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We already documented that most states premiums are higher compared to what was previously available before the exchanges. And all those young invincibles ? Well the ones that can are staying on their parent's plans .The ones that aren't are going to get subsidies on the exchanges ,or will pay the nominal fine (ooops I mean tax) .
I see the unavoidable death spiral in our future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_spiral_(insurance)
Amazing how the forecasters of gloom and doom didn't see this coming 30 years ago and do something about it then.
The Goracle forgot to mention it when he was inventing the internet and global warming.Quote:
Amazing how the forecasters of gloom and doom didn't see this coming 30 years ago and do something about it then.
He didn't invent global warming, Maggie Thatcher did, but he should have seen this coming a classic J curve if ever we saw one, as a result all the ice in North America will melt, Oh! Sorry, that has already happened, Oh, I know, the conveyor will shut down and we will have another ice age. It's all about the hot air in North America really, it is rising leave the continent to freeze. Well, this is a good a theory as any...Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
Why do people keep repeating this myth?Quote:
The Goracle forgot to mention it when he was inventing the internet and global warming.
Funny how computer professionals can be so clueless about things, and the claims their own people have made for a very long time, like AL Gores... funny how many people believed him just because he said so... 1 minute on Google would have proven otherwise.
I was playing comuter games across the internet (true they were text based D&D type games at the time (forget the exact name) and this was on Digital Equipment Corporation VAX computers. I also got my first email account in 1981. Over 15 years before most people ever heard of the Internet. And many, many years after it was already in use. Despite Al Goes claims to have invented it when he would have been 11 if he had in fact had any part of it.
And as far as thje planet warming....odd how its doing that during a decade when planetary average mean tempratures have been falling.
That was for the funding for Arpanet.
Yesterday I kept hearing the term 'septic ' code by IT people speaking about the Obamacare web site failure/ Not quite sure all that it means ,but it appears that the assumption that there is an easy fix is a rosey scenario.
http://brucefwebster.com/BFWA-SystemsFailure.pdfQuote:
The client contracts with the manufacturer to develop and install a system. The project starts. The completion date slips. It keeps slipping. Each time the adjusted delivery date approaches, the project slips yet again. At some point, one of three things happens: the manufacturer/vendor abandons the project; the client cancels the project; or the manufacturer delivers a system that the client terms wholly inadequate and unacceptable. In some cases, the effort has gone on for years, with millions of dollars spent and little to show for it.
Obamacare, IT, and magic thinking : And Still I Persist…Quote:
The comments and leaks coming out from a hundred sources make it pretty clear that this project was going to face a disastrous launch, particularly with the insistence on an October 1 go-live date. Furthermore, it is also becoming clear that the problems with the architecture, design, implementation and testing of Healthcare.gov are so fundamental and deep that the current system many never work satisfactorily — that it may, in fact, be infected with “septic” code, design, etc. I believe this was known by many inside the project, and yet it went live on October 1st anyway — truly wishful, or if you will, magic, thinking.
Magic thinking is, of course, a very common phenomenon of the Left, for all their claims of being more “rational” and “scientific” and “objective” than the Right. You can see it in their beliefs that the passage of Obamacare and their own good intentions and righteous cause would somehow negate the laws of economics, psychology, biology, medicine, and unintended consequences. What is happening with Healthcare.gov is that same magic thinking phenomenon in a very public, mechanistic, and immediately testable environment. Even the media is losing its ability and desire to cover for the spectacular failure going on.
FUBAR
That was all in place and in use long before Al Gore knew what was different between boys and girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
There are many myths, Smoothy, and some of us have been involved in technology longer than we care to remember. I brought the first micro computers into this country, I was remotely accessing computers in the 1980's and Mr Gore can kiss my... well no he can't actually. If he invented anything it is the myth of the J curveQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I learned programing in in college 1980, on a Comadore CBM (part of my Electronic Engineering Degree)... I bought my first computer in 1981... a Ohio Scientific Superboard (about the time the very first IBM PC was released, which ran on basica in rom, not MS/DOS yet)... in the mid 1980's I was on the very small team that invented and got the IEEE 802.3 standard established for Ethernet. I also worked for a stretch on Government PDP/11 and VAX 11/785 mini-mainframes back in the day before they became museum pieces. So my background goes further back than some...not as far as others.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Never worked with CP/M for example...but did with VMS and every flavor and variety of Microsoft operating systems...(except Windows 8.1 I haven't messed with yet.)
How many people here have messed around with or even knoew about WIndows 286? It was the predecessor of Windows 3.0.
