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  • Jun 21, 2020, 02:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    Ronald Reagan would not enter the Oval Office without having his suit coat on. Bill Clinton couldn't enter without taking his pants off for his accompanying female suitor. Obama let four Americans die in Benghazi and then lied about it to promote his reelection. So yeah, that's also, as I hope you note, worth bolding.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 02:32 PM
    talaniman
    I would imagine we will be talking and blaming stuff on the dufus for years after he leaves too, as we hear the chant of Benghazi from the right wing noise machine constantly, after investigations and a few reports yielded nothing but we can't stop you from chanting though.

    Could be another reason to not listen to you too. Look at what you're talking about. 8 year old stuff and nada on the dufus stuff. TSK! TSK! Long time to be crying and complaining while ignoring the breaking of those precious commandments. Shouldn't they be posted in the oval office in BOLD writing?
  • Jun 21, 2020, 02:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    after investigations and a few reports yielded nothing
    No they have not.

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    Could be another reason to not listen to you too. Look at what you're talking about. 8 year old stuff and nada on the dufus stuff. TSK! TSK! long time to be crying and complaining while ignoring the breaking of those precious commandments. Shouldn't they be posted in the oval office in BOLD writing?
    Kind of like you ignoring the corruption of the two Clintons and Obama but going non-stop about Trump? In the words of Tal, Tsk Tsk.

    I would be ALL FOR posting the Ten Commandments in the Oval Office. You're the one who would oppose it
  • Jun 21, 2020, 02:51 PM
    talaniman
    Do it! Do it! Do it!!!
  • Jun 21, 2020, 02:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I would be ALL FOR posting the Ten Commandments in the Oval Office. You're the one who would oppose it

    I'm game! Trump probably doesn't even know what they are.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 03:37 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah, like Clinton and Obama have them all memorized. Stop kidding yourself.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 03:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah, like Clinton and Obama have them all memorized. Stop kidding yourself.

    Maybe Trump can find them in "TWO Corinthians"....
  • Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM
    talaniman
    The dufus can barely hold a bible let alone read it, but it makes for a nice photo op for his religious supporters who don't care if he breaks a commandment or two.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 06:02 PM
    jlisenbe
    Criticize Trump all you want. He deserves much of it, but just forget your "holy Joe" garbage in acting like Clinton and Obama were grads of schools of theology. Do you really think BC was reading sermons to Monica Lewinsky, or was praying for her with his corrupt advisors when they intended to crucify her before she reminded them of the dress with the stain on it? Was Obama gazing at the Ten Commandments when he told Susan Rice to lie on five Sunday morning news programs so he could be reelected?
  • Jun 21, 2020, 06:08 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Maybe Trump can find them in "TWO Corinthians"....
    Or Obama can talk about them in the 57 states he said he campaigned in.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 06:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Criticize Trump all you want. He deserves much of it, but just forget your "holy Joe" garbage in acting like Clinton and Obama were grads of schools of theology.

    Obama can sing "Amazing Grace" on key and from memory. Can Trump?

    Biden is congenial, empathetic, and emotionally stable. Is Trump?
  • Jun 21, 2020, 06:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Obama can sing "Amazing Grace" on key and from memory. Can Trump?
    I don't know that Obama can or that Trump cannot. One way or the other, lying like a dog is not made clean by singing a hymn.
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    Biden is congenial, empathetic, and emotionally stable. Is Trump?
    Except for those times when he was sexually abusing women or twisting the arms of the Ukranians to get what he wanted? And not to mention, of course, the times he can't remember where he is. How about all the abortions that take place that he cheers on? Yeah. He's a real stable guy.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 06:18 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Or Obama can talk about them in the 57 states he said he campaigned in.

    And that's why he won.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't know that Obama can

    There's a video of it. Look it up.
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    Except for those times when he was sexually abusing women or twisting the arms of the Ukranians to get what he wanted? And not to mention, of course, the times he can't remember where he is. How about all the abortions that take place that he cheers on? Yeah. He's a real stable guy.
    Trump did all that??? I know about the abuse of young girls at those "house parties," and we see almost every day in newscasts that he doesn't seem to know where he is. Oh, yeah, those abortions his party playmates had to get -- forgot about them!

    Stable he is not!
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    There's a video of it. Look it up.
    I don't care.

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    Trump did all that??? I know about the abuse of young girls at those "house parties," and we see almost every day in newscasts that he doesn't seem to know where he is. Oh, yeah, those abortions his party playmates had to get -- forgot about them!
    If you are wanting to say that BOTH Biden and Trump have scum in their backgrounds, then I'm with you. Otherwise, you're just being foolish.

