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  • Sep 9, 2012, 08:07 PM
    Magpie95
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post

    This is hilarious! I like Joe even more now!
  • Sep 9, 2012, 09:15 PM
    paraclete
    I think Joe is about to get his head punched in
  • Sep 10, 2012, 08:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Magpie95 View Post
    This is hilarious! I like Joe even more now!

    Joe is always good for a laugh, that's for sure. I would have had a caption contest but would be hard to keep it clean. What the heck..

    "Stand up, Chuck, let 'em see ya."
  • Sep 10, 2012, 12:58 PM
    tomder55
    Sleezy rider .
  • Oct 3, 2012, 06:43 AM
    speechlesstx
    That Obama, nothing but class. He's got some ecards to send out to convince your friends that Romney wants to take us back to the stone age. Like this one:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/...om-640x399.jpg
  • Oct 3, 2012, 07:11 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    to convince your friends that Romney wants to take us back to the stone age.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Not the stone age, Steve.. Get real... But, certainly back to the early 20th Century. You deny it, of course, but the Supreme Court is ONE vote away from overturning Roe v. Wade. If Romney is elected, he'll appoint two and maybe three Supreme Court Justices...

    Now, YOU may believe that they'll UPHOLD Roe when they have the chance, but the rest of us haven't drunk that koolaid...

    excon
  • Oct 3, 2012, 07:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    No, you drank the koolaid that has you convinced beyond all reason that anyone besides Islamists and Democrats are waging a war on women.
  • Oct 3, 2012, 08:04 AM
    speedball1
    Well Speechless you might not have drank the koolaid but you surely must be dropping LSD if you believe its' the Democrats and not the Replucicans waging war on women. In 13 years of working at a woman's clinic all the religious wackos protesting and screaming outside the clinics were all Republicans. Not a Democrat in the lot.
    I put a lot of time in court getting these protesters that thought God gave them the right to ignore our laws in the slammer. And I got to tell you this. Every time I got one of those wackos jail time it felt GOOOOD! I would have loved to have met you out there. Tom PS- I really dig those "Lady Parts" do you have a problem with that? Are you peeking out of the closet? Inquiring minds want to know!
  • Oct 3, 2012, 09:00 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Well Speechless you might not have drank the koolaid but you surely must be dropping LSD if you believe its' the Democrats and not the Replucicans waging war on women.

    Dude, we aren't the ones telling women they can't make it without Obama's help.

    Quote:

    In 13 years of working at a woman's clinic all the religious wackos protesting and screaming outside the clinics were all Republicans. Not a Democrat in the lot.
    And this has exactly what to do with the vast majority of Republicans? Nothing, not a damn thing.

    Quote:

    I put a lot of time in court getting these protesters that thought God gave them the right to ignore our laws in the slammer. And I got to tell you this. Every time I got one of those wackos jail time it felt GOOOOD!
    That's a rather sadistic attitude. Look it up.

    Quote:

    I would have loved to have met you out there.
    You threatening me, dude?

    Quote:

    Tom PS- I really dig those "Lady Parts" do you have a problem with that? Are you peeking out of the closet? Inquiring minds want to know!
    What's your problem? Seriously you dude, you keep popping up from time to time to whine about the behavior of others with nary a clue as to your own intolerant, insulting, tough guy nonsensical rantings. You don't intimidate me with your misdirected, misguided bullsh*t one bit.

    By the way, did you know that Fauxcahontas, Elizabeth Warren, not only practiced law in Massachusetts without a license but represented Dow Chemical in bankruptcy proceedings stemming from lawsuits filed by women suffering health effects from breast implants manufactured by Dow?

    Paying off corporations to not warn employees of impending layoffs and working against women suffering from a bad product - yep, those Dems sure do fight for the little guy and women's body parts.
  • Oct 3, 2012, 11:32 AM
    speedball1
    Quote:

    You threatening me, dude?
    +Threaten you? Nah DUDE! Because you all are so inflexible I like to tweak those blue noses every once in a while, It was fun down at the clinic and it's fun now. Why do you think excon's hanging in there? That's right dude! He's having fun with you. Can't I just join in for a jab or two? From your posts I got to be getting under your skin dude. That's why I keep popping in from time to time. Does your nose feel "tweaked"? Why does it look so blue? The speedster dude
  • Oct 3, 2012, 11:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    +Threaten you? Nah DUDE! Because ya all are so inflexible I like to tweak those blue noses every once in a while, It was fun down at the clinic and it's fun now. Why do you think excon's hanging in there? That's right dude! he's having fun with you. Can't I just join in for a jab or two? From your posts I gotta be getting under your skin dude. That's why I keep popping in from time to time. Does your nose feel "tweaked"? Why does it look so blue? The speedster dude

    Um, ex is a pretty good guy that I make mincemeat out of in fantasy baseball. You're just a pimple on a flea. But hey, if it makes you feel good being a big, tough legend in your own mind then good for you.