Yep..messed around with OS/2 for a while as well as GEM.....before they fell by the wayside.
Hello again,
My d**k is bigger than yours. Bill Gates and I are friends.
excon
Good for you... ask him for some money... he's got lots more than he needs.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I could use a boxfull of it too while you are at it.
Well Ex I never doubted that, in your dreams of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Where have I heard this before?
This is beyond surreal now.Quote:
In a press briefing where reporters asked about no other topic, Pelosi acknowledged that the problems dogging users trying to enroll in insurance plans on the HealthCare.gov website are "beyond glitches." But the trouble, she quickly added, "does not take away from the fact that we're on a path" toward installing the many benefits under the law.
"The situation right now is unacceptable; it's unfortunate," she said at a news conference in the Capitol. "But we did not work very hard and … dedicate our public service to a website. It was to an initiative for affordable, quality healthcare for all Americans.
"Just fix it, so we can go forward," she added. "Fix the technology, and let's not get too bogged down in what happens if they're not able to fix it."
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If what I'm hearing is true then it may not be fixable without a complete overhaul .
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Yup. $400 million down the drain and we're just supposed to cross our fingers and hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, Steve:
Yup. $24 BILLION is what the Republican shutdown of government cost us. The Dems are pikers compared to YOU.Quote:
Yup. $400 million down the drain and we're just supposed to cross our fingers and hope for the best.
excon
So why didn't Dems come to the table and talk?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Why should they when they WON by NOT talking? The right wing invitation to negotiate was a TRAP that Obama and Reid didn't fall into.Quote:
So why didn't Dems come to the table and talk?
So, you fringe type wrong wingers CLOSED down the government and cost us taxpayers $24 BILLION DOLLARS. I know you have an aversion to the truth, but I don't. That's what happened, and you know it.
excon
And yet today we hear the Dems speak of delaying the individual mandate . Ummm... when did we hear that before ?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
There was nothing to talk about, you shut the government down over BS, you open it back up. What's to talk about?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Good to know it was all about your side winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And yet another "spurious" story.
Health Care Law Fails to Lower Prices for Rural Areas
Hello again, Steve:
What? Your side didn't want to win? You guys are all patriotic and wonderful, and only wanted what's good for the country? Bwa, ha ha ha ha...Quote:
Good to know it was all about your side winning.
You are either demonstrating an UNBELIEVABLE degree of naievete, or you're lying.. Furthermore, WHY would you think I'd BUY that crap?
excon
All I have to say to that is "hope and change."Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The White House has now officially delayed the deadline for signing up for health insurance by six weeks.
Gee, didn't the emperor just force a 16 day government shutdown when some Republicans suggested he delay the mandate?
Note that this is only the first delay. Before they are done I predict they will do exactly what those terrorist Republicans suggested: delay the mandate for one year. Which will essentially prove that the Republicans were right in the first place.
Any rational thinking person can say the same about anyone who is exhibiting such fanatical devotion to Obamacare when all they know about it is the propaganda pushed down our throats by the very same people that exempted themselves from ever having to have it themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
At least we have facts on our side... not a religious devotion to a pathological liar who never worked an honest job in his life... yet has somehow ammassed over 90 million dollars in personal wealth in the last five years while on the government payrol that pays a tiny fraction of that.
Wow! Sounds like the Republicans really know what they are talking about. Guess they'll be taking over by 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
He wrote a few bestsellers along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Exactly WHAT books has he written in the last 5 years? How about the last 20? Care to present any evidence there were enough of those sold to account for 90 million dollars in royalties? he would only see a small fraction of the selling price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Not even Steven King has managed to pull that one off... and OWEbamas couple books are only a best seller among the lunatic left.
Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review: Week Two of the Obamacare Federal Health Insurance Exchange Rollout––No ImprovementQuote:
The U.S. individual health insurance market currently totals about 19 million people. Because the Obama administration's regulations on grandfathering existing plans were so stringent about 85% of those, 16 million, are not grandfathered and must comply with Obamacare at their next renewal. The rules are very complex. For example, if you had an individual plan in March of 2010 when the law was passed and you only increased the deductible from ,000 to ,500 in the years since, your plan has lost its grandfather status and it will no longer be available to you when it would have renewed in 2014.
These 16 million people are now receiving letters from their carriers saying they are losing their current coverage and must re-enroll in order to avoid a break in coverage and comply with the new health law's benefit mandates––the vast majority by January 1. Most of these will be seeing some pretty big rate increases.
