Fact is during the last four years you guys have pushed more bills to take away choice, that was granted by the courts YEARS ago, than jobs, and have obstucted all the ways to make jobs so far. Things we know have worked in the past.

The republican platform has always been repeal everything back to the New DEAL, nothing new there.

That why all the old fights still have to be fought. AGAIN. There is no difference between republicans and that idiot AKIN, except he said what you guys are scared to say in public.

I mean Ryan never ran from him when they were trying to redefine rape, just now since he is VP hopeful, and the cat is out of the bag.

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Fact is during the last four years you guys have pushed more bills to take away choice, that was granted by the courts YEARS ago.

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Fact is your side only likes "choice" when it fits in their little box. Much like hypocrisy of screaming equal pay while the White House and Democrats in congress themselves pay women less than men. You guys are fighting your own war on women by denying them equal pay and assuming all women fit your stereotypes and want you to speak for them.

You can try and define all of this as taking away choice all you want but that's an outright and you all know it. All of the efforts are an attempt to give the child who has no choice a chance. If you don't like the fact that we believe babies deserve a chance to live you're just going to have to get over it, because some of us will NEVER stop fighting for children.

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some of us will NEVER stop fighting for children.

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What happens after the child is born and needs some of those social services that were taken away? Who will pay for diapers and food?

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What happens after the child is born and needs some of those social services that were taken away? Who will pay for diapers and food?

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We've had this conversation dozens of times. Do you have a new question?

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We've had this conversation dozens of times. Do you have a new question?

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I don't recall ever seeing a satisfactory answer.

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We've had this conversation dozens of times. Do you have a new question?

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And the abortion question hasn't been discussed ad nauseum??

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I don't recall ever seeing a satisfactory answer.

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I don't think any answer will satisfy you.

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And the abortion question hasn't been discussed ad nauseum?????

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I didn't start it, excon did.

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I don't recall ever seeing a satisfactory answer.

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Hello Carol:

You're right. What's funny, is the right wingers support the fetus until its born, then the Democrats take over... It's a perfect hand off.

I also wonder how they can call themselves right to lifers when it's the Republicans who overwhelmingly support the death penalty... It makes no sense to me..

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What happens after the child is born and needs some of those social services that were taken away? Who will pay for diapers and food?

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OK, what are these social services we're allegedly taking away that's going to deny a child food and diapers? I don't know of any.

Your question is just a trap intended end the discussion by reaching a preconceived conclusion that we don't care for the child after it's born. Sorry, I'm not falling for it.

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OK, what are these social services we're allegedly taking away that's going to deny a child food and diapers? I don't know of any.

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Hello again, Steve:

In case you haven't noticed, Romney is going to give a huge tax break to the already wealthy, and pay for it by cutting services to the poor. If that's not denying poor children food and diapers, I don't know what is.

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I also wonder how they can call themselves right to lifers when it's the Republicans who overwhelmingly support the death penalty... It makes no sense to me..

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Dear excon:

Don't they want assault rifles and other guns to be readily available too? Don't guns kill?

Carol

How about the trillions in cuts to medicaid, food stamps, or the growing number of kids who need those services that Romney, and Ryan has proposed. That's what you are voting for.

In addition you also by your vote you support deep cuts in pell grants and tuition for those young people who don't have rich daddies to pay for an education as a way to escape poverty. Your vote for Mitt makes sure HIS kids have an inheritance,as they already do, but you insure YOUR kids do NOT!

So while you tell a female what to do with her body, right or wrong, you also make sure she is poor, and her kids are even poorer, as you advocate for less safety net, that likely, you or your kids or grand kids will have to use.

If the business cycle is what you count on to help them, you are in trouble. As good as the church is, even they cannot help them all. So when the guy you want to be president says he and his buddies WILL get a raise, you better make sure you ask who pays for it, and how, and for how long because YOUR kids future depends on it.

If you only see things one way, you may miss that. Think before you give someone YOUR future, or that of YOUR kids. You support Worldvision, but not your own? Say it ain't so!

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Hello again, Steve:

In case you haven't noticed, Romney is going to give a huge tax break to the already wealthy, and pay for it by cutting services to the poor. If that's not denying poor children food and diapers, I don't know what is.

excon

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I don't want clichés, I want specifics. What social services is he taking away that would deny children food and diapers?

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If you only see things one way, you may miss that. Think before you give someone YOUR future, or that of YOUR kids. You support Worldvision, but not your own? Say it ain't so!

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Straw man.

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Cute, didn't you call that sort of thing childish or something like that? Akin has been thoroughly denounced for his idiocy. Move along.

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Akin has been thoroughly denounced for his idiocy. Move along.

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Why is he still around?

Read Romney, or Ryans budget, (YOU HAVE LINKS) or better yet, who pays for Romneys tax cuts? We can quickly find out who makes the straw arguments if you do. I say its YOU!!

Can you answer the question or NOT? I also say you don't want to. You guys never do. Here is an easier question, who paid for Bushes tax cuts? Bet you have no clue!

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Why is he still around?

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Nearly everyone has asked him to step down, his funding has been cut off, what do you want us to do - kill him?