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There is actual proof they made ti the north America centuries before the Europeans....and there is ample Archeological proof to back it up.....as well as that they were growing grapes in Greenland.

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I didn't say they didn't achieve anything they were certainly good sailors and I didn't say there wasn't a warm period that made it easier for them, but when they told of their deeds over centuries some things got a little exaggerated such as the Norse Sagas suggest they won the battle of Clontaff in 1014. They were primarily raiders and so didn't set up permanent settlements in the americas or perhaps they found the environment as harsh as the europeans who settled Jamestown

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They were primarily raiders and so didn't set up permanent settlements in the americas or perhaps they found the environment as harsh as the europeans who settled Jamestown

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My roots have been traced to Viking/Norman's who settled in southern Italy .They did settle where it was hospitable . Best guess is that the Greenland-Iceland-Nova Scotia Vikings were driven out by eventual colder climate and perhaps indigenous populations .Since grapes are grown in Labrador today it is very believable that in warmer climes Labrador and Newfoundland would have productive vineyards.

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My roots have been traced to Viking/Norman's who settled in southern Italy .They did settle where it was hospitable . Best guess is that the Greenland-Iceland-Nova Scotia Vikings were driven out by eventual colder climate and perhaps indigenous populations .Since grapes are grown in Labrador today it is very believable that in warmer climes Labrador and Newfoundland would have productive vineyards.

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Their navigation was essentially to follow the coast lines so with encrouching ice their voyages would have become harder with easier pickings closer to home, hearth and family is a strong pull in a harsh winter

DC mayor moves to the right... sort of.

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Mayor Gray vetoes ‘living wage’ bill aimed at Wal-Mart, setting up decisive council vote

District Mayor Vincent C. Gray vetoed legislation Thursday that would force the city’s largest retailers to pay a super-minimum wage to their workers, ending two months of uncertainty over the controversial bill’s fate and setting up a decisive override vote at the D.C. Council as early as Tuesday.

The debate over the bill, the Large Retailer Accountability Act, has polarized local leaders while garnering national attention and putting focus on the low wages many retail chains pay their workers.

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And why pray tell would he do such a thing? It's not a true living wage bill because you know, it only basically applies to Walmart. The other reason? It's a job killer.

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“If I were to sign this bill into law, it would do nothing but hinder our ability to create jobs, drive away retailers, and set us back on the path to prosperity for all,” he said.

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You don't say.

Just an observation, but we have 4 of those Supercenters and every time they have built one here the area it's in has exploded in growth. I'm just sayin'...

And while the right allegedly keeps moving further right, the left just keeps getting meaner, nastier and more intolerant. And clueless I might add. The Communications Director of the Sacramento, CA Democratic Party, responded to an inoffensive tweet by a Ted Cruz staffer... “May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases”

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And while the right allegedly keeps moving further right, the left just keeps getting meaner, nastier and more intolerant. And clueless I might add. The Communications Director of the Sacramento, CA Democratic Party, responded to an inoffensive tweet by a Ted Cruz staffer...“May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases”

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I think Allen Brauer is suffering from incurable ED.

Arseholes cover the political spectrum.

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I think Allen Brauer is suffering from incurable ED.

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And there's your right-wing example.

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And there's your right-wing example.

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If Smoothy were representing the Republican party that might matter, but since he isn't let's focus on the other a$$hole, though it apparently doesn't bother you for him to publicly call for a miserable death of Amanda's children.

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And there's your right-wing example.

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I speak for myself... but only a Liberal would find nothing in that guys twitter posts... unless it was someone responding to one of their own.

Hello again,

Yawwwwnnn... The world is filled with UGLY people. Who gives a sh!t? Telling me about them isn't interesting and doesn't further the political conversation.

excon

Unless it's a Conservative that does it... THEN it deserves a Congressional investigation and Front page news coverage for at least two weeks.

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Unless its a Conservative that does it....

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Hello again, smoothy:

Nahhhh.

I like to talk about events and not people... Like the event this morning, where the Republican party gave up ANY pretense it ever had that it cares about poor people.

The Republican lead House voted to CUT $40 Billion from the food stamp program. It USED to be that BOTH Republicans and Democrats cared about hungry people.. But, that was BEFORE this rightward lurch.

Now, I'm not interested in the arguments against food stamps. I've heard the takers v makers argument.. What I want to know is why is it Republican policy TODAY when it NEVER was before?

excon

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Oh the irony.

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Hello again,

Yawwwwnnn... The world is filled with UGLY people. Who gives a sh!t? Telling me about them isn't interesting and doesn't further the political conversation.

excon

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If I were starting threads like this one I think I'd refrain from complaining when your hypocrite a$$holes get outed.

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Hello again, smoothy:

Nahhhh.

I like to talk about events and not people... Like the event this morning, where the Republican party gave up ANY pretense it ever had that it cares about poor people.

The Republican lead House voted to CUT $40 Billion from the food stamp program. It USED to be that BOTH Republicans and Democrats cared about hungry people.. But, that was BEFORE this rightward lurch.

Now, I'm not interested in the arguments against food stamps. I've heard the takers v makers argument.. What I wanna know is why is it Republican policy TODAY when it NEVER was before?

excon

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We like poor people... the ones that we hate are the leeches and welfare bums.

Obam'sa been claiming how much the economy has improved under him... that means we can reduce those (food stamps etc) to at or below the levels when Bush left office , right?

FYI, the left wing is moving further left.

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Hello again, Steve:

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FYI, the left wing is moving further left.

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Here's the difference between you and me.. I'm a LEFTY.. I'm FAR left, and I KNOW it. You, however, are a far right loon, and you think you're in the center...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

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Hello again, Steve:
Here's the difference between you and me.. I'm a LEFTY.. I'm FAR left, and I KNOW it. You, however, are a far right loon, and you think you're in the center...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

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And as is typical with FAR lefties you just make sh*t up, in spite of the evidence against your argument.