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  • Nov 19, 2013, 03:23 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    I have a question on this. In the U.S. it doesnt really go into an account and it doesnt really belong to you. Lets say as example the retirement age is 65. So to get to the benefits you have put money into you have to first reach that age. If you dont then you get nothing. The money accumulated can not be passed on to your heirs.

    Does this "consolidated revenue" that you speak of work in simaler fashion or can it be passed along to your heirs?


    Yes, we used to have a Social Security contribution, the idea no doubt borrowed from you. At some point this was rolled into the general taxation system "consolidated revenue" so Social Security contributions are no longer identifiable. At the same time everyone is entitled to an aged pension at 65, the level of benefit determined by the government and kept to a percentage of average weekly earnings. The reality is, you get much more back than you ever contributed. There is a cutoff on this so the wealthy don't participate. A later development is an employer funded superannuation contribution which is individually identifiable and maintained by a superannuation fund that contribution is 9% and rising
  • Nov 19, 2013, 03:26 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes, we used to have a Social Security contribution, the idea no doubt borrowed from you. at some point this was rolled into the general taxation system "consolidated revenue" so Social Security contributions are no longer identifiable. At the same time everyone is entitled to an aged pension at 65, the level of benefit determined by the government and kept to a percentage of average weekly earnings. There is a cutoff on this so the wealthy don't participate. A later development is an employer funded superannuation contribution which is individually identifiable and maintianed by a superannuation fund that contribution is 9% and rising

    What happens to the money if you were to pass away before reaching 65 years of age ?
  • Nov 19, 2013, 03:40 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    What happens to the money if you were to pass away before reaching 65 years of age ?

    It remains in consolidated revenue, for the superannuation scheme it is part of your estate. That scheme originated as a productivity trade off for wages forgone
  • Nov 29, 2013, 10:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    According to that great philosopher Kanye West, the first billion dollar campaign President is a failure because blacks ain't got no money or connections like Jews do.

    Kanye West on Obama's Failures:
  • Nov 29, 2013, 11:10 AM
    NeedKarma
    Haha, people listen to Kanye West on subjects other than music.
  • Nov 29, 2013, 12:01 PM
    talaniman
    They listen to Ted Cruz about hooking people on sugar, while he has a stash of his own sugar.

    Ted Cruz Has a Health Insurance Plan from Goldman Sachs - The Wire

    A guy who got his trying to keep everybody else from getting anything?
  • Nov 29, 2013, 02:19 PM
    speechlesstx
    Don't recall anyone holding the position that they want to deny healthcare for others. Could you point out where Cruz has advocated that position?
  • Nov 29, 2013, 03:42 PM
    talaniman
    That's what repealing Obama Care means. Try and keep up.
  • Nov 29, 2013, 04:12 PM
    paraclete
    yes slow arn't they, but then it goes with backwoods thinking
  • Nov 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
    excon
    Hello again, tal:

    If you recall, our right wing friends ALWAYS said that Obamacare wasn't needed because EVERYBODY already got first rate treatment. Therefore, they REFUSE to believe that a repeal of Obamacare would hurt anybody..

    Irgo, Ted Cruz wasn't denying them care.. He was offering them the wonderful care that they already had.

    excon
  • Nov 30, 2013, 04:35 PM
    tomder55
    "We're evaluating why it is exactly that I didn't know soon enough that it wasn't going to work the way it needed to." (the emperor ) Answer...... BS he knew.
  • Nov 30, 2013, 04:47 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    "We're evaluating why it is exactly that I didn't know soon enough that it wasn't going to work the way it needed to." (the emperor ) Answer...... BS he knew.

    It's already been proven he knew but the emperor will never let reality get in the way of a good lie.
  • Nov 30, 2013, 05:22 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's already been proven he knew but the emperor will never let reality get in the way of a good lie.

    some people are obviously a little slow, and a little slow to react, bureaucracy and all that, noone believes their favoured course of action is going to fail, but everyone knows there will be delays, and snafu is the norm
  • Nov 30, 2013, 06:16 PM
    speechlesstx
    Sorry to disagree, but this regime believes we're too stupid to notice their sleight of hand.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 06:55 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to place EVIDENCE of my aversion to reality...

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

    THAT'S how I WAGE my liberal atheistic WAR on Christmas.. Please, don't tell Bill O'Reilly...

    excon
  • Dec 3, 2013, 07:12 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to place EVIDENCE of my aversion to reality...

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

    THAT'S how I WAGE my liberal atheistic WAR on Christmas.. Please, don't tell Bill O'Reilly...

    excon


    First, a few wackos saying Merry Christmas doesn't mean there is no war on Christmas.

    Second, Merry Christmas.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 07:30 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    First, a few wackos saying Merry Christmas doesn't mean there is no war on Christmas.
    It's true.. This was subterfuge. I was hoping to catch you napping.. Of course, I'm still required to serve a tour of duty in the war on Christmas.

