Damn, you are right! My bad, its Tom who usually decries the "nanny" state. My comments were related to present day corporate slavery. :(

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its Tom who usually decries the "nanny" state.

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I wonder how they'll do with the Wiener nanny state?

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here was my last comment on this thred
What a suprise ! a union thug doesn't like that workers aren't filtered through his organization. Again , no one is saying an entry level job at Walmart is a career ..and even if the Vets decide to make working at Walmart their career ,they come into the job with a skill set that gives them an edge when advancement opportunities present themselves.
Is that the one that gives you the notion I want slavery here ?

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ID please :)

You have always advocated for capitalism, which is a fancy way to hide the fact it's corporate slavery.

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ID please :)

You have always advocated for capitalism, which is a fancy way to hide the fact it's corporate slavery.

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And that's a very jaded and inaccurate view of capitalism.

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and that's a very jaded and inaccurate view of capitalism.

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How many times have I said the business model is broken and capitalism has been corrupted?

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Hello tal:

I wonder how they'll do with the Wiener nanny state?

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Yeah the poor people of NY have a heck of a choice... the candidate from the Clintoon machine ;or one of the candidates from Tammney Hall (forget the Republic.. he's not even on the radar... for anyone who cares ;his name is Joseph Lhota )

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yeah the poor people of NY have a heck of a choice..

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Steve has a couple rooms. Then you'd have Rick Perry and Louie Gohmert.. Ya, hee!

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Hello again, tom:

Steve has a couple rooms. Then you'd have Rick Perry and Louie Gohmert.. Ya, hee!

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And a good economy and freedom.

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Hello again, tom:

Steve has a couple rooms. Then you'd have Rick Perry and Louie Gohmert.. Ya, hee!

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Or I could move to New Jersey and watch the Dumbo and Jumbo act.

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and freedom.

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I LOVE the way right wingers talk about freedom. You're free UNLESS you're on their list. Freedom for thee, but NOT for me ISN'T freedom. It's a right wing perversion of the word.

To wit: if I tried to express some my "freedom" in YOUR state, I'd be charged with a felony. That AIN'T freedom. You should be ashamed that a lefty has to lecture you about freedom.

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And while arguing there is no violation of equal protection for everyone targeted by the IRS... you fell right in that one.

I don't know why this is so difficult to understand . The highest levels of the IRS have already admitted what they did. An IG audit confirmed it . The only thing left to discover is how deep into the White House this goes.

They have also confirmed it wasn't politically motivated targeting, so why is that FACT from the IG not important?

That's supposed to make it better ? That they intentionally denied them equal treatment because of the political positions they take ? What is this ? Cuba ?

So just give it to them without verification or investigation. I guess you are entitled to a loophole huh?

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They have also confirmed it wasn't politically motivated targeting, so why is that FACT from the IG not important?

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I must have missed that confirmation, it was bureaucratese in blaming "ineffective management" which does not preclude a political aspect.

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So just give it to them without verification or investigation. I guess you are entitled to a loophole huh?

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This was not an investigation or an attempt at verification. In most of these cases ,the very delay was the equivalent of a denial . Some are still waiting for their approval . Some withdrew their application.
Mission accomplished . For political reasons the Obots were able the deny their status during the 2012 campaign season. At the same time the word went out that the Tea Party had lost it's steam. Well yeah... a government agency ;for political considerations took the steam right out of the movement .

Sorry audit was the better term.

Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review

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All of these officials stated that the criteria were not influenced by any individual or organization outside the IRS. Instead, the Determinations Unit developed and implemented inappropriate criteria in part due to insufficient oversight provided by management. Specifically, only first-line management approved references to the Tea Party in the BOLO listing criteria before it was implemented. As a result, inappropriate criteria remained in place for more than 18 months. Determinations Unit employees also did not consider the public perception of using politically sensitive criteria when identifying these cases. Lastly, the criteria developed showed a lack of knowledge in the Determinations Unit of what activities are allowed by I.R.C. § 501(c)(3) and I.R.C. § 501(c)(4) organizations.

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I watched it live on CSpan. The IG was asked about political motivation and connection, by the congress, and he said he found none and its on record.

It's come to light that Terry McAuliffe, former DNC chair, man who abandoned his wife while she was in labor to attend a party, left her and his newborn in the car on the way home from the hospital to attend a fundraiser, the guy who makes sure the little woman has plenty of credit cards to go shopping, the Democrat that wants to run Virginia - has the ultimate blame Bush story.

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In a May 2001 interview with C-SPAN, titled the “Life and Career of Terry McAuliffe,” the former Democratic National Committee chairman says one of the “reasons” his father, Jack, died was “he could not go into a new year knowing that a Republican was actually moving into the White House.”

While his father was in the hospital, McAuliffe’s mother “went and came back in five minutes later, and he had passed away. And I told the story, you know, I gave at the eulogy at his funeral, and there are many reasons why people thought Jack had died,” McAuliffe told C-SPAN. “He was 83 years old. And I said the main reason is that he could not go into a new year knowing that a Republican was actually moving into the White House. I just don’t think he could’ve handled that.”

“He had eight great years,” McAullife continued. “President Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton were so nice to my mother and father, they’d come down all the time. So he had a great eight years when President Clinton and Vice President Gore were in office, and he just wasn’t going into a new year with a Democrat not being in the White House Steve, he just couldn’t handle it.”

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Yes folks, Bush killed his dad.

Totally unaware of the irony in being the absolute worse state in personal and economic freedom partly due to having the highest taxes in the nation, Gov. Cuomo is announcing "tax-free zones" to spur growth.

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New York has worked to develop a technology industry centred around its universities, including creating a $50m venture capital fund to invest in new companies. The tax-free initiative would help keep those businesses in the state, Mr Cuomo said, adding that as many as three-quarters of tech start-ups leave within a year.

“If you just reduced the loss of jobs, that would be a home run. We create start-up businesses. Right now we just can’t keep them,” Mr Cuomo told the Financial Times. “They get their legs under them, so to speak, then they leave for a lower-tax environment.”

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You don't say.