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    Stable he is not!
    I agree. Biden is not stable.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you are wanting to say that BOTH Biden and Trump have scum in their backgrounds, then I'm with you. Otherwise, you're just being foolish.

    I agree. Biden is not stable.

    Trump's the scummy one. Just watch his gestures and facial expressions, and listen to his nonsensical ramblings. An unstable non-genius! His dad had to buy Donny's way through college. Actually, I almost (N.B. almost) feel sorry for him.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    Typical liberal dem. Biden, of course, has done nothing unethical for his son.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:38 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Typical liberal dem. Biden, of course, has done nothing unethical for his son.

    Don't forget. I'm a Republican who likes Ike.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. And I'm a spotted pony.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. And I'm a spotted pony.

    I noticed that but didn't say anything.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 07:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Thank you so much.
  • Jun 21, 2020, 08:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thank you so much.

    Well, it IS Father's Day!
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:26 AM
    jlisenbe
    https://patriot.imgix.net/29fcdd9b1c...20&auto=format
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:33 AM
    jlisenbe
    So Bolton says he won't vote for Trump, but also says he won't vote for Biden. Hmm.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:41 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't know that Obama can or that Trump cannot. One way or the other, lying like a dog is not made clean by singing a hymn.

    The dufus knows that, and won't sing a hymn, or quote the bible, but a picture holding one is just great for the true believers, such as yourself while he breaks the commandments of that bible.

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    Except for those times when he was sexually abusing women or twisting the arms of the Ukranians to get what he wanted? And not to mention, of course, the times he can't remember where he is. How about all the abortions that take place that he cheers on? Yeah. He's a real stable guy.
    You forgave the dufus for both woman abuse, and the Ukraine stuff, as well as endless lies for the last 3 years, so don't expect that to stick, and while choice is a peeve of yours the pandemic, and paying the rent are the issues to judge the candidates on that you wingers can ignore at your own peril. I don't think he wins a lot of latino and black voters over either. Did you see them at his rally? Wonder why?
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You forgave the dufus for both woman abuse, and the Ukraine stuff, as well as endless lies for the last 3 years, so don't expect that to stick, and while choice is a peeve of yours the pandemic, and paying the rent are the issues to judge the candidates on that you wingers can ignore at your own peril. I don't think he wins a lot of latino and black voters over either. Did you see them at his rally? Wonder why?
    I haven't forgiven Trump for anything. I have pointed out your utter hypocrisy for going on endlessly about the lies of Trump when Obama did the same thing and you were totally silent.

    He might win more black and Latino votes than you think he will.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 05:18 AM
    talaniman
    Nobody in history tells more lies than the dufus or is as scandalous as he has been. Maybe all politician skirt the truth or do controversial things even unpopular with certain groups but trying to compare the dufus with anybody else won't work except for the true dufus believer. That's fine because Obama for all his faults would have creamed the dufus in a head to head election. You can buy all the right wing spin you want my friend and evoke anybody you want, but truth is you have to accept a lot of unwholesome crap to get behind this unsavory character and his words and antics unseen in this level of American politics. Maybe you haven't forgiven him, but you sure got me fooled with the way you rail on everybody and give him a free pass for his sins (That's not forgiveness?). So while you point out my utter hypocrisy, and I point out yours, we have a wash.

    We'll see what the rest of the nation thinks about it though soon enough.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 06:54 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Nobody in history tells more lies than the dufus or is as scandalous as he has been
    Completely ridiculous statement. You have no way of knowing that.

    Quote:

    So while you point out my utter hypocrisy, and I point out yours, we have a wash.
    I'm glad to see you recognize your hypocrisy.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 10:03 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Completely ridiculous statement. You have no way of knowing that.

    EVERYBODY knows that and you don't have to consult Google to know that just listen to the dufus. He is without any doubt the greatest lying machine to ever be born.

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    I'm glad to see you recognize your hypocrisy.
    No I don't, I recognize you claiming my hypocrisy! Big difference. Of course I don't expect you to have a clue about that big difference so just keep talking crap, I expect that by now.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 10:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    EVERYBODY knows that and you don't have to consult Google to know that just listen to the dufus. He is without any doubt the greatest lying machine to ever be born.
    OK. Make a ridiculous statement, and then top it with an even more ridiculous statement. When you find Trump having sex with a young WH intern, and then making a concerted effort to make her appear to be a big liar, then get back with us. Or when Trump does official state business on an unsecured, amateur email server which is then promptly destroys once an investigation is begun, then let us know.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 11:16 AM
    talaniman
    Yeah that's nothing like screwing around with porn stars and playboy bunnies and paying for silence or services, take your pick. You can play ignorant of his words and antics and slob down all the red meat he feeds you till you pop, but doesn't change the FACT he is a lying cheating dufus, and a loudmouth bully and you support this unrepentant sinner.

