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No it isn't, you are simply troubled what the answer would show so you skirt the issue entirely.

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Wrong, it's irrelevant to the point, and since it's my point I know what the point is.

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I'm not talking about sweeping generalities of each party, I'm discussing this specific issue; can you do that too?

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Dude, you're the only one skirting the issue. tom already answered your distraction, "I'm sure they pay green fees and play too. any other irrelevent points ?" No further comment on that is necessary, it's irreleveant if Republicans play golf there because they aren't the ones preaching about droughts and climate change while causing droughts and running off to play golf in a desert that uses 17% of their supply to water the golf courses, but I believe I said that already. Your issue is answered, can you deal with the issue we're discussing or not?

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Oh, and did you notice that while president climate change was lying about the unnecessary man-made drought in the Central California Valley that he golfed at some pretty exclusive water-guzzling golf courses while hanging with his rich buddies? Nah, you didn't.

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There is no point to this article.

There are one hundred and twenty something golf courses in the area that would use just as much water as the two exclusive courses.

Would it be satisfactory if he played on one of the larger courses in the area that probably uses more water?

The article says that it hasn't provided any water figures for any golf course in the area.

the point tutty is to demonstrate how biased speech is and how desperate he is to make a point. He has forgotten to be fair and realise that his republican buddies both play golf and also waste water drenching their lawns, so golf now becomes the dog whistle for republican waste

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Actually I was discussing tom's point. Not sure how you got involved other than to try and change the subject.

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the point tutty is to demonstrate how biased speech is and how desperate he is to make a point. He has forgotten to be fair and realise that his republican buddies both play golf and also waste water drenching their lawns, so golf now becomes the dog whistle for republican waste

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I believe I acknowledged that point, which is still just as irrelevant.

If it makes you happy I don't care where Obama plays golf either, but I DO care that he's lying through his teeth about the drought in the Central California Valley and if it were me making such a big deal about it, I'd be careful about the optics of playing at a water guzzling desert course right after making the speech. Apparently that disconnect doesn't bother the true believers, which speaks volumes about their environmental "concerns."

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The article says that it hasn't provided any water figures for any golf course in the area.

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I'd be careful about the optics of playing at a water guzzling desert course right after making the speech.

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Totally irrelevant.

Only NK could attempt to make the argument that the explanation of my point is irrelevant to my point, lol!

My god, what a child, is this what most republicans are like?

Yes, most of us are intelligent people who know astrology is not scientific.

As an intelligent person I abandoned astrology long ago, but as the statistics imply a third of you are not intelligent enough to understand astrology is not scientific. This supports your contention but doesn't explain why astrology should be considered scientific on any level unless it is somehow associated with astronomy. I have no doubt astrology might have given birth to astronomy in the dark ages before science rose above alchemy and wizardry but there is no excuse this side of the enlightenment for astrology to be considered science.

I expect this places a third of Republicans and half of democrats as unenlightened which says that at least three quarters of americans are unenlightened at least on the subject of science

Obama to Propose Shift in Wildfire Funding

Yes, I'm quite certain wildfire budgets have been more than strained, but this is typical of political 'solutions.' Embrace misguided environmental policy that creates huge problems (and ignored sound science) then have to spend billions more managing the problem you created. Or in the case of the California drought you created, double down and blame it on climate change.

Climate Prediction Center - Expert Assessments: United States Seasonal Drought Outlook Summary

We need a long term and short term fix for a regional problem whether you believe in climate change or not. Why would raising taxes on industries using resources that contribute to drought and fire conditions not be a viable option in funding better preventative measures?

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Climate Prediction Center - Expert Assessments: United States Seasonal Drought Outlook Summary

We need a long term and short term fix for a regional problem whether you believe in climate change or not. Why would raising taxes on industries using resources that contribute to drought and fire conditions not be a viable option in funding better preventative measures?

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Obviously you missed the entire point of the post.

Just trying to broaden the perspective a bit. Yours is too narrow and partisan. Even your link points out that policies and procedures and the rules have been inadequate since the 50s.

Showing me more climate 'predictions' doesn't broaden anyone's perspective. Of course there will be drought in California when you dismantle their irrigation system and dump all the water into the ocean to save bait.

The link I gave you is a climate prediction based on weather data, both short and long term prevailing conditions, updated weekly.

And I repeat, of course you're going to have more drought when you strip them of their water supply.

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I can only assume this asinine tweet by our ambassador to the UN is an aversion to reality.

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What the hell does that even mean in relation to a guy getting beheaded on video as a warning to the infidels by Muslim extremist KSM - who still has not been held accountable? Are we supposed to still believe that if we just talk to the terrorists everything will be Kum-ba-yah groovy? What?

I wonder if the Slimes is going to take her to account for that inane comment . What exactly did Pearl need to be accountable for .......being Jewish ? This idiot is the author of the 'Responsibility to Protect ' Doctrine that the emperor adopted and then abandoned . I guess she doesn't mean Jewish American journalists need to be protected .They obviously need to be held accountable.

