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  • Jan 29, 2014, 08:12 PM
    paraclete
    i'm not interested in holding Obama responsible for actions commenced by others. Obama took you out of Iraq and hopefully he will take you out of Afghanistan. Obama did not create the GFC, that started on Bush's watch. His reactions to it may be questionable in some instances such as lack of prosecution and regulation of the banks but he has had a hostile congress. I don't not agree with QE but the extent to which he has control of it isn't apparent. I have not argued that the ACA was an ideal solution to a problem, but the right doesn't admit there was/is a problem
  • Jan 29, 2014, 08:15 PM
    smoothy
    Boy does the media over there give you a biased view of events here.

    Obama hasn't done ANYTHING successfully in his life... except con people... and he's not even really good at that...
  • Jan 29, 2014, 11:08 PM
    paraclete
    any view of events I have comes from your media. You have heard of the internet. With it I have access to many news sources and so do our media. Our media is free therefore we have presentations from across the world. Some of our media is owned by the same people who own your media. If you want to look for bias, look in your own backyard. You must learn to seperate opinion from reporting. What you are saying is my opinion differs from yours. In regard to the actions of certain persons, it certainly does as we have already discussed

    You don't like Obama because he has made a mess of the implemention of the health care initiative, I can understand that, it is hard to get good help these days. You don't like him because he has dared to say I will do it anyway no matter what you think. We will see whether these are just empty words. He might be a posser, many politicians are. It is a fault you find on both the right and the left
  • Jan 30, 2014, 05:23 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    Obama hasn't done ANYTHING successfully in his life

    Post your résumé and we'll compare.
  • Jan 30, 2014, 09:28 PM
    paraclete
    he can't do that, it's "classified"
  • Jan 31, 2014, 04:03 AM
    NeedKarma
    I know... it's part of the delusion that we chuckle about.
  • Jan 31, 2014, 07:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    I know... it's part of the delusion that we chuckle about.
    As I was saying...
  • Jan 31, 2014, 07:29 AM
    NeedKarma
    What were you saying about smoothy?
  • Jan 31, 2014, 01:09 PM
    paraclete
    he was just saying
  • Apr 30, 2014, 02:21 PM
    tomder55
    There can be no more denial.. There was an intentional cover up of the events in Benghazi ;and a cover up of the cover up. Previously unreleased internal Obama administration emails show that a coordinated effort was made in the days following the Benghazi terror attacks to portray the incident as rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy. The disinformation effort was INTENTIONAL on order of the White House. Susan Rice was sent out, papers were shopped, talking points were broadcast in a concerted effort to mislead the public.
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...susan-rice.htm

    ok ;let the yawning begin and go back to watching non-stop coverage of Donald Sterling. Candy Crowley already demonstrated in the Romney debate with the emperor the extent the press will cover for him.
    Candy Crowley Interjects: Obama 'Did In Fact' Say Libya Attack Was Terrorism - YouTube
  • Apr 30, 2014, 04:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    ok ;let the yawning begin
    I see in all that you made a worthwhile comment
  • Apr 30, 2014, 04:42 PM
    tomder55
    there would be major resignations in your government if something as outrageous as this had occurred.
    Judicial Watch: Benghazi Documents Point to White House on Misleading Talking Points | Judicial Watch
  • Apr 30, 2014, 06:15 PM
    paraclete
    hey Tom we don't wait for something outrageous to occur, our little ICAC enquiry has claimed four politicians in the last month for something as small as a bottle of wine, and more heads are going to roll over donations to slush funds, I think you call them Superpacs. Maybe our politicians are a little more sensitive to an accusation of corruption than yours, but I do know this, lobbyists will be in the sights of the legislature
  • Apr 30, 2014, 06:19 PM
    Catsmine
    Does anyone recall me posting "I'm not concerned about Barak HUSSEIN Obama, what worries me is Barak CAPONE Obama" when he was running for President the first time? Welcome to Chicago Gangster politics, world.
  • May 1, 2014, 12:45 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Does anyone recall me posting "I'm not concerned about Barak HUSSEIN Obama, what worries me is Barak CAPONE Obama" when he was running for President the first time? Welcome to Chicago Gangster politics, world.

