If Benghazi was a joke after four deaths ... what does that make Watergate?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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If Benghazi was a joke after four deaths ... what does that make Watergate?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So if Obama admits to arming jihadists/rebels and that was Stevens mission then you guys are cool?
He was in Libya... not a friendly country or stable country by any means. You trying to reduce the argument again so that it fits a very narrow rule that you've defined. He accepted the risks, just like those contractor deaths that you so easily dismissed.Quote:
Stevens was not in Benghazi on 9-11-12 doing any 'diplomatic ' mission.
not at all . It is horrible policy that was covered up so he could keep a false narrative about his foreign policy in place through the 2012 elections. But admitting his failed and secret policy to the American people would at least keep his promise of a transparent adm.
Yes, that is indeed the right-wing talking point that is repeated ad nauseum. Good little sheep...Quote:
It is horrible policy that was covered up so he could keep a false narrative about his foreign policy in place through the 2012 elections.
Why were we still in Benghazi ? Every other nation had bugged out because of the risks. Why did Evita refuse his requests for more security ?What was he doing in Benghazi on a day that were knew there was a heightened risk ? Why was he meeting a Turkish representative in Benghazi ,the site of a secret "mission " instead of Tripoli where the American Embassy was located ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
The emperor hasn't come close to answering any of these questions ;and I don't care how long it takes to get answers from him . His administration ;the State Dept ,the Defense Dept ,and the CIA have to give adequate answers instead of the false narrative they've tried to peddle .
Obviously he isn't going to bring his own rope to your hanging.Quote:
But admitting his failed and secret policy to the American people would at least keep his promise of a transparent adm.
fine then Gowdy will do the job. You forget ;it's still young in the process. Even with the press on the case ,it took until August of 1973 to find the smoking gun against Nixon. .
you are still supposing there is a smoking gun, rather than there being bad judgement
let's start with the truth . Answer the questions about the policy .Answer the questions about the obvious cover up.
Here's one for ya . EVEN if a military unit could not show up in time to assist in the attack ;Why wasn't a unit sent to secure the compound . Geeze ! it took weeks for the FBI to show up and sift through the ashes . It was an American press contingent that found the Ambassador's diary ! . What useful intel walked out the doors in the days and hours after the attack ?
And for the Geographically challenged, The American Sigonella Naval Air Station in Sicilly Italy has had a rapid reaction force based there for EXACTLY such a problem in north Africa for decades. And it was a 45 minutes away.
capability is one thing, action and willingness to act another. Without boots on the ground what are you going to do? If you land without permission that is invasion although I recall it hasn't stopped you in the past (Cuba, Granda, Panama come to mind and I'm sure there are countless other instances)
They were prepared, staged and ready to take off... and a number of Top Officers were fired by Obama (and long Military carreers ended and ruined) for not standing down and just allowing it to happen, or saying anything about it. The unwillingness was 110% at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue... not anyplace else.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Yes strategy is a bumber isn't it. Just kill something doesn't really wash any more. You have never really learned the term expendiable have you. It's this we are the best, we have got to win complex you have been educated with. Look, maybe Obama is a , he obviously doesn't look for military solutions but then he was never in the military, whereas Kennedy and even Bush had some experience and took decisive action, but it eventually led to disasterious war.
Learn the lessons of history, sometimes you just can't act
It was an Embassy... if anyone attacked any other embassy in the world... that would be an act of war... Obama is a festering Rectum that surrounds himself with even less intelligent yes men or his fragile ego would collapse under its own weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Put Some Mortars into the Chinese Embassy or the Russian Embassy anywhere in the world and see how long it would go without a harsh reaction.
Personally, If I was an ambassador under Obama, or a State Dept Employee working at any foreign station... I'd quit... knowing my safety carried absolutely NO importance to the White house.
Democrats have been writing off Embassy personnel since Carter. If even Gerald Ford had been in office then we would never have heard the term "jihad." Now it may no longer be possible to assert Embassy sovereignty.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Yeah... Obama wrecked a lot of things, including the Military. He's a bigger threat to the USA than Putin or China are combined.
After Carter screwed up in Iran, Reagan screwed up in Lebanon. How selective is your memory?
We didn't have advance warnings for Lebanon like we had Under Clinton when they tried to blow up the WTC with a Van-bomb... and they treated it like shoplifting, or when Sudan tried to hand him over and Clinton tried to say, no controlling Authority... leaving OBL free to plan and execute 9/11, Which might not have happened if Bill Clinton had not legally prevented the FBI from talking to the NSA and CIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Regan also once and for all Shut up Momar Qaddafi with the threats and lines in the sand when we blew up his house and killed one of his inbred sons.
Obama would have been on his knees groveling and apologizing... as he was seen doing numerous times the last 6 years.
WTC was Bush/Cheney, NOT Clinton, and it got us in Iraq again for 10 years. Watch it, or the emperor will send drones instead of raccoons to your house.
