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  • May 9, 2013, 10:28 AM
    talaniman
    I defend your rights to express your opinions no matter how far from reality they may be. What stuck in your ear and your theme song is your business too.
  • May 9, 2013, 10:29 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I defend your rights to express your opinions no matter how far from reality they may be. What stuck in your ear and your theme song is your business too.

    YOU are expressing an opinion... what Hillarly Clinton did in the previously reference stiuations is proven fact. Well documented facts that can not be disputed..
  • May 9, 2013, 11:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Yep, this administration is more Nixonian than Nixon's. Not only have they tried to silence (and intimidate) the Benghazi whistleblowers, the most transparent administration evah is apparently trying to silence the Inspector General for Afghanistan reconstruction.

    Quote:

    The watchdog who tracks the billions of taxpayer dollars spent to rebuild Afghanistan says government officials have tried to silence him because they think he's embarrassing the White House and Afghan President Hamid Karzai by pointing out the waste and fraud.

    John Sopko, the special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction, used a speech at the New America Foundation on Wednesday to blast government “bureaucrats”' who have told him to stop publicizing damning audits that detail case after case of waste, corruption and mismanagement of rebuilding efforts in Afghanistan. Some government officials have even complained that they aren't allowed to pre-screen or edit his reports, he said.

    “Since my appointment by the president last summer, I have been surprised to learn how many people both in and out of the government do not understand the role of an independent inspector general,” Sopko said.

    ...

    “Over the last 10 months, I have been criticized by some bureaucrats for not pre-clearing my press releases with them, for not letting them edit the titles of my audits, for talking too much to Congress, for talking too much to the press … and, basically, for not being a 'team player' and undermining 'our country’s mission in Afghanistan,'” he said.

    “Many in our government, even some surprisingly senior officials you think would know better, seem to believe that an inspector general should be their partner — or, more correctly, their silent partner,” he said. “In their opinion, my reports should be slipped in a sealed envelope in the dead of night under the door — never to see the light of day — because those reports could embarrass the administration, embarrass President Karzai, embarrass Afghanistan.”

    Read more: Watchdog says government has tried to silence him on Afghanistan - Stephanie Gaskell - POLITICO.com
    Goodness knows we should always put the Emperor's image ahead of everything else. Pretty soon he'll be demanding we all turn out for some hero worship a la the Norks.
  • May 9, 2013, 12:17 PM
    talaniman
    Its actually a better story than what it appears here Tom and you ruined it with your spin In my opinion. But have you read his actual work?

    Check this PDF out.

    http://www.sigar.mil/pdf/audits/2012...udit-12-14.pdf

    Its limited but this one though dated gives a clear picture as to why this guy is at the top of the food chain. He takes no prisoners and isn't intimidated. If the prez was going to hide something this isn't the guy to appoint.

    Discussion with Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction on Challenges Facing the US | Events | The Stimson Center | Pragmatic Steps for Global Security

    Credibility he has got.
  • May 9, 2013, 12:29 PM
    smoothy
    Where Tom and I ruined it??

    I was responding to your posts claiming Hillary is going to be nominated for Sainthood along with Obama.
  • May 9, 2013, 01:57 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I defend your rights to express your opinions no matter how far from reality they may be. What stuck in your ear and your theme song is your business too.

    How about the guy that made the video allegedly behind the Benghazi attack, should he be the patsy? I mean hey, the Emperor got someone throw in the slammer for the attack, right?
  • May 9, 2013, 02:01 PM
    talaniman
    What part of violating his probation agreement do you not understand? You know like all those criminals who lose rights when they get convicted?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ion-violation/

    Quote:

    Youssef served most of his 21-month prison sentence for using more than a dozen aliases and opening about 60 bank accounts to conduct a check fraud scheme, prosecutors said.

    After he was released from prison, Youssef was barred from using computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

    Federal authorities have said they believe Youssef is responsible for the film, but they haven't said whether he was the person who posted it online. He also wasn't supposed to use any name other than his true legal name without the prior written approval of his probation officer.
  • May 9, 2013, 02:22 PM
    paraclete
    Credibility you ain't got, do you actually check where your links go this one goes nowhere
  • May 9, 2013, 02:23 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Credibility you ain't got, do you actually check where your links go this one goes nowhere
    Must be blocked in your country.
  • May 9, 2013, 02:26 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Must be blocked in your country.