    Was there a security leak??

    excon
  • Dec 3, 2013, 07:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    If there is a war on Christmas it seems we're mostly winning.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 12:50 PM
    speechlesstx
    A judge has said the Detroit bankruptcy may proceed.

    Quote:

    "It is indeed a momentous day," U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Steven Rhodes said at the end of a 90-minute summary of his ruling. "We have here a judicial finding that this once-proud city cannot pay its debts. At the same time, it has an opportunity for a fresh start. I hope that everybody associated with the city will recognize that opportunity."
    I have my doubts.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 01:03 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    This is as good a place as any to place EVIDENCE of my aversion to reality...

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

    THAT'S how I WAGE my liberal atheistic WAR on Christmas.. Please, don't tell Bill O'Reilly...
    \
    By all means let's continue our war on non-christmas. MERRY CHRISTMAS! just getting in early
  • Dec 3, 2013, 01:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    Hey, guys! Until 12:01 a.m. December 25th, it's Advent!! Now, let's light our first Advent candle together.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:03 PM
    NeedKarma
    It's Christmas time - time for Santa Claus!
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:26 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    A judge has said the Detroit bankruptcy may proceed.



    I have my doubts.

    tough day for the public unions.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:30 PM
    paraclete
    don't give me that crap, satan claus has about as much to do with christmas as the easter bunny has to do with easter, SC is a thinly disguised pagan god
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Bah humbug! Dear Santa is the personification of love and unselfish giving, of sharing with friends and even strangers, that jolly old elf who puts smiles on our faces and gives spirits a lift.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:48 PM
    talaniman
    Detroit is a good example of taxation without representation.

    The Detroit Bankruptcy | Demos

    Quote:

    By cutting revenue sharing with the city, the state effectively reduced its own budget challenges on the backs of the taxpayers of Detroit (and other cities). These cuts account for nearly a third of the city's revenue losses between FY 2011 and FY 2013, coming on the heels of the revenue losses from the Great Recession and tipping the city into the cash flow crisis that it is now experiencing. Furthermore, the Legislature placed strict limits on the city's ability to raise revenue itself to offset these losses.
    Quote:

    •The emergency manager's plan to pay the swap termination fees outside of the bankruptcy process should be abandoned. The bank counterparties should be made to bear the consequences of the original swap transaction, and they should be pushed to forego their projected profit (the measure of the termination payment), given the large profits they have already earned as a result of the unusually low interest rates that resulted from the financial crash. The emergency manager should also press for prorated rebates on the premiums for insurance on the swaps. And, if necessary, the state should be enlisted to guarantee the city's swaps to avoid payment of termination fees. The termination fees will become smaller as interest rates rise over time, which they are likely to do.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 03:59 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Bah humbug! Dear Santa is the personification of love and unselfish giving, of sharing with friends and even strangers, that jolly old elf who puts smiles on our faces and gives spirits a lift.
    Rubbish, as if Jesus isn't a sufficient personification of love and selfless giving. You want to believe in elves and fairies go ahead but design your own feast day/holiday, oh I forgot, Christians stole this one from the pagans, must a reason for the pagan influences.. Frankly an army of red clad fakes accompanied by a bevvy of screaming kids doesn't put a smile on my face
  • Dec 3, 2013, 04:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Both Jesus and Santa come into my house.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 04:03 PM
    paraclete
    How unconfortable they must feel knowing you have a foot in both camps
  • Dec 3, 2013, 04:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Who is "they"? Jesus likes Santa.
  • Dec 3, 2013, 04:19 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Jesus likes Santa.
    I can find no evidence for that assertion
  • Dec 4, 2013, 05:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    Evidence isn't a requirement for belief so you're OK there.
  • Dec 4, 2013, 06:07 AM
    speechlesstx
    Kind of like man-made climate change.
  • Dec 4, 2013, 01:11 PM
    paraclete
    exactly like man made climate change and man made correction of climate change
  • Dec 5, 2013, 07:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Mark Pryor, in his latest bid to protect his seat in light of his Obamacare vote, has rolled out a new ad.



    Apparently he's now all about God, guns and gays.
  • Dec 5, 2013, 08:01 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    What??? You think only Republicans can be squishes?

    excon
  • Dec 5, 2013, 08:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    What??? You think only Republicans can be squishes?

    excon

    I can just imagine if a Republican had run this ad...
  • Dec 5, 2013, 08:36 AM
    talaniman
    One will in a blue state. He will be for Obama care and raising the minimum wage, IF he gets enough money for an ad at all.

    Republican Party struggles with fundraising in blue state Connecticut
  • Feb 1, 2014, 06:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Obama's energy Secretary helpfully reminded us our energy boom has a transport problem.

    Ability to transport U.S. oil, gas lags booming output: Energy Secretary | Reuters

    Meanwhile, the regime stonewalls Keystone for no apparent reason...
  • Feb 15, 2014, 06:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    For those who keep hollering that people are running from us...seems people keep running from unions. Turns out they like their jobs and want to keep their jobs.

    VW Workers in Chattanooga Reject Auto Workers Union - WSJ.com

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