    Wait a moment, rhetoric aside, is there wholesale slaughter in the streets? mobs running booze and drugs all other the place? corruption in high places? Look let's just forget I asked
  • May 1, 2014, 04:12 AM
    NeedKarma
    Just more right-wing buzzwords that are supposed to demonize the other side. It appeals to the no-thinking base.
  • May 1, 2014, 04:45 AM
    paraclete
    Yes Obama can't cast off his roots, but enough people thought he might make a difference, and they can't get over it, their smear didn't work. Now if he had come from any place but Chicago
  • May 1, 2014, 04:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    What the americans don't get is that their system is broken for both parties. Their partisan blinders prevent them from seeing that.
  • May 1, 2014, 05:04 AM
    smoothy
    We know how completely perfect the Canadain system is... We hear about it all the time from you. No partisanship in the great white north according to you... which is quite contrary to what a lot of other Canadians I know say, in fact almost all of them say otherwise..
  • May 1, 2014, 05:15 AM
    NeedKarma
    I didn't say anything about Canadian politics; why do you bring it up?

    Quote:

    which is quite contrary to what a lot of other Canadians I know say, in fact almost all of them say otherwise
    A meaningless sentence that allows you to write whatever you want.
  • May 1, 2014, 05:17 AM
    paraclete
    When the system is broken there is only one way to fix it. I doubt anyone there has the resolve to do it. Lots of great talk about why they need guns but they will never use them, the nation has grown too big to take such remedies
  • May 19, 2014, 06:08 PM
    paraclete
    Seems there might be reason to drag up Benghazi again with plans being made to evacuate US embassy staff, nationals, etc. This is what you get when you over through an established government. Chaos, so lets see how many Senate inquiries can dine out on this one. Howls of why weren't we warned
  • May 20, 2014, 06:50 AM
    tomder55
    Congressman Trey Gowdy questioning why the press isn't doing their job . Trey Gowdy Demands Answers On Benghazi - YouTube
    Quote:

    REP. TREY GOWDY (R-SC): "We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act in Benghazi, and make no mistake, justice will be done." That was the president of the United States over a year ago.

    "We're investigating exactly what happened, but my biggest priority now is bringing those folks to justice." That was the president of the United States over a year ago. No one has been arrested. No one has been prosecuted. No one has been brought to justice. We don't even have access to the witnesses.

    You in the media were good enough for my 16 years as a prosecutor not to tell me how to do my job, and so far in Congress, y'all have been good enough not to tell me how to do my job. I'm not telling you how to do your job. But I'm going to ask you some questions, and if you can't answer these questions, then I'll leave you to draw whatever conclusion you want to draw about whether or not the media has provided sufficient oversight.

    Can you tell me why Chris Stevens was in Benghazi the night that he was killed? Do you know? Does it bother you whether or not you know why Chris Stevens was in Benghazi? Do you know why we were the last flag flying in Benghazi after the British had left and the Red Cross had been bombed? Do you know why requests for additional security were denied? Do you know why an ambassador asking for more security days and weeks before he was murdered and those requests went unheeded? Do you know the answer to why those requests went unheeded? Do you know why no assets were deployed during the siege? And I've heard the explanation -- which defies logic, frankly -- that we couldn't have gotten there in time, but you know, they didn't know when it was going to end. So how can you possibly cite that as an excuse? Do you know whether the president called any of our allies and said, "Can you help? We have men under attack." Can you answer that? Do any of you know why Susan Rice was picked? The secretary of state did not go. She says she doesn't like Sunday talk shows. That's the only media venue she does not like, if that's true. Why was Susan Rice on the five Sunday talk shows? Do you know the origin of this mythology that it was spawned as a spontaneous reaction to a video? Do you know where that started? Do you know how we got from no evidence of that to that being the official position of the administration?

    In conclusion, Congress is supposed to provide oversight, the voters are supposed to provide oversight, and you are supposed to provide oversight. That's why you have special liberties, and that's why you have special protections. I am not surprised that the president of the United States called this a phony scandal. I'm not surprised Secretary Clinton asked, "What difference does it make?" I'm not even surprised that Jay Carney said Benghazi happened a long time ago. I'm just surprised at how many people bought it.
  • May 20, 2014, 09:04 AM
    talaniman
    Nice spin to justify yet another right wing witch hunt, fueled by election year politics. Stay tuned to Fox News for Gowdys latest spin.

    I guess you guys have to holler about something for November 2014. The clown circus continues..
  • May 20, 2014, 09:05 AM
    NeedKarma
    Anybody see the televised GOP state governor candidate debate in Idaho? LOL!
  • May 20, 2014, 09:09 AM
    talaniman
    Debate? I thought it was an SNL skit! Their best so far since Palin was running for VP! LMAO!!
  • May 20, 2014, 09:15 AM
    smoothy
    We will be selling tickets to the public executions that will rightfully be taking place when Obama, Hillary and Holder can no longer trample over the legal system and withhold justice for each other. Murder has no statute of limitations... they will ALL be private citizens again soon... and not just one of them.

