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Originally Posted by talaniman

They will never steal as much as a corporation does, or the fat cats who run them. At least poor criminals go to jail, rich criminals go yachting.

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Too late... since the 1930's... Trillions have been wasted on good-for nothing lazy welfare bums.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

How about the wefare bums and project dwellers that are robbing us blind, committing crimes and providing NOTHING to the general welfare of the country.

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Hi Smoothy,

Committing crimes should have legal consequences for anyone involved.

As for certain section sections of the community contributing nothing to the general welfare. What do your suggest? Because they are indebted to just about everyone; corporations, governments, taxpayers, we should suspend their rights?

Tut

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Originally Posted by TUT317

Hi Smoothy,

Committing crimes should have legal consequences for anyone involved.

As for certain section sections of the community contributing nothing to the general welfare. What do your suggest? Because they are indebted to just about everyone; corporations, governments, taxpayers, we should suspend their rights?

Tut

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Yes... as part of accepting welfare.. they should lose them until they get jobs and support themselves.

That would be unconstitutional. You cannot take someone's rights because they are poor, indepted, or jobless. Or LAZY, and dirty, stupid or a slob.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

That would be unconstitutional. You cannot take someones rights because they are poor, indepted, or jobless. Or LAZY, and dirty, stupid or a slob.

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Gee and yet its constitutional to do this with Child Molestors that have served their sentences and Convicted Felons... yet lazy people are somehow immune.

Lazy is not a crime.

smoothy don't do a Marie Antionette, if you don't feed the masses they become revolting. I know you think they are revolting, but you allow them to keep guns, very disturbing

Hello wingers:

I KNOW you saw 60 Minutes the other night... I KNOW it pissed you off. I KNOW you want to demonstrate about it... Come on down. You'll be in good company.

excon

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Originally Posted by paraclete

smoothy don't do a Marie Antionette, if you don't feed the masses they become revolting. I know you think they are revolting, but you allow them to keep guns, very disturbing

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They are a tiny minority... they will find the large majority is fed up with them very soon... we have far more guns than they do. They will lose.

As moronic as they are... I think they grasp that much.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Lazy is not a crime.

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Its also not an excuse... let the lazy starve. It will conserve resources for those who truly need them.

Unconstitutional is just an opinion of the court in charge.
We already restrict rights to religion ( anyone remember the Mormon wars from history, or when being part of the Church of England was an offense worthy of arrest during the revolution) Not to saw that today if my church wanted to actively support lets say Hermain Cain, we could lose our tax exempt status for doing so.

Right to bear arms, it is already taken away in many cities or states

Right to vote , that is of course controlled by the states and as noted felons have lost those rights.

Other things like welfare and food stamps are not rights, they are government programs that can be changed at a moment notice.

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Not to saw that today if my church wanted to actively support lets say Hermain Cain, we could lose our tax exempt status for doing so.

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That's the way it should be, right?

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Right to bear arms, it is already taken away in many cities or states

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You want anyone to be able to run around with fully automatic assault rifles? There are some small countries in Africa that you would LOVE!

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Right to vote , that is of course controlled by the states and as noted felons have lost those rights.

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This is a good thing, isn't it?

Hello again:

Do ANY of my right winged friends believe that putting down a popular movement with VIOLENCE ends it? If you do, and I think you do, the evidence that it doesn't ABOUNDS in the world...

What I REALLY think you think, is that the OWS is different than all the others going on in the world... You think because OUR protestors live in nice houses, they CAN'T be as pissed?? Really?

That's where I think you're making a big mistake.

excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

What about clean food and drink?

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I love good clean food and drink.

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Originally Posted by excon

Look, I'll engage you, but you don't seem to be able to get passed who the protesters are as people... I'm simply suggesting that you're missing the bigger picture... There's MORE going on here than dirt.

excon

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Hey, you're the one who said something about dirty people, I was just pointing out the health hazard the occupiers have become.

Look, as I've pointed out many times they began with the goal of zeroing in on their "one demand". What is it? If they can't give me their "one demand" there's nothing to talk about.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again:

Do ANY of my right winged friends believe that putting down a popular movement with VIOLENCE ends it?? If you do, and I think you do, the evidence that it doesn't ABOUNDS in the world...

What I REALLY think you think, is that the OWS is different than all the others going on in the world... You think because OUR protestors live in nice houses, they CAN'T be as pissed??? Really?

That's where I think you're making a big mistake.

excon

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All the violence I've seen on the lefty media news... has come from the Bowel Movement people.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

All the violence I've seen on the lefty media news....has come from the Bowel Movement people.

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Hello again, smoothy:

Then you're wearing your usual right wing blinders... I'm sure the cops were afraid of this 84 year old lady..

excon

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Unconstitutional is just an opinion of the court in charge.
We already restrict rights to religion ( anyone remember the Mormon wars from history, or when being part of the Church of England was an offense worthy of arrest during the revolution) Not to saw that today if my church wanted to actively support lets say Hermain Cain, we could lose our tax exempt status for doing so.

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My question is why would a church interested in the 1st amendment accept the tax exempt status ? Doesn't that quid pro quo mean that it becomes a state established religion ? It you want free exercise then lose the dependency on the state largess.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello wingers:

I KNOW you saw 60 Minutes the other night... I KNOW it pissed you off. I KNOW you wanna demonstrate about it... Come on down. You'll be in good company.

excon

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Yes and I've known that Madame Mimi is a fraud and an insider trading crook for a long time.
As I've said ;the outrage should be focused on Washington . Nothing I've seen from this confused movement changes my opinion.

They need leadership ;end these silly mass votes with handsignals.. Concentatrate on a focused doable goal ;and mobilize from where they can be effective... at the ballot box... just like they did in 2008 (yes this is the hopey changey Obama army out on the streets) .

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Then you're wearing your usual right wing blinders... I'm sure the cops were afraid of this 84 year old lady..

excon

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Gee... when CBS news... ground zero for Rathergate and Bush bashing by the left, shows recorded video of the Bowel Movement and the murders rapes and other crimes... you want me to ignore it because its not really happening?

Are you trying to say they have had an awakening and sudenly became a Righty news source over night?