in the auditorium in front of the student body and call it art.. Then he will have supporters to his cause in SF.

By the way, next up is advertising. No more Cap'n Crunch, Tony the Tiger, Ronald McDonald, Chuck E. Cheese or Keebler Elves.

I see choice is still expanding in the liberal world.

The deal with the Obots is that they have a hands off policy when it comes to illicit drugs... but try selling illicit foods like... mmmm... milk... then watch out!
Feds sting Amish farmer selling raw milk locally - Washington Times

Raw milk -- why buy it when the chances of also buying e. coli, listeria, and staph are possible. Low-temp vat pasteurization is cheap enough that any farmer can do that.

Perhaps it's an Amish cultural thingy??

It used to be an immigrant German farmer thingy, but my ancestors didn't sell milk to anyone. Only the family drank it. I've drunk raw milk still warm from the cow, but my grandfather took exceeding care with washing the cows' udders and the collection buckets and large vats he poured the milk into. The milk was immediately refrigerated unless some of it was used for breakfast or supper. Do the Amish take such good care? Will you bet your digestive health on that?

The Amish can do what they want with their unpasteurized milk. I'm surprised such a gentle people are so greedy that they are selling it.

Trust me... he wasn't making a living selling it. The Feds sent an agent to fill up a plastic jug . The agent gave him $2.00 for it.

One could ask what is the greater risk . A cup of raw milk fresh from the farm ;or some of the processed foods mass produced even under the most stringent Federal Guidelines ?
Pasturization does a good job eliminating contaminents that's true... then to make it nutritious to replace the nutrients lost in the processing , they vitamin fortify the end product.

There are no other Amish selling raw milk to the public?

What's the harm? Have you ever had an infection caused by e. coli or listeria or staph? I have. I wouldn't want to wish it on my worse enemy.

I grew up on unpasteurized, un homogenized whole milk. From the dairy we got refilled in 1/2 gallon glass jugs we took every week. Right up until they outlawed it and the dairy shut down as a result.

While I had the standard childhood diseases at the time... I actually have not had the flu but twice in the last 40 years... and I'm 49. In fact I made it through Jr and Sr High school without being sick at all.

Shaking it up was a PITA... but it tasted a LOT better than anything in a paper or plastic carton.


Yeah there was always a possibility of some of those... but I never knew anyone that actually had it... and most of my friends, family and neighbors drank the same stuff.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

I grew up on unpasteurized, un homogenized whole milk. from the dairy we got refilled in 1/2 gallon glass jugs we took every week. Right up until they outlawed it and the dairy shut down as a result.

While I had the standard childhood diseases at the time....I actually have not had the flu but twice in the last 40 years...and I'm 49. In fact I made it through Jr and Sr Highschool without being sick at all.

Shaking it up was a PITA.... but it tasted a LOT better than anything in a paper or plastic carton.

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I agree -- nothing better. I've got nearly 20 years on you, so remember it even better than you do. We never got intestinal upsets from raw milk, but then the dairy farmers were very, very careful and we knew them well. I wouldn't trust farmers today, unless I knew them personally.

(We didn't shake -- we skimmed the cream off the top for pie, etc.)

Hello again:

Didja see what the nanny state is doing now?? They're actually trying to protect your children from getting cancer. How dare them?

The rules, which go into effect in a year, will also ban sunscreen manufacturers from claiming their products are waterproof or sweatproof because such claims are false. Instead, they will be allowed to claim in minutes the amount of time in which the product is water resistant, depending upon test results.

And only sunscreens that have a sun protection factor, or SPF, of 15 or higher will be allowed to maintain that they help prevent sunburn and reduce the risks of skin cancer and early skin aging.

Can you believe the balls of this government??

excon

Yeah ,I heard they are going to lose the numerical rating and switch to color coding .
Next they will be making sunshine illegal.

As it is there are people who need Vit D supplementation because they douse that stuff all over themselves as if it were marinate.

The chemicals in sunscreen could very well be more harmful to you than the harmful effects of sun rays.(see oxybenzone
PABA and Oxybenzone. What are PABA / Oxybenzone and why are they dangerous. )
As you know ,I favor government regulation of chemicals.

Chemicals, OK. Vegetables, no.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Chemicals, OK. Vegetables, no.

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Hello again, Steve:

Marijahoochie is a vegetable...

excon

I thought it was an herb.

Hello again, Steve:

It grows. It's green. It's vitamin packed. Herb is the name of my barber.

excon

Have you seen the timeline on this monograph ? The FDA began considering label changes in 1978 , published them in 1999, and waited for now for the major players in the industry to adjust their labelling . It will be the small manufacture /label brands that will bear the brunt of this . Again ,government regulation will weed out the small fry and consolidate the industry for a few major players .