    Now that's ridiculous Mr. let's go back to the bible ways and be better off. Start with him and get back to me when you get done.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 12:10 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I haven't forgiven Trump for anything.

    Other than just about every time you have cited Trump in your posts here.

    Quote:

    I have pointed out your utter hypocrisy for going on endlessly about the lies of Trump when Obama did the same thing and you were totally silent.
    The above was a reply to talinman with the bizarre comparison of equating Trump with Obama.


    Here's a taste of that "hypocrisy".

    1. Fascinating analysis by Forbes – hardly a left-wing mouthpiece

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidma.../#cd54eb41e176

    2. early lies - well-documented

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...trump-lie-list

    3. Trump's Covid-19 lies -

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

    4. Trump as Pinocchio

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...p&ruling=false

    5. Just in case you needed video proof

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs


    Get your head out of from you-know-where.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 12:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Yeah that's nothing like screwing around with porn stars and playboy bunnies and paying for silence or services, take your pick. You can play ignorant of his words and antics and slob down all the red meat he feeds you till you pop, but doesn't change the FACT he is a lying cheating dufus, and a loudmouth bully and you support this unrepentant sinner.
    I do not support him, but neither do I support your one-sided, silly idea that he is any worse morally than BC, HC, JB, or BO. They all have their skeletons to keep hidden. But go ahead with your "holier than thou" approach. You're going to anyway.

    I haven't really supported a pres since Reagan. Bush had some good qualities, but he was too soft as a conservative. I will defend Trump if I think he is right or is the subject of some of the ridiculous criticism that's on this site.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 12:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I do not support him, but neither do I support your one-sided, silly idea that he is any worse morally than BC, HC, JB, or BO.

    They're ancient history. Why do you keep dredging up their names??? And yes, Trump's lies -- the likes of which have never been seen before in this country.
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    I will defend Trump if I think he is right or is the subject of some of the ridiculous criticism that's on this site.
    Will never happen.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 12:38 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I will defend Trump if he is the subject of some of the ridiculous criticism that's on this site.

    See post #585 above. Ridiculous criticism?
  • Jun 22, 2020, 02:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    They're ancient history. Why do you keep dredging up their names??? And yes, Trump's lies -- the likes of which have never been seen before in this country.
    To point out the utter hypocrisy of some on this board. I can understand why you would not care for it.

    JB is ancient history? Glad to know that!!
  • Jun 22, 2020, 03:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    JB is ancient history? Glad to know that!!

    Nope, HC et al. are. The more you grouse about Joe, the more I'm considering Ridin' with Biden!
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The more you grouse about Joe, the more I'm considering Ridin' with Biden!
    Yeah, like you've really been having to think it over a lot.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 04:49 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah, like you've really been having to think it over a lot.

    Wouldn't want you to miss anything you've been asking about

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe - I haven't forgiven Trump for anything.

    Other than just about every time you have cited Trump in your posts here.

    Quote:

    I have pointed out your utter hypocrisy for going on endlessly about the lies of Trump when Obama did the same thing and you were totally silent.

    The above was a reply to talinman with the bizarre comparison of equating Trump with Obama.


    Here's a taste of that "hypocrisy".

    1. Fascinating analysis by Forbes – hardly a left-wing mouthpiece

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidma.../#cd54eb41e176

    2. early lies - well-documented

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...trump-lie-list

    3. Trump's Covid-19 lies -

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...avirus/608647/

    4. Trump as Pinocchio

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...p&ruling=false

    5. Just in case you needed video proof

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs


    Get your head out of from you-know-where. Those links will provide you with more than enough Trump lies to finally realize who/what you're supporting.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 05:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    I'll just put them in my lying folder along with Obama and his lies about Benghazi, more serious by far than any from Trump. Or BC's lies about a twenty year old intern he was having sex with. I guess you guys weren't paying attention back then.

    Like I've been saying. If you want to criticize, then be an equal opportunity criticizer.
  • Jun 22, 2020, 05:12 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'll just put them in my lying folder along with Obama and his lies about Benghazi, more serious by far than any from Trump. Or BC's lies about a twenty year old intern he was having sex with. I guess you guys weren't paying attention back then.

    Like I've been saying. If you want to criticize, then be an equal opportunity criticizer.

    We beat those horses to death when they happened years ago, investigated the hell out of both events. Now we got a new horse to beat when he is wrong. Except this is a repub horse that YOU like, so the only thing you can counter with are the dead horses we beat to death and investigated the hell out of YEARS AGO?

    You may not like it, which is just to bad but your horse WILL get beat to death, and investigated the hell out of! Real simple!

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