    Implying that you wish to inflict injury on me? That's not tweaking, that crosses the line.
  • Oct 3, 2012, 01:09 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Not the stone age, Steve.. Get real... But, certainly back to the early 20th Century. You deny it, of course, but the Supreme Court is ONE vote away from overturning Roe v. Wade. If Romney is elected, he'll appoint two and maybe three Supreme Court Justices...

    Now, YOU may believe that they'll UPHOLD Roe when they have the chance, but the rest of us haven't drunk that koolaid...

    excon

    As much as you like to hold up Roe V Wade as some kind of standard it has already been sidestepped so it's a lot of tado about nothing.

    Since the morning after pill and its extended use of it the Roe V Wade argument is a thing of the past.
  • Oct 3, 2012, 03:34 PM
    speedball1
    Hit a nerve did I?
    Quote:

    Implying that you wish to inflict injury on me? That's not tweakin that crosses the line.
    please don't give you more importance then you'll ever possess. (Wanna take out a restraining order? Hire a bodyguard? Perhaps grow a pair?
    Nah! I was referring to the protest line. I have nothing against you! Hurt you? Hell no! You're too much fun to play with. By the way did you ever manage to get the blue off that nose I tweaked? The Tweaker Dude
  • Oct 4, 2012, 03:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Hit a nerve did I? please don't give you more importance then you'll ever possess. (Wanna take out a restraining order? Hire a bodyguard? Perhaps grow a pair?
    Nah! I was referring to the protest line. I have nothing against you! Hurt you? Hell no! You're too much fun to play with. By the way did you ever manage to get the blue off that nose I tweaked? The Tweaker Dude

    You need help.
  • Oct 4, 2012, 04:03 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    As much as you like to hold up Roe V Wade as some kind of standard it has already been sidestepped so its a lot of tado about nothing.

    Since the morning after pill and its extended use of it the Roe V Wade argument is a thing of the past.

    Tell that to Huckabee, Santorum,and Romney. They have all said they would repeal it. That and contraceptives are a NO NO!
  • Oct 4, 2012, 05:34 AM
    speedball1
    Quote:

    You need help.
    Those nice young men in those clean white coats, and their coming to take me away. Hee! Hee! Spreechless! I'd write you a nasty letter but they won't let me have an y sharp objects like a pencil. I'll leave you and Excon but

    I'LL BE BACK DUDE when you least expect it. Speedy
  • Oct 4, 2012, 06:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Those nice young men in those clean white coats, and their coming to take me away. Hee! hee! Spreechless! I'd write you a nasty letter but they won't let me have an y sharp objects like a pencil. I'll leave you and Excon ...

    "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."
    - Oscar Wilde
  • Oct 4, 2012, 06:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."
    - Oscar Wilde

    Leaving Steve?
  • Oct 4, 2012, 06:51 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Look, I can CLOSE this thread if I want.. I have POWER! They NEVER should have given me that..

    So, settle down...

    I want to ask my right wing friends to come clean... They say that NOBODY wants to repeal Roe. They say that I'm NUTS for even thinking it could happen.. They say I'm smoking stuff..

    But, you KNOW Romney would appoint Scalia type Supreme Court Justices.. If you don't KNOW it, then I KNOW it for you.. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 79 and has cancer, for crying out loud. That's ONE liberal GONE. That's all the conservatives need to form a 5 to 4 majority EVEN if Kennedy votes with the liberals.

    Once that occurs, on its own, and as it always does, the court will steer the cases it wants to hear to its doorstep. And, they'll STEER an abortion case into their lair. Of that, I have NO doubt. Once there, they'll OVERTURN Roe. If you DON'T believe that, you should RESIGN from the current events page...

    excon
  • Oct 4, 2012, 07:07 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Look, I can CLOSE this thread if I want.. I have POWER! They NEVER should have given me that..

    So, settle down...

    Me settle down? Surely you jest.

