Obamacare Valentine's? Are you freakin' kidding me?
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Obamacare Valentine's? Are you freakin' kidding me?
Attachment 45665
who do they heart ? The seniors they screwed with the draconian Medicare cuts ? ...or the Pajama Boy types they are trying to sucker into over paying ?
I'm certainly lovin' my higher premiums. deductibles and copays. After 3 hospital stays for my wife since Christmas it came at an especially good time, too.
There you see, without the ACA your insurer would have disowned you as an unacceptable risk. Has anyone realsed that health insurance is like life insurance, you arn't supposed to collect
No sir, you're wrong. Her insurer cannot drop her unless the premium goes unpaid and the ACA had nothing to do with that. Obamacare just made her insurance worse and more expensive. get your facts right.
Obviously NJ Democrats have nothing better to do.
New Jersey Lawmakers Want To Rename The Sea Of Japan
Now they're using cuddly animals to shill for Obamacae in their embarrassing series of ads. Rick Moran comments...
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The PJ Tatler » Cat Lovers Outraged by the Use of Kittens to Sell Obamacare
Henrietta Fourpaws of Felix, IL, made the point that the ad was stupid, but also claimed that exploiting young kittens in this fashion was cruel and unjust.“
Just look at their faces,” she said. “They’re bored and unhappy. Wouldn’t you be if you were forced to shill for a total disaster? It’s like putting them in the front seat of an Edsel.”
Gladys Purrdy of Morris, PA, was even more forceful in her denunciation of the ad. “How dare they use such beautiful creatures for a grubby enterprise like Obamacare,” she said.
She added, “Besides, the kittens make poor sales critters for Obamacare. Everyone knows that cats are way too independent to obey the individual mandate, plus, they’re far too smart to believe the president after he told us ‘If you like your vet, you can keep your vet. Period.’”
With a nod to Democrat aversion to reality, it's come to this...John "I want a Nobel and will throw Israel under the bus to get it" Kerry has informed us that the Syrian talks are in trouble thanks to Iran, Hezbollah and Russia.
Gee, who could have seen that coming?
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Although Russia publicly supports the idea of a transitional government, Kerry said he regretted that increased support for Assad from Iran, Hezbollah and Russia had encouraged the Syrian president in his intransigence.
Hello again, Steve:
Being a no guy again, huh.. Your party does that well..
Since you don't like what Kerry/Obama are doing, what exactly WOULD you DO??? Do you want us to intervene? How? Really??? You think the American public is ready for a THIRD Middle East war????
If not intervention, what do you suggest??? Or, are you only able to say NO!!!
Oh, I'm sure you'll resort to your usual tactics telling me that you've already EXPLAINED what you'll do somewhere else, and it's up to ME to find it... But, I ain't gonna let you get away with that again...
I wanna HEAR what the right wing PLAN is for a Middle East that is falling apart??? SPECIFICS, if you please.
Right.... I thought so....
excon
Dude, I am not the one running the country (into the ground). Dodging the fact that this regime keeps screwing things up, wasting money, driving up prices etc. -not to mention continually LYING to us - solves nothing.
At least SOMEONE is TRYING to hold them accountable while you just continue to make excuses, enable this nonsense and blame people who have no control for not doing something about it, or call us racists for complaining.
Your argument is ridiculous and unhelpful, YOUR side has the power to change things but instead you fling crap and twiddle your thumbs.
Syria ? I'd give material support to the emerging autonomous Kurdish/Christian region in Hasakah province and let the rest of them fight to the death. The people in the region have already done the work of expelling AQ jihadists from the province ,and are beginning to establish a functioning adminstering governance of the province outside of the regime and the jihadists influence.
You claim you aren't the problem someone else is, but for sure you haven't been part of the solution. And you had more chances to be. You blew it too!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Excuse me, we have both offered solutions AND warned you this sort of thing would happen but again, YOUR side is in control so it is YOUR side who deservedly gets the blame. But what would one expect from supporters of a regime that "reset" relations with Russia, appoints ambassadors that are total flakes, leaves our good guys hung out to dry in Benghazi and has a Secretary of State more concerned with his Nobel than our interests, but to shift blame and repeat the same excuses?Quote:
You claim you aren't the problem someone else is, but for sure you haven't been part of the solution. And you had more chances to be. You blew it too!
