Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I KNEW you tea partiers didn't really like the Constitution. You'd rather we ditch it and adopt the standards of Saudi Arabia. Why do you hate this country so?

excon

---

Where in the Constitution does it say Muslims can plop a Mosque wherever they want, without public review and acceptance everyone else has to follow? I can't even put an addition onto my house without approval of the neighbors. THe Immam that want to build that Mosque thinks WE should adopt Sharia law... in violation of our constitution.

What about the rights of Americans to NOT be offended by a Memorial to the 9/11 terrorists Or subsidizing that memorial through tax exempt status.

You can't build a Church anywhere you want (public impact thing)... where do they get off doing that.

Hello smoothy:

Although I LOVE arguing with you, you showed up late to the party with old arguments. They've been disposed of.

excon

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:

Although I LOVE arguing with you, you showed up late to the party with old arguments. They've been disposed of.

excon

---

True... I've been busy with other things and didn't have the time until now.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Um, I haven't said anything about banning the mosque. But if Gutfeld would build it I just might donate to help build the gay bar next door as an outreach to gay Muslims. I hear there's been plenty of suggestions for naming the place.

---

Best one I've heard so far was Sheik Yourbooty.

As for me, I agree with some of what Smooty is saying and some of what Excon is saying.

Smoothy: Yes, it could end up being a Terrorist Memorial, but I'm not aware that it wants "to be built by a known radical"

Excon: You should not presume that Smoothy is someone who does not "like the Constitution".

Frankly, I "don't like" the Constitution in that it is so vague in many areas that radicals can make laws saying that some things that the founders believed in have been since deemed "Unconstitutional".

Probably means nothing here, but I just wanted to say it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RickJ

As for me, I agree with some of what Smooty is saying and some of what Excon is saying.

Smoothy: Yes, it could end up being a Terrorist Memorial, but I'm not aware that it wants "to be built by a known radical"

Excon: You should not presume that Smoothy is someone who does not "like the Constitution".

Frankly, I "don't like" the Constitution in that it is so vague in many areas that radicals can make laws saying that some things that the founders believed in have been since deemed "Unconstitutional".

Probably means nothing here, but I just wanted to say it.

---

The Immam that is collecting money and footing the drive to build this actually is known as a radical that days after 9/11 made disparaging remarks about the USA... so by definition he is a known radical. His actions and public statements back up that statement.

Pajamas Media Ground Zero Imam: 'I Don't Believe in Religious Dialogue'

I have Muslim friends, they know better than push their religion on me, and I'm not one to push mine on them... but some things are just NOT open for discussion. Such as the IRA building a memorial to its dead right across from Buckingham Palace, A memorial to the Memory of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City, etc... all intended to be an In-your-face reminder of what has happened in the past, and not in a good way.

On the lighter side... here is a list of proposed names for the Men only social club they claim they will have.



31. Infidel-ity
30. Honor Drillings
29. Jihard
28. Filthy Omar's Rusty