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  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:33 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Where did Fox get that slideshow? Who uses it in schools?
    Is it part of a news report, if so where is it?

    It looks like there is a small copyright on the left hand side of the first page. It looks like it came from Pearson Education Inc.

    You might want to check there for more information but they seem to be the origination point.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:34 AM
    NeedKarma
    But who actually uses that in any schools?
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:37 AM
    speechlesstx
    Common Core State Standards Initiative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:37 AM
    tomder55
    it's one of those standardized tests people love.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:39 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But who actually uses that in any schools?

    Im not sure who is using it you would have to refer to the originator of the documents. But if you go to the last page it refers to a dvd of some sort and from the symbols it seems to be either home schoolers or some part of a education extension program.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:39 AM
    NeedKarma
    "But Pearson Education tells Fox News that this worksheet was copyrighted in 2007 and has been in use ever since—predating Common Core. And Pearson is far from the only curriculum vendor out there. Besides, controversy over politicized education started far before Common Core came along to cause a fuss."

    I don't agree with that content either.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 05:56 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Besides, controversy over politicized education started far before Common Core came along to cause a fuss.
    Indeed ,liberal indoctination was certainly part of the curriculum when I was going through the public education system. Thankfully in my formative years the Catholics taught some of the basal and basic fact based education and methods that WG described .
    Yes we had to memorize . The concepts behind the facts came later .
  • Nov 20, 2013, 06:24 AM
    NeedKarma
    Funny how you lament it but usually when you hold a captain of industry in high regard they invariably have all had the same education. It always astounds me how impotent conservatives are at making any changes to the US educational system that they abhor so much.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 07:06 AM
    tomder55
    you see the howling at the moon reaction by the 'progressives' when it's tried
  • Nov 20, 2013, 07:18 AM
    talaniman
    Those with money have greater value than those without. They are shills for the rich few, and too bad for the have not's. But the conundrum they find themselves in is all those poor people in their conservative enclaves hate the largess of the rich too, but is the voter base they need most.

    They holler loudly about liberal education, but look at what they have done with their conservative education in parts of the country they have controlled for decades. The southern states are the poorest in the country, even when the money was flowing.

    They blame everyone but themselves.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 09:05 AM
    talaniman
    America's Poorest States: 24/7 Wall St.

    List of lowest-income counties in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How many links do you want, I have a bunch from various sources. Speaking of a$$s, have you checked what comes out of yours?
  • Nov 20, 2013, 09:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    America's Poorest States: 24/7 Wall St.

    List of lowest-income counties in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How many links do you want, I have a bunch from various sources. Speaking of a$$s, have you checked what comes out of yours?

    How exactly is this alleged conservative education in the south the root cause? That would be the point you need to back up.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 09:41 AM
    NeedKarma
    How is a "liberal" education the cause of any issues you mention? How was that proven?
  • Nov 20, 2013, 09:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    How is a "liberal" education the cause of any issues you mention? How was that proven?

    I'm not the one linking education to the plight of Americans so I have nothing to prove. He did and he does have something to prove. Try and keep up.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 10:01 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I knew public education was a joke but that's pathetic, and yes I lay most of the blame on the stranglehold liberals have on public education

    Seems you did. It's the whole premise of your thread.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 10:35 AM
    NeedKarma
    There's no data there that shows that the education is "liberal" nor that it is the cause of the low scores. Did I miss something?
  • Nov 20, 2013, 10:36 AM
    talaniman
    They're your base, your territory, you explain why they are so poor.
  • Nov 20, 2013, 11:37 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They're your base, your territory, you explain why they are so poor.

    My friend, I don't ask you to back up arguments you didn't make, that's silly. You made the connection, time to back it up or retract.

    Quote:

    They holler loudly about liberal education, but look at what they have done with their conservative education in parts of the country they have controlled for decades. The southern states are the poorest in the country, even when the money was flowing.
  • Nov 21, 2013, 04:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    While Tal is looking for connections to how conservative education in the south makes people poor, is like to point out that one of the president's favorite programs to help poor children doesn't work. A study released by HHS conveniently after the election shows Pre-K and Head Start to be failures.

    New Evidence Raises Doubts on Obama's Preschool For All

    In fact, children who did not attend pre-k generally fared better. So naturally what does the president who wants "effective" programs for poor children do after this study? Call for more of it, to which a dutiful Congress proposed last week, universal pre-k.

    Why should we keep pouring money into programs that don't work and in fact may cause more harm than good? I'm guessing it's part of that your children don't belong to you thing. Gotta get 'em out of the parental sphere and get a "head start" on that indoctrination?
  • Nov 21, 2013, 05:20 AM
    tomder55
    the younger they are ,the easier to indoctrinate and program.
    Barack Hussein Obama Mmm Mmm Mmm - YouTube

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