Just can't admit Obama has taken some of your good ideas but rejected others, and gotten re elected. Evidently as a country we have decided who best to be president for now, so live with being out voted.
We have elections every two years so you should be familiar with the process by now. You have a right to make noise. And vote for more noise makers. Your noise is duly noted. Unfortunately the world hasn't ended yet. No doubt when it does you guys can fix it right?
You're a broken record, and no one listens to broken records. Although it really is a little disturbing you're so willing to live with such incompetence. Just can't bring yourself to admit the Messiah is a flop.
What can I say? Win elections and be a targets for the losers. Comes with the territory.
So what's the problem? You just hate it when we show the ignorance and projection is on your side.
I don't think ignorance and projection take sides speech, they are well represented in all areas of political persuasion
that's what happens when you take all the oil out
So a Wikipedia-like site and some blogger blame it on fracking but your original article is more accurate, "Meanwhile, scientists have been left scratching their heads over the quakes, which are becoming more frequent each day."
Wastewater Injection Spurred Biggest Earthquake Yet, Says Study | Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Barnett Shale: UPDATE: Chesapeake disputes SMU research about earthquakesQuote:
Scientists have linked a rising number of quakes in normally calm parts of Arkansas, Texas, Ohio and Colorado to below-ground injection. In the last four years, the number of quakes in the middle of the United States jumped 11-fold from the three decades prior, the authors of the Geology study estimate. Last year, a group at the U.S. Geological Survey also attributed a remarkable rise in small- to mid-size quakes in the region to humans. The risk is serious enough that the National Academy of Sciences, in a report last year called for further research to “understand, limit and respond” to induced seismic events. Despite these studies, wastewater injection continues near the Oklahoma earthquakes.
Where have you been the last few years?
I've been hanging out in a place loaded with energy activity where I've never felt an earthquake.
What was that, 1 site had noticeable seismic activity from fracking and 8 from wastewater injection? What is that statistically?Quote:
In the past several years, some energy technologies that inject or extract fluid from the Earth, such as oil and gas development and geothermal energy development, have been found or suspected to cause seismic events, drawing heightened public attention. Although only a very small fraction of injection and extraction activities among the hundreds of thousands of energy development sites in the United States have induced seismicity at levels noticeable to the public, understanding the potential for inducing felt seismic events and for limiting their occurrence and impacts is desirable for state and federal agencies, industry, and the public at large. To better understand, limit, and respond to induced seismic events, work is needed to build robust prediction models, to assess potential hazards, and to help relevant agencies coordinate to address them.
- Research has provided a better understanding of the factors that induce seismicity. Although existing faults and fractures are generally stable, changes in subsurface pore pressure, for example due to the injection or extraction of fluid from Earth's subsurface, may change the crustal stresses acting on a nearby fault and induce a seismic event. Net fluid balance appears to have the most direct correlation to the magnitude of induced seismic events, thus, energy technology projects that maintain a balance between the amount of fluid injected and the amount withdrawn may induce fewer felt seismic events than technologies that do not maintain balance.
- Although the general mechanisms that create induced seismic events are well understood, scientists are currently unable to accurately predict the magnitude or occurrence of such events due to the lack of comprehensive data on the complex natural rock systems at particular energy development sites. Predictions of induced seismicity at specific energy development sites will continue to rely on both theoretical modeling, and data and observations from measurements made in the field.
- Of all the energy-related injection and extraction activities conducted in the United States, only a very small fraction have induced seismicity at levels noticeable to the public (that is, above magnitude 2.0). Different energy technologies typically use different injection rates and pressures, fluid volumes, and injection duration—factors that affect the likelihood and magnitude of an induced earthquake.
- Geothermal energy—the use of heat from the Earth as an energy source—usually attempts to maintain a balance between fluid volumes extracted for energy production and those replaced by injection, which reduces the potential for induced seismicity. However, site-specific characteristics can make a difference. For example, the high-pressure hydraulic fracturing undertaken to produce geothermal energy from hot, dry rocks has caused seismic events that are large enough to be felt.
- Conventional oil and gas development extracts oil, gas, and water from pore spaces in rocks in subsurface reservoirs. Incidences of felt induced seismicity from conventional oil and gas development appear to be very rare.