Actually this is a diversion from reality, aka flat-out lie, which is what the regime and their media minions have come to now in regards to Obamacare, just lie.

According to Dingy Harry Reid, in regard to the Obamacare horror stories you've heard "all of them are untrue."

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Hey moron, the Kochs had nothing to do with f***ing up my health insurance, you did. And don't stand there on the Senate floor and call me a liar.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM



February 2014, Russia invades Ukraine.

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And while Biden and Obama are running in circles, Dems continue to attack Republicans over their own disaster, call Americans that were screwed by Obamacare liars, and play class warfare.

Good thing adults are running the show in DC.

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Obama's response to Putin...

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Hello again, Steve:

In the REAL world, where most of us live, there's nothing short of nuclear war, that we can do, to STOP him. AND, there are more reasons NOT to, anyway.

Here's just a few. First off, the Ukraine is in the Russian sphere of influence. And, like it or not, we have NO strategic interest in the Ukraine, other than our feel good idea about the people rising up against communism.. That alone is enough reason enough to STAY out.

But, tell me, kind Sir. Just what would YOU propose? Bomb 'em?

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Hello again, Steve:

In the REAL world, where most of us live, there's nothing short of nuclear war, that we can do, to STOP him. AND, there are more reasons NOT to, anyway.

Here's just a few. First off, the Ukraine is in the Russian sphere of influence. And, like it or not, we have NO strategic interest in the Ukraine, other than our feel good idea about the people rising up against communism.. That alone is enough reason enough to STAY out.

But, tell me, kind Sir. Just what would YOU propose? Bomb 'em?

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Send them a strongly worded letter?

Ex ,I agree .That is why the emperor should shut his yap about "consequences " . As far as I'm concerned ,since the Reagan-Gorbachev agreement, there have been 20 years of bad policy regarding the Russians going back to our not helping Yeltsin ;our carving out Kosovo out of Serbia (including the air bombing of every bridge over the Danube River ) . Not appreciating Russia's assistance in Afghanistan (even today ,the over flight of Russia is our primary means of resupply ),not recognizing our common shared interest in the fight against jihadistan (which may have prevented the Boston Marathon bombing )..... The emperor and Evita's failed 'reset ' policy .... NATOs and the EUs attempt to expand their sphere right up to Russia's doorstep . You are also right about raising people's expectations and then not following through .We did it in Iran ,we did it in Georgia ,and now there is a bipartisan effort to do it in Ukraine. Yes we also encouraged the Eastern block freedom fighters in the 1980s too .But we did not draw lines in the sand . A new Iron curtain is being drawn ,and unfortunately ,it's an iron curtain we and the EU is creating . We are as mistaken about the opposition as we were to the opposition to the Mubarak rule in Egypt ,and the opposition in Syria. Yes there are some 'democratic' groups ,but we are deluding ourselves if we think they are monolithic. There is one party in particular ;the Svboda party that is neo-Nazi .They are the ones that stormed the Parliament . There is one leader of the opposition that is worth considering ....Vitali Klitschko . But when Merkel ,speaking for the EU ,suggested their preference of him as the future leader of Ukraine, State Dept official Victoria Nuland was caught on tape saying 'F ..the EU ' .Another diplomatic success for the emperor . What exactly do we plan on doing now that the Russians are doing what they have to do..... secure their Black Sea Fleet based in the Crimea ? Boycott the G-8 meetings scheduled to be held in Sochi ? Will that be the consequences the emperor talks about ? That will just about put the final thread in the new Iron Curtain...driving the Russians eastward into even greater cooperation with China.

Well said, tom

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Would love to have seen whatever that was, let's see if this one works. CNN in coming to Dear Leader's rescue effectively calls Obama a wimp.

This poster and ones similar to it have been seen recently is Santa Monica. Obama Subpar Poster - YouTube

Subpar? Naaah. From Time's Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent Michael Crowley on capturing the moment.

Hello again, Steve:

When did you start hating America?

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Hello again,

I dunno WHY you support this dictator over your president, even though he's black, and even though he's a Democrat.. It used to be that at times like these, we ALL support the president... In the words of that great statesman, John McCain, "We're ALL Georgians now".

Do you WANT him to do this again???

It might be easier to support him if not for the "I'll have more flexibility after the election, Vlad" and a total weak response before running off to raise campaign cash and bash social conservatives. But calling me an America hater is beyond the pale, I'm not the one who questioned having any strategic interest in Ukraine while blowing off Putin's "uncontested arrival." Seems you're the one giving the dictator a pass, not me.

Today Sec State Kerry said that the emperor hopes that Putin will 'do the right thing ' because he risks losing that 'Olympics glow" . He told NBC that Russia is 'inviting opprobrium'. If you don't feel like looking it up ;it means 'condemnation' ,vilification ,denunciation ...in non-diplomat speak.

In other words, we're sending a strongly worded letter, playing marbles while Putin is playing chess, though "all options are on the table."

Almost forgot this piece of brilliance from Howard Fineman of Huffpo: