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  • Jul 20, 2011, 07:32 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    But, I DO know that somebody who DENIES the existence of evolution ISN'T the guy to get ANY scientific information from.
    Well then you wouldn't be talking about me... as you well know.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 07:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Don't you think it's a bit irrelevant? We apparently quit spending on that a couple of decades ago. I'll stick to cutting current wasteful spending.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 07:50 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'll stick to cutting current wasteful spending.

    Apparently not: Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Debt limit
  • Jul 20, 2011, 08:01 AM
    excon

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    The goal of the study was to understand the "real individual-level consequences of living in a penis-centered society".
    Hello again, righty's:

    The above from a story in FOX.

    In fact, the study is GOOD science. I don't expect you to agree. The lesson here, is that religion should NOT be a factor when determining whether a field of study ought to be engaged in. If it were, I suppose we'd all still believe the earth was flat.

    You're not going to tell me, are you, that your anti-gay bias doesn't stem from your religious beliefs?

    Excon
  • Jul 20, 2011, 08:34 AM
    tomder55

    Even if I conceded that it was good science ;why should I as a taxpayer fund it ? Does the Levithian now have to fund every science project someone imagines ?
  • Jul 20, 2011, 08:46 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Does the Levithian now have to fund every science project someone imagines ?

    Hello again, tom:

    Not at all.. Just the good ones.

    What? You don't want the government involved in science? Really? You don't like Nasa? You don't like GPS? You don't think science has national security implications? DUDE!

    Now, I don't know if studying gay men helps our country or not. But, I would NOT reject it out of hand simply based on the scary word "gay".

    excon
  • Jul 20, 2011, 08:52 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    What? You don't want the government involved in science? Really? You don't like Nasa? You don't like GPS? You don't think science has national security implications? DUDE!
    I have no idea how you could divine from my comments that I oppose ALL science reseach from my comments .
    Quote:

    Now, I don't know if studying gay men helps our country or not. But, I would NOT reject it out of hand simply based on the scary word "gay".
    Another false premise that I'll not respond to...
  • Jul 20, 2011, 08:53 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post

    When this funding began is irrelevant, the funding is slated to be continued at least until 2013 which makes it current wasteful spending.

    P.S. The original article I linked to already revealed it began in 2006 in paragraph 2 so your post was old news anyway.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 09:08 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    another false premise that I'll not respond to ...

    Hello again, tom:

    Ok, I'm willing to let you explain why you initially wrote that the study was a waste of money. I suggest it was the mention of "gay", or it could have been "penis". I don't know. What's the difference? Looks to me like whatever turned you off about it stems from your religious beliefs. No?

    excon
  • Jul 20, 2011, 09:21 AM
    tomder55

    You answered the question yourself . I don't think it's a national concern . If they were measuring straight men's weeners I'd think the same way... thus the false premise that my concern is religious based or biggoted.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 09:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    When this funding began is irrelevant, the funding is slated to be continued at least until 2013 which makes it current wasteful spending.

    Ah so you think military wasteful spending no longer happens then. Interesting concept.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 10:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah so you think military wasteful spending no longer happens then. Interesting concept.

    Concluding that my noting a long abandoned program as being irrelevant to current spending equates to me thinking "military wasteful spending no longer happens", is absurd.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 10:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    ... a long abandoned program ...

    I'm pretty sure they are still making ships.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 11:09 AM
    talaniman

    Wonder how many people with torches we could employ to scrap all that junk, or how much we could get for ALL our junk at a garage sale? Or move congress to a sports stadium, sell beer, have a half time show, and watch the fools fight? The options are endless.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 11:15 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Wonder how many people with torches we could employ to scrap all that junk, or how much we could get for ALL our junk at a garage sale?? Or move congress to a sports stadium, sell beer, have a half time show, and watch the fools fight? The options are endless.

    Or open a casino in the Chicago suburbs.

    With full house, lots of rolling at the Rivers Casino - Chicago Sun-Times
  • Jul 20, 2011, 11:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well casinos are a proven revenue earner for their area. They sometimes bring in some side effects though.
  • Jul 20, 2011, 06:06 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well casinos are a proven revenue earner for their area. They sometimes bring in some side effects though.

    Indeed and some governments have not been slow to exploit gambling as a revenue source. In my own case my state has reaped large scale revenues from both taxing gambling and providing a vehicle for it through state run lotteries and a totalisator as well as licensed clubs. The side effect casinos bring is tourism but allowing the masses to gamble enmasse often brings poverty
  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post

    Of course they are, I never said they weren't.

    You presented 2 specific ships as an example of wasteful spending, and it was - was being the operative word here. We apparently stopped spending on THOSE TWO SPECIFIC SHIPS in 1993 when we terminated the contract. We can't cut spending on a project that has long been abandoned, but then I've already said that AND I've already agreed we can cut defense spending.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 10:42 AM
    speechlesstx

    The Majority Leader of the Senate, a body with a Democratic majority that hasn't put out a budget resolution in 800 days, is upset. His complaint is that the House - which has sent the Ryan plan and Cut, Cap and Balance to the Senate - is taking the weekend off.

    What exactly is he expecting they do this weekend seeing as how they've passed their proposal? Get to work Harry, you've had 800 days and what have you done?

    Update: Now I know why Dirty Harry wants them to work this weekend, as of yesterday he didn't even realize the House had passed their plan. He actually said yesterday he was waiting on the House to show them the "path forward."

    Quote:

    “I'm at a point where I'm saying we need to hear from the House of Representatives,” Reid said from the Senate floor. “We have a plan to go forward over here. But until we hear from the House of Representatives, really our, all of our work here would be for naught.

    "I await the word from the Speaker," Reid said.
    Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio responded and told him the House's position is "crystal clear."

    Quote:

    "In case Sen. Reid didn't notice, a bipartisan 'Gang of 234' just sent him the way forward. It's called the 'Cut, Cap, and Balance Act'
    I guess he forgot. Waiting on you, Harry.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 11:10 AM
    tomder55

    The Dems have offered no budgets . The President's budget was voted down unanimously .
    The House Republicans passed a budget and passed CCB (although I have concerns about a Balanced Budget Amendment ) .
    The record is clear... the Dems have tried to skate this issue and will try to blame the Repubics for any consequences.

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