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Sorry you don't make a lot of sense with this sort of thinking. How can we understand muslims if you ramble. The turks play a double game, the saudi play a double game, this is bigger than local issues. I don't doubt there are local rabble rousers and facilitators who feed recruits to daesh and trouble makers. We have enough of them here but there is no one really committed to end this conflict, the military-industrial complex don't want it ended and we have lost our appitite for war
It seems that deash is not advancing. What have they achieved? They have taken and established control of most of the sunni areas in Iraq, they have established control of sunni areas of Syria. Why have they not attacked damascus, the heart of the apostate regime? They are realists, they take what they can achieve and wait. Time is on their side. While they wait the syrian regime weakens and the iraqi regime falters
What does the west do, it waits and while it waits daesh grows stronger, sooner or later it will actually have a country to defend and a populance who will defend it. Perhaps it has reached that stage now? America is now focused on the circus within their own borders, Europe is focused on the inrush of migrants, only Russia is interested in projecting power
The US will not do anything while the emperor is on the throne. His big 3 remaining agenda is to:
1) put the final dagger in the US economy with his initiatives to control global climate change.
2) make a Haj to Tehran to bow to and kiss the ring of the Ayatollah .
3) decide on a suitable successor to the throne...(he would prefer Elizabeth Warren ;but it looks like he'll decide on stooge Joe Biden ...with an outside shot by Al the Goracle ).
The conservatives here mirror the quality of republican presidential candidates.
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I actually pity you guys, spoiled for choice as you are, but cheer up I hear krud is in the states and lookin' for a gig. Make him an offer he is the emperor type
no it won't be the Goracle . His signature issue has proven to be a fraud ... He separated from his wife Tipper and is taking some heat for that ....and no one will forgive him for his association with Al Jazzera .
JFKerry is a different issue. He sees himself as a much more effective Sec State than Evita ....especially with his complete surrender to Iran and his incompetent negotiations of the nuke treaty . I think the emperor will settle for Biden as the standard bearer of the emperor's 3rd term.
The emperor continues to push AGW to the top of the agenda. This week his flunkies in the Senate offered up another economy killing climate bill. He will also meet with Xi Jinping and make climate change a top focus of their meetings despite all the other pressing issues between the nations. He's also meeting with il Papa where they will pat themselves on the back for their efforts to create human misery in the guise of saving the world .
It wasn't that long ago when a President of the United States and the Pope collaborated to defeat communism. Now the President stands in solidarity with the Pope and the leading communist on the planet.
Such a distraction from the war on Islam, but then politics always is. You should not be concerned with communism that ship sailed long ago and like the Titanic hit an iceberg. Why should Cuba concern you, better relations can only be to your advantage, repatriate a few migrants, sell a few cars, get some good medical treatment, are you afraid they can show you a better way through austerity?
AGW is big right now because of Paris and the opportunity to grandstand on the world stage. Europe is pondering stemming the flow of its "migrants" at the source. It will be interesting to see what they will do, since you don't seem to have the talent for it
But what to do about the fact that the islamic dream is not the reality apparently Daesh is boring, not enough action and no loot
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-...-1227540948335
Someone has realised you can't get something for nothing and jihadism doesn't pay.
Well Russia is being allowed to play its favourite game, bombing the crap out of muslims and violating other people's borders, can anyone see a confrontation in their future, perhaps one engineered by themselves?
In case you are not up with the news, Russia has been bombing everyone but Daesh, perhaps saving them for last or when they are foolish enough to actually attack the syrian army meanwhile Deash is establishing its victory over ancient religions and structures. It's not all bad Russia has been bbombing Al Nusra but they also have been bombing more moderate rebel groups which will allow assad to consolidate. I expect Russia's intent is to clear the region around their air base under the guise of force protection
Vlad has always had a vested interest in Syria, with two military bases, and the threat of jihadist in his own backyard. I think it makes a regime change more imminent though, not less, and Vlad knows that.