    Have a world wide pay-per -view event...between the tree of them and we could pay back most of the debt Obama ran up.
  • May 20, 2014, 09:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    We will be selling tickets to the public executions that will rightfully be taking place
    So you publicly advocate the killing of these people? And you're a christian right?
    This is another example of why religion is a problem with american society.
  • May 20, 2014, 09:23 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So you publicly advocate the killing of these people? And you're a christian right?
    This is another example of why religion is a problem with american society.

    After the trial... We believe in the death penalty here in the USA for the truly Heinous crimes... and aiding the terrorists by coving it up... qualifies. This wasn't a parking violation.


    We could settle for exactly the same treatment that John Christopher Stevens received while the White house sat and watched on video... and yes they did see the attack on realtime video. The autopsy proved what happened to him before and after he died. And why they quashed it early on but not before information got out. ALL embassies have live video from security cameras back to the USA.

    Actually I think the Electric Chair or the Guillotine would be humain in comparison.
  • May 20, 2014, 09:24 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Nice spin to justify yet another right wing witch hunt, fueled by election year politics. Stay tuned to Fox News for Gowdys latest spin.

    I guess you guys have to holler about something for November 2014. The clown circus continues..

    obviously you have no answers to the legitimate questions Gowdy raises.
  • May 20, 2014, 10:33 AM
    talaniman
    Yes I do, but why bother since it doesn't fit your conspiracy/corruption theory. Even after Iran/Contra, the left didn't hang Reagan when 300 marines were killed in Lebanon. I won't even go into the Bush years.
  • May 20, 2014, 10:39 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yes I do, but why bother since it doesn't fit your conspiracy/corruption theory. Even after Iran/Contra, the left didn't hang Reagan when 300 marines were killed in Lebanon. I won't even go into the Bush years.

    I seem to remember Regan wasn't found guilty on the IRan Contra thing... and I know you are old enough to have known that as well.

    I also remember the Valerie Plaime withch hunt... where despite all the attempts of the Democrats... no crime was found to have been committed... and the only person that went to jail did so because he got his testimony crossed up... not because of anything to do with the actual faux crime. Since her husband is who actually outed her first.

    SInce we had to listen to WATERGATE this, and WATERGATE that... for the last 40 years... WATERGATE was a joke compared to Benghazigate, and NIxon was an absolute SAINT compaired to Obama...

    Nixon only threatened to use the IRS to get back... OBAMA actually did it... and that's SOmething else that needs prosecuted too, IRSgate... people need fire,and people need to go to jail for that... everyone that have anything to do in it.
  • May 20, 2014, 10:44 AM
    talaniman
    Yes I remember it well, before the right wing spin machine tried to revise history.
  • May 20, 2014, 10:54 AM
    smoothy
    That was back when there really were still some journalists... instead of propgandists in the media. Journalism as a trade died out a lot of years ago.
  • May 20, 2014, 11:04 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    WATERGATE was a joke compared to Benghazigate
    And Benghazi is a joke compared to the number of contractors (287) killed in Iraq that no one seems to talk about.
  • May 20, 2014, 11:05 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    And Benghazi is a joke compared to the number of contractors (287) killed in Iraq that no one seems to talk about.

    They were doing their jobs in a war zone .
  • May 20, 2014, 11:07 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yes I do, but why bother since it doesn't fit your conspiracy/corruption theory. Even after Iran/Contra, the left didn't hang Reagan when 300 marines were killed in Lebanon. I won't even go into the Bush years.

    So you divert since you can't answer his questions. Reagan took responsibility for the Marine base bombing ;and changed his policy there as a result . He did not make a false narrative to explain the failure.
  • May 20, 2014, 11:11 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    They were doing their jobs in a war zone
    So were the diplomats. Case closed.
  • May 20, 2014, 11:11 AM
    tomder55
    btw ; The Marines were there as part of a multinational peacekeeping mission supported by the UN . They weren't there as a secret mission to arm jihadists in Syria with weapons we gave to Libyan rebels.
  • May 20, 2014, 11:12 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So were the diplomats. Case closed.

    Stevens was not in Benghazi on 9-11-12 doing any 'diplomatic ' mission.

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