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Originally Posted by talaniman
The BIPARTISAN 9/11 Commission came to the conclusion this happened because of Clintons inaction. Face reality... because that's what happened.
And also I have no idea where you are getting your information from... We got in Iraq because Saddam invaded Quwait... Raped and pillaged the country. And only saved his slimy skin by begging for a cease fire, that he continuously violated and that was a lot longer than 10 years, its been since 1991. THere was never two Gulf wars.....there was only ever ONE.....where hostilities resumed, Something thats likely to happen in Korea if the Pillsburry dog turd doesn't get eaten by his own dogs.
And incidently.....Obama got a LOT more people killed in either Iraq or Afghanistan than were killed under Bushes terms. So try again....that excuse doesn't cut the mustard.
You know what that is... We've had one in Korea since 1953...
let me see now I recall an embassy that got bombed in the Balkans war, very convenient and it didn't start a war. You are calling Obama a pu$$y, but that statement you just made makes you a pu$$y.
The embassy wasn't attacked by a state but by insurrgents or militants or Al Qaeda or whatever, noone to strike at unless you would like to do an air strike to take out everyone and everything on the ground, sort of counter productive, the days of gunboat diplomacy and heroics are over and we can be glad about that
Obama is one because he acts like one... He's a really bad joke, and to others who don't suffer from his follies... he's a laughing stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Gee... if you listen to Obama, and his BS... it was all about some video nobody ever heard about... that only had 600 views TOTAL in the few years it was up before they threw some poor guy in jail as a scapegoat... almost ALL the views before it was taken down came AFTER the administration was advertising it
If Obama was actually a man... he would have taken ownership of his actions... instead of blaming someone else for everything... literally everything.
He wanted the job... he got the job, by hook or byt crook... the buck stops with him. A real man would own up to it, like any supervisor, manager or higher in any higher position anyplace is expected to do.
That's how we view you here! LOL.Quote:
He's a really bad joke, and to others who don't suffer from his follies... he's a laughing stock.
I don't think the man has many options available, not as many as you think he has. The option you want him to take is resign, that really isn't an optionQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
We all visualize Dudley Do-Right riding his horse backwards from the old cartoon series when we think of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Resigning is always an option... Its been done before for far less valid reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
He's had lots of options... he was too think headed and short sighted to see much less use any of them.
He's managed to alienate and irritate so many people through his arrogance.. a lot of avenues and doors have permanently closed to him.
The old addage of actions having consequences.
You guys have been irritated and alienated since you lost congress in 2006. Get over yourself.
Gee...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Who got thrown out after having Congress, the Senate AND the whitehouse 2008-2010, and still couldn't do anything productive but spend record ammounts of OUR tax dollars...
Well tHe people Spoke and you lost the house in 2010, and the people are ready to speak and you are about to lose the Senate too.
Obama made history... historically the WORST President that as ever held office in this coutry.
His only accomplishment has been making Jimmy Carter look a LOT better than he actually was.
Do you believe that things will get done then?Quote:
the people are ready to speak and you are about to lose the Senate too
He sure couldn't help Bush look better, and fact is you are only as good a the last election, and there is another around the corner. I just hate to see you guys cry, whine and holler constantly, like spoiled brats who can't have your way, and fuss about your crappy diapers being changed.
After 200 years seems you would be civilized by now, and at least potty trained! And make no mistake, you will change your funky draws,
Ahmed Abu Khatallah apprehended .Says he was there but not part of the attack lol . Send him to GITMO !
BBC News - US seizes Benghazi raid 'ringleader' Ahmed Abu Khattala
fortuitous that they made this capture right before Evita's interview night on Fox News. Nahhh couldn't be a coincidence.
I think they just rounded up some randon sucker off the street and made him out to be the bad guy. Would anyone really know any different if they did that?
give them some credit they were probably watching him for a long time
They spent all of that time blaming it on a video nobody ever watched before they advertised it on TV. Steadfastly claiming it WASN'T a terrorist act.
he was IDed as a ringleader over a year ago ,and he did not try to hide. Instead he openly did interviews at street side cafes for 2 years . They could've nabbed him anytime . The timing is very suspicious . I think it's part helping Evita ,and part deflection from the disaster in northern Iraq.
probably were hoping he would lead them to others
Nope... anytime the democrats do something... its all about political gain, they would sit back and watch a genocide happen for years waiting until they could use it to forward some political agenda.
Next they are going to be claiming Evita orchastrated teh entire thing.....anything to try to remove the memory of her absolutely repulsive beviour about Benghazi....where she was sleeping off a bender rather than doing her job. Yes she is a mean drunk, and has a problem with the bottle. She's also a mean sober person too. I guess she's bitter about being born with piano legs and not attractive.
Ok so they try him in the US for crimes committed ""ön US soil" was the mission at Benghazi an embassy or have they overstepped here. It seems to me there is a bumbling, stumbling approach to the whole thing and yet inquiries have revealed little. Why do they think a show trial will make things any clearer, summary execution would make things clearer, but then you guys don't do summary execution, do you?
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