    No it is a single page with a header and no actual text on the subject
  • May 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
    NeedKarma
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    There are videos and text on the page.

    Attachment 43428
  • May 9, 2013, 02:40 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    What part of violating his probation agreement do you not understand? You know like all those criminals who lose rights when they get convicted?
    Let's see, Obama ran PSAs in Pakistan, pandered at the UN saying, “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam” and Hillary said "we will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted”??

    Right after that he was hauled away at midnight by 5 Sheriff deputies and thrown into a federal correctional facility on a probation violation without being summoned to court first. Coincidence, eh?

    Dude, he may be scum but that was no coincidence. Zero needed a scapegoat, and instead of going before the world to defend freedom he pandered and had him hauled off for the underlying offense of exercising his first amendment rights, KNOWING full well the video had nothing to do with it. The wrong guy is paying the price for this terrorist attack and you know it.
  • May 9, 2013, 03:19 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Let's see, Obama ran PSAs in Pakistan, pandered at the UN saying, “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam” and Hillary said "we will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted”???

    Right after that he was hauled away at midnight by 5 Sheriff deputies and thrown into a federal correctional facility on a probation violation without being summoned to court first. Coincidence, eh?

    Dude, he may be scum but that was no coincidence. Zero needed a scapegoat, and instead of going before the world to defend freedom he pandered and had him hauled off for the underlying offense of exercising his first amendment rights, KNOWING full well the video had nothing to do with it. The wrong guy is paying the price for this terrorist attack and you know it.

    What you are actually saying is this fellow has no more rights in the US than he has in his native country, but don't loose sight he is guilty of something, inciting to violence
  • May 9, 2013, 04:36 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what you are actually saying is this fellow has no more rights in the US than he has in his native country, but don't loose sight he is guilty of something, inciting to violence

    In America we don't jail people for expressing an opinion... or at least we used to not do that.
  • May 9, 2013, 04:58 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Youssef served most of his 21-month prison sentence for using more than a dozen aliases and opening about 60 bank accounts to conduct a check fraud scheme, prosecutors said.

    After he was released from prison, Youssef was barred from using computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

    Federal authorities have said they believe Youssef is responsible for the film, but they haven't said whether he was the person who posted it online.

    He also wasn't supposed to use any name other than his true legal name without the prior written approval of his probation officer.
    You are really good at skipping pertinent FACTS!
  • May 9, 2013, 05:05 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    In America we don't jail people for expressing an opinion...or at least we used to not do that.

    Come on, the fellow is a criminal, a fraudister, does society really object when the law catches up with such people, the movie he made was some sort of scam and the mistake he made was releasing it anywhere
  • May 9, 2013, 06:09 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    come on, the fellow is a criminal, a fraudister, does society really object when the law catches up with such people, the movie he made was some sort of scam and the mistake he made was releasing it anywhere

    Then everything Hollywood puts out is a fraud. Because none of it is real or accurate.

    Only Muslims think it's a crime to show other Muslims for what they really are.

    At least in this country... Sharia and its oppression of everyone and everything isn't the law.

    I can take a dump on a Koran if I want... and its my legal right to do so.
  • May 10, 2013, 01:57 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Then everything Hollywood puts out is a fraud. Because none of it is real or accurate.

    Only Muslims think its a crime to show other Muslims for what they really are.

    At least in this country...Sharia and its oppression of everyone and everything isn't the law.

    I can take a dump on a Koran if I want.....and its my legal right to do so.

    Go ahead but don't complain when someone blows up your house that is also a form of comment
  • May 10, 2013, 02:57 AM
    tomder55
    The guy is a political prisoner .He is in jail because Evita and Zero were intent on maintaining their lie .
  • May 10, 2013, 04:30 AM
    paraclete
    He is in jail because he broke the conditions and got caught anything else is perpheral OK he was a convenient smokescreen for a day andthere was useful disinformation or confusion or whatever

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