Putin has acted to prevent regime change, he knows Daesh probably has the capability to overrun Assad, and he wants to keep those mediterranian bases
It seems local Muslims have finally got the message with one Muslim Iman telling his followers, if you don't like it here, leave. This comes after a 15 year old boy was incited to attempt to murder police by militants in his mosque and was shot dead, while other followers have been rounded up by police. It is interesting to note there hasn't been any protest by the Muslim community following the death, in contrast to the usual militant displays at other times.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-0...ippers/6839886
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-0...ooting/6841892
I waiting for a head to pop up and tell us not to say nasty things about refugees and migrants because the views at this time are unprintable even our Prime Minister has contributed the remark "it is not compulsory to live in Australia but Australia is ruled by secular law put in place by our parliament and enforced by our courts"
Back in Syria, the war on Islam seems to be succeeding, Terrorist/rebel goups are attacking eack other as the Russians pound away at them. An interesting thought, if the western powers, read US, etc, hadn't taken sides and had conducted their war on "terror" in the appropriate way, this conflict may have ended long ago, and they could have already dealt with the question of Assad, but no. proxy wars are in vogue with the unfortunate outcome that the true victor maybe the Russians and heaven forbid the Iranians. We won't be able to live with the rhetoric should this be the outcome.
we have to learn that not every revolution is an expression of freedom and the will of the people and unfortunately the US has the built in lens which means they must support every uprising in places where there is no history of democracy unless the religious/political equation is the wrong hue. No shiia islam, no socialism but use a convenient dictator by all means if he can be weaned from Russia
I see this board's participation level is where administration and some of the members want it to be.
To answer your comment . If feckless western leaders hadn't abandoned the region this conflict would not be at the level it is today . I have no problem with the Ruskies pounding away at radical jihadists . Someone has to do it.
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Yes the frequent contibutors seem to have abandoned this Board, I expect the subjects are tired and have been well dug over or are seen as irrelevant to daily life.
The Russians are impressive in their zeal, they know first hand the impacts of muslim terrorism and they also know how to gain political advantage from the lack lustre performance of a rival, of course, they tend to be heavy handed and not overly concerned about civilian populations. I think they are right that you cannot distinguish between the various groups when they are all mixed in together. The Iraqi have made no progress against Daesh, perhaps saving a sunni isn't worth a shiite life and we have a wait and see how the game plays out which may mean Daesh will give up out of boredom.
One curious twist is that the Assad regime are reported to be buying oil from Daesh, Syrian oil of course.
nope they were driven off . I go to a site where the same topics are given enthusiastic conversation (and no one is hung up about pc ) .You'd like it .There are plenty discussions about Christianity .Quote:
Hi Tom
Yes the frequent contibutors seem to have abandoned this Board, I expect the subjects are tired and have been well dug over or are seen as irrelevant to daily life.
Sweet! Where is it?
Yes Tom don't keep it a secret I've been wondering what you have been doing with your time
Marvellous development in Syria, Russia is calling for elections, no doubt Vlad has given Assad a quick course in how to hang on to power while not actually seeming to do it
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Some of us and Im not speaking for others. Mostly for myself. Just get tired of being stuck in what seems like a cycle of wash - rinse-repeat. What keeps me from commenting most times is that it appears the topics are on point but the real point is being missed as it is only a distraction from what is actually going on. There are many areas you and I both agree on and many where we agree to disagree. That is what makes for healthy discussion. The problem comes in when it appears that the discussion breaks down into an almost cyclical event. I prefer to walk away. It doesnt stop me from returning and reading what has been said as I might learn something. I try keeping an open mind and also am aware that I am opinionated too. That is all part of the great mix.
Since Google redid the way its search engine posts results and the way it grades sites we have taken a hit here.
Yes I know where you are coming from. As to accessibility of the site there are still many questions in a number of topics it is just that people don't seem to want to express political or religious views and that may be part of the cycle. For myself, I know I've taken a lot of hits since I first came here and the world has changedQuote:
Some of us and Im not speaking for others. Mostly for myself. Just get tired of being stuck in what seems like a cycle of wash - rinse-repeat.
Daesh claim they shot down a russian airliner in Sinai. The Russians were unaffected by the loss of MH17 allegedly from a Russian Buk missile in Ukraine but I wonder how it feels with the shoe on the other foot
Russian plane crash: Flight 7K9268 crashed in Egypt
If daesh have this capability then the whole face of the war against daesh changes and I would expect Russia to step up punitive strikes against daesh and become much more aggressive towards that group. We can expect russian pressure on Egypt to very rapidly attack daesh in Sinai
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