Putin has trumped Obama. He has told him the consequences of attacking Syria. It is about time someone told america to mind their own business

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Putin has trumped Obama. He has told him the consequences of attacking Syria. It is about time someone told america to mind their own business

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Maybe China and Russia need to mind their own business as well... our problem is one half black blohard.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

one half black blohard.

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Half white

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

half white

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Toe MAY toe... toe MAH toe...

Whether he is a half breed or not, he should have had the opportunity to unite your nation not divide it but the question isn't anything to do with your internal politics, it has to do with who's law rules, the law of international treaties or the law of the jungle. Syria is not bound by any convention on the use of lethal gas so all you can do is expel it from the UN and take such santions as is possible but you can't use lethal force

He had the opportunity... but the man was too stupid to avail himself of it. He acted like a petty thin skinned punk... with a pathological NEED to get revenge for every perceived slight. Which he started before he ever got elected by throwing every reporter that didn't speak glowingly of every word he spoke off the campaign jet.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

He acted like a petty thin skinned punk...with a pathological NEED to get revenge for every perceived slight.

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No, we certainly don't want to repeat history. Thank goodness, Obama doesn't have to avenge his daddy.

Well he thinks he has to avenge someone

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No, we certainly don't want to repeat history. Thank goodness, Obama doesn't have to avenge his daddy.

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The whole premise of his political life is based on that premise. I've read 'Dreams From My Father'... his auto-bio ghost written by Bill Ayers . The major factor influencing the emperor's actions and policies is his anti-colonialist mindset, which he inherited from his father. He sees America and just another colonial power that has to be brought down to size.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

the whole premise of his political life is based on that premise. I've read 'Dreams From My Father' ....his auto-bio ghost written by Bill Ayers . The major factor influencing the emperor's actions and policies is his anti-colonialist mindset, which he inherited from his father. He sees America and just another colonial power that has to be brought down to size.

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He's doing a good job of that.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

He's doing a good job of that.

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Exactly why stop him

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Maybe China and Russia need to mind their own business as well....our problem is one half black blohard.

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Would that be a 50/50 split? Perhaps a 65/35, or better still a 60/40.

Why does it matter. The last think any one wants is an extremeist victory in Syria, where we are confused is we don't want a shiite victory either

If the international community balks at condemning the use of gas by Assad, then we have no international community. It's a sham. Even if you are against military intervention, what's stopping leaders across the world from giving voice in strong terms publicly to this atrocity?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

If the international community balks at condemning the use of gas by Assad, then we have no international community. Its a sham. Even if you are against military intervention, what's stopping leaders across the world from giving voice in strong terms publicly to this atrocity?

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Then why hasn't the emperor taken his case before the UN ? Even in to worse days of the cold war ,when we knew every resolution would get a Soviet veto ,the US would bring up issues like this for debate. Why isn't Kerry there presenting the evidence ?

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then why hasn't the emperor taken his case before the UN

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But you hate the UN, why do they suddenly matter?

Don't ask me... Tal is the one who made the comment that the international community is a "sham" . I think the UN is a feckless organization . But I thought all those who revere it would at least use it in cases like this . Heck ,even your hated GW Bush had enough of a decent respect to the opinions of mankind that he went before the UN to argue his case for the invasion of Iraq. J F'n Kerry ;when he was a Vietnam war protester ,argued that US troops should never be deployed without UN approval . So I ask again ;why hasn't the emperor taken his case before the UN ?

The Russians are like the conservatives here... obstructionist. But no doubt the Russians will be presented with all kinds of facts. Seems if Putin were the tough guy he wants the world to believe a simple "cool it with the gas you idiot!". Hell he could text that and save us all this BS!!

And Tom this issue is before the UN, and has been for a while but those sissies from the other countries are afraid to rattle a few cages in public.

My question is when will the American people be presented with the FACTS ? Monday Congress is back in session .With or without a resolution the emperor will make a national address on Tuesday to let us know it's bombs away on Wednesday ,Sept 11.

Tom why do you have a government? So that the people you elected can sift the facts and formulate a course of action. You want the people to know everything, but without a vast body of knowledge they can't discern it. BO has decided to place the matter for debate, this is a correct course of action even if failing to abide by a UN decision is not.

You can't do anything in Syria without shifting the balance in favour of the rebels, the very people who are opposed to you. Learn the lesson of Iraq and leave it alone