But unless they live in Washington state, Nevada, Colorado, and Kentucky, they can't now get on an exchange site to see their plan options, new prices, and provider directories so they can make an informed decision before they lose their coverage
Where do you get $90M? Wikipedia says, "As per his 2012 financial disclosure, Obama may be worth as much as $10 million." Forbes say $6M (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarl...nce-last-year/).Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I made a pretty penny on the four books I wrote and got traditionally published, and I'm nobody. Obama's were also made into e-books and were translated into foreign languages and are still being purchased. Many public libraries in the U.S. have copies of them. (I'll check WorldCat, if you wish.)
As for legitimate work, he taught at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years—as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004 (constitutional law). In 1993, he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland (civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development) as an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then as counsel from 1996 to 2004.
Funny how those are the claims... but nobody seems to ever remember him ever doing any of that. Except the unpaid community organizer stuff. (meaning there are no unsealed public records that back any of this up)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Even even if he had....the 90 million dollars that fell out of the sky the last five years he didn't have even after all the years of doing that.
So you have in effect proven nothing.
His income over the last 5 years has been $400,000 a year.
that accounts for $2,000,000 of that 90 million in the last 5 years.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepre...dentialpay.htm
Did his fairy godmother bring him the rest...or was it George SOros?
Incidently, he authored only THREE books....
The Audacity of Hope
Dreams from My Father
Of Thee I Sing
Since these sell for an average of $6.00 and even a good roaly rate of 10% he'd have to sell a book to have the planets population...yet almost nobodyu I know ever bought one.....and the few I know who read them got pirated copies of the internet he gets ZERO royalties from.
I went to WorldCat to see how many copies of all formats are owned worldwide, but got tired of copying down totals. (You can go to a public library and ask a librarian to show you.) There are millions of books of his in many formats (hardcover, paperback, large print, CD, e-book, in Spanish, in other languages, etc.) just in public libraries, and that doesn't count personal purchases. The average cost for a new hardcover book is around $30. CDs can be that or even more, paperbacks less. The library I worked at has at least 10 copies of various titles, and the library director is a Republican serving a Republican community.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Most books are sold on Amazon these days or other online outlets at far below bookstore prices as most book stores are out of business... and his books were on sale for like $5.99 at Amazon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Paperback royalties are as a low as 1% and as high as 10%. Hardcovers averaged around 10% and those are based on the sellig price. Being he was a young pompous unknown blohard when he wrote them and any contracts were signed...they would have likely been on the low end of the range.
When his books were new titles and werd hot, they garnered at least $30 a pop (hardcover). The Washington Times says, "The president earned between $1 million and $5 million in royalties in 2010 from the book, Dreams from My Father, according to a financial disclosure form released by the White House Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
He also pulled in between $100,000 and $1,000,000 from Audacity of Hope.”
Where did you get the $90M figure?
You really don't want to know where he pulled that from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
HINT: Its where all his facts come from.
Here's an inconvenient truth. There are 15million Americans who purchase their insurance in the private market. Many of them have already been informed that their plans are being eliminated because they don't comply with the pile on of coverages that the Dems ,the emperor ,and HHS has written into the mandates. When offered alternatives at all ,the plans are cost prohibitive with premiums double or triple their current rates. Even if they manage to gain access to the tax subsidies offered in the ObamaCare exchanges, many will pay far more for insurance.
(remember the big lie... "if you like your plan you can keep it")
As of now ,those millions of formerly insured Americans will not be insured Jan.1 .
The Slimes is reporting that people in rural areas are being hit especially hard . Not because there are no state exchanges.. these are plans being offered in the Federal exchange.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/bu...reas.html?_r=0
Quote:
While competition is intense in many populous regions, rural areas and small towns have far fewer carriers offering plans in the law's online exchanges. Those places, many of them poor, are being asked to choose from some of the highest-priced plans in the 34 states where the federal government is running the health insurance marketplaces, a review by The New York Times has found.
Of the roughly 2,500 counties served by the federal exchanges, more than half, or 58 percent, have plans offered by just one or two insurance carriers, according to an analysis by The Times of county-level data provided by the Department of Health and Human Services. In about 530 counties, only a single insurer is participating.
The analysis suggests that the ambitions of the Affordable Care Act to increase competition have unfolded unevenly, at least in the early going, and have not addressed many of the factors that contribute to high prices. Insurance companies are reluctant to enter challenging new markets, experts say, because medical costs are high, dominant insurers are difficult to unseat, and powerful hospital systems resist efforts to lower rates.
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