    Quote:

    I want to ask my right wing friends to come clean... They say that NOBODY wants to repeal Roe. They say that I'm NUTS for even thinking that could happen.. They say I'm smoking stuff..

    But, you KNOW Romney would appoint Scalia type Supreme Court Justices.. If you don't KNOW it, then I KNOW it for you.. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 79 and has cancer for crying out loud. That's ONE liberal GONE. That's all the conservatives need to form a 5 to 4 majority EVEN if Kennedy votes with the liberals.

    Once that occurs, on its own, and as it always does, the court will steer the cases it wants to hear to its doorstep. And, they'll STEER an abortion case into their lair. Of that, I have NO doubt. Once there, they'll OVERTURN Roe. If you DON'T believe that, you should RESIGN from the current events page...

    excon
    And we thought the Obamacare mandate didn't stand a chance.

    I have come clean, I don't believe Roe will ever be overturned. The only ones that even want to discuss Roe are you guys on the left... that and the mythical dog whistles like "basketball" and "golf." Can we move on past this silly war on wimmenses narrative?
  • Oct 4, 2012, 07:22 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I have come clean, I don't believe Roe will ever be overturned. The only ones that even want to discuss Roe are you guys on the left...

    Hello again, steve:

    I didn't fart. You act like I did. I'm NOT drunk. The scenario I point out is NOT some weird conspiracy theory... It's a VERY LIKELY possibility if Romney is elected. Did I say very.. I was being mild. It's very, VERY likely. Why you WOULDN'T think so, is beyond me.

    Unless, of course, that's because you really DO think that it'll happen and you're afraid if you admit it, it'll go away... You've never shied from a conversation before, why now?

    excon
  • Oct 4, 2012, 08:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Unless, of course, that's because you really DO think that it'll happen and you're afraid if you admit it, it'll go away... You've never shied from a conversation before, why now??

    excon

    Because I've said my piece, I don't worry about Roe. Look, the whole point in saying we thought the mandate would be overturned is those justices that Republicans appoint don't always turn out to be so conservative now do they? Souter, O'Connor, Kennedy and now Roberts anyone? I just don't believe your conspiracy theory has any legs.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 06:38 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Because I've said my piece, I don't worry about Roe.
    Hello again, Steve:

    You may have said your piece, but the rest of the country is discussing it. I'll leave you out, if you wish, but I detected yet another change last night in the every changing Republican position on abortion...

    Ryan said, "the policy of a Romney administration is to oppose abortion with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

    He also said, that he didn't believe “unelected judges” should be able to make those decisions. He also suggested that elected officials at the state level should be the ones in charge of Row V Wade.

    Now, it looks like to ME, that Ryan CONFIRMED, that if Romney is elected president, Roe is history. Maybe they won't even have to go the Supreme Court route... They BOTH support a personhood act. Right wingers in congress support a personhood act. That would ban abortion right there, and probably contraceptives too.

    Now, you can keep looking the other way, but you're going to miss something.

    Excon
  • Oct 12, 2012, 07:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    I oppose abortion too, but I'm not pushing for the appeal of Roe and they said there would be no abortion legislation from them, which should include a personhood act. I'd be more concerned that a liberal majority would do things like eviscerate the first and second amendments for starters. I'd like to keep the constitution.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 08:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    With Obama being the only candidate that wouldn't protect baby girls that survived an abortion, whose female staffers make less than their male counterparts, and now with Pelosi's PAC attacking our country's first female combat fighter pilot with a 'kitchen' ad I ask again who's really waging a war on women?



    Martha McSally responded of course...

    Quote:

    “The fact that they use this theme of Martha McSally in a kitchen cooking up recipes is…overtly sexist and insulting to any woman, but it certainly doesn’t fit specifically with me,” she said in a phone interview. “For crying out loud, I served 26 years in the military. I was too busy shooting 30 mm out of my A-10 at the Taliban and al Qaeda to spend any time in a kitchen.”
    Apparently even flying an A-10 in combat isn't enough to qualify a conservative as an authentic woman.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
    tomder55
    She flew an A-10 ? Awesome ! That is one kick-a** jet! I want to vote for her .
  • Oct 12, 2012, 09:18 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    baby girls that survived an abortion

    Do you have any stats to indicate how often this happens? Or stats for partial-birth abortions?
  • Oct 12, 2012, 10:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Do you have any stats to indicate how often this happens? Or stats for partial-birth abortions?
    Isn't saving one child enough?
  • Oct 12, 2012, 10:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    she flew an A-10 ? Awesome ! That is one kick-a** jet! I want to vote for her .
    Damn straight, that is one kicka$$ jet...



    And they put her in the kitchen? She'd blow the hell out of the kitchen.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 10:25 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Isn't saving one child enough?

    Is there even one to save?
  • Oct 12, 2012, 11:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Read the sworn testimony of Jill Stanek to the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee on the bill Obama refused to support.

    Or just ask this woman:

    Woman who Survived Abortion Takes Obama to Task in New Ad

    You don't just let babies die, not even one.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 11:39 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Woman who Survived Abortion Takes Obama to Task in New Ad

    You don't just let babies die, not even one.

    "Melissa is the survivor of a failed saline infusion abortion in 1977." (from her website) In which trimester? And why not sooner if it was a later trimester? Why is she after Obama about this ancient story? Most abortions now take place during the first trimester.

    ***ADDED*** She was at six months gestation according to the Ohio University website.

    "Localizing her story, Ohden drew a clear comparison between her biological mother and most students today. She said that her mother was told by her own parents that she needed to have an abortion and, like so many others, felt like she had no other choices.

    Born at only 2 lbs and 14 oz. Ohden said [the baby] was able to fit in the palm of a hand.

    Compromised by the abortion attempt, she faced seizures, respiratory problems and blood transfusions before miraculously being sent home after only two months of hospitalization.

    Ohden explained that saline abortions, which involve injecting a toxic, salt solution into the amniotic fluid surrounding the preborn child, are no longer performed because of their low success rate."

    I am not impressed.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 12:05 PM
    speechlesstx
    Obviously you did not read the sworn testimony. Regardless, I'm not surprised that like Obama you would refuse to support saving one baby's life.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 12:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Obviously you did not read the sworn testimony. Regardless, I'm not surprised that like Obama you would refuse to support saving one baby's life.

    That "baby" died in 1977.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 12:14 PM
    excon
    Hello Steve:

    If a botched abortion results in a life birth, I support keeping the baby alive. I'm no murderer.. Does that make you feel better?

    But, abortions aren't allowed if the baby is viable, so in the ordinary course of events, that wouldn't happen..

    excon
  • Oct 12, 2012, 12:37 PM
    talaniman
    As usual you guys left out a few facts,

    FactCheck.org : Obama and 'Infanticide'

    Quote:

    As originally proposed, the 2003 state bill, SB 1082, sought to define the term "born-alive infant" as any infant, even one born as the result of an unsuccessful abortion, that shows vital signs separate from its mother. The bill would have established that infants thus defined were humans with legal rights. It never made it to the floor; it was voted down by the Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired.
    Quote:

    However, Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5, 2002, because it could not be used to challenge the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision granting a legal right to abortion. On Aug. 16, the candidate repeated that again to David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network. He also prefaced his remarks with an attack on those who said he had misrepresented his position on the state bills, saying they were "lying."
  • Oct 12, 2012, 01:11 PM
    speedball1
    Speechless Said,
    Quote:

    You don't just let babies die, not even one.
    And Excon and I both agree, But Steve, Let's learn a new word a day. Today's word is FEE-TUSS Say it out loud because abortions don't kill bay-bees abortions terminate pregnancies along with then fetus. And if you take away that right from women you're seeking to control her medical decisions, I kind of warmed to old Steve when I found out he sparked a doobie or two. Sort of makes him seem a little looser. The one thing I learned working at the clinic is that while we focus on the women they focus on the unborn. They have all the answers EXCEPT what to do after she gives birth they aren't willing to fund programs to help unwed mothers unless it's a religious program. After 13 years I understand where they're coming from, I might not agree but I do understand, Regards, Tom
  • Oct 12, 2012, 02:18 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    That "baby" died in 1977.
    I asked you to read Jill's sworn testimony, which was in 2003. Is it really that hard for you to consider that one infant born alive might deserve care?
  • Oct 12, 2012, 02:23 PM
    Wondergirl
    I did read it, and have read it in the past. That hospital has changed its policy regarding doing abortions that late in a pregnancy (when a fetus could be viable).
  • Oct 12, 2012, 02:25 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    And Excon and I both agree, But Steve, Let's learn a new word a day. Today's word is FEE-TUSS
    Don't patronize me, a fetus is only a fetus before birth. After that it's a newborn baby. Say, it BABY.

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