- Shale formations may contain oil, gas, and/or liquids. Shales have very low permeability that prevent these fluids from easily flowing into a well bore, and so wells may be drilled horizontally and hydraulically fractured to allow hydrocarbons to flow up the well bore. Hydraulic fracturing to date has been confirmed as the cause for small, felt seismic events at one location in the world. The process of hydraulic fracturing a well as presently implemented for shale gas recovery does not pose a high risk for inducing felt seismic events.
- Tens of thousands of waste water disposal wells have been drilled in the United States to dispose of the water generated by geothermal and oil and gas production operations, including shale gas production. Water injection for disposal has been suspected or determined a likely cause for induced seismicity at approximately 8 sites in the past several decades. However, the long-term effects of increasing the number of waste water disposal wells on the potential for induced seismicity are unknown, and wells used only for waste water disposal usually do not undergo detailed geologic review prior to injection, in contrast to wells for enhanced oil recovery and secondary recovery.
If it happens to your house, what is that statistically? Constant earth tremors are just statistics huh? Okay. 200 earth quakes of 2.5 is rare and nothing to worry about? Okay.
It's a valid question, do you want to deal with it?
Face it Tal, the fear-mongering is unfounded and unsupported by the facts - just as Obama blaming global warming for the Central California drought is unsupported by the facts. You expect us to be happy with soaring energy prices over the fear of a statistical possibility near zero and pay through the nose for food because of man-made drought to save a minnow. No wonder your side believes astrology is science.
So are you saying the earthquakes aren't enough to worry about? Okay.
No, I don't worry about earthquakes at all. That's what troubles you lefties, all your irrational fear-mongering doesn't have us trembling and begging for you to rescue us. You guys can live in fear if you want, but leave us alone.
The mayor of Azle is scared and so are his constituents with cracks in their homes, as are residents in Oklahoma. But what do they know, just leave them alone too huh? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOkay!
Oh the drama. No of course I don't care that Azle residents are worried about earthquakes. I also hate gays, blacks, women and kick puppies every chance I get.
Your own sources keep giving us reason not jump headlong into a panic over fracking and injection, when are you going to take the hint?Quote:
"I'd say it certainly looks very possible that the earthquakes are related to injection wells," he said in an interview from Austin.
Frolich notes, however, that thousands of such wells have operated in Texas for decades, with no quakes anywhere near them. He adds that there are probably a thousand unknown faults beneath Texas.
We could just stop drilling/injecting where the earth shakes until we know better. Since they are such a small part of the energy equation. What's wrong with that?
I am all about safety, but that doesn't require a knee-jerk reaction.
Stop drilling if the ground is shaking. Not a hard concept to embrace, no matter the condition of your knees.
The problem is your side says "don't do it period" because there MIGHT be an almost zero possibility of an earthquake somewhere. We can't finish a pipeline that would be safer than trucks, trains and barges because there MIGHT be a leak some day. That's where your knees jerk.
the greenies ignore that some of their clean energy solutions have been directly responsible for seismic shifts ... projects like hydropower reservoirs ,geothermal energy and carbon sequestration have caused quakes .
Filling this dam caused a 6.3 richter quake .
Koyna Dam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
there are some who claim that the Zipingpu Dam in Sichuan caused a 7.9 quake that killed 70,000 people in China .
And of course geothermal drilling has long been a concern.
How Does Geothermal Drilling Trigger Earthquakes? - Scientific American
Geothermal power facility induces earthquakes, study finds - UC Santa Cruz
there needs to be a seismic shift in your thinking Tom, stop thinking of reasons not to implement carbon reduction strategies, volcanos also cause siesmic shifts
no my point is valid . Tal is the one doing the chicken little act about earthquakes in areas where there is fracking . He completely ignores earthquakes that have been tied to 'environmental-friendly ' energy .
There are a lot of unintended consequences of all energy production and most of them cannot be dealt with without complete cessation of activity and perhaps not even then. There are few renewable technologies that don't have consequences somewhere. What we need to do is responsibably manage risk and not exploit resources that have unexpectable levels of risk. Shale oil is one industry that does have unacceptable levels of risk, If the Canadians want to export it let them build a pipeline across the Rockies or to Hudson Bay or some such and it you want to export your product then build the pipeline or not but do so for real not imagined reasons
Law allowing Keystone pipeline in Nebraska struck down
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Dave Domina, the lawyer who handled the case for the landowners, said in a statement that the ruling is "not about the merits of any pipeline in particular" but is instead "a landowner rights case."
yeh we know the not in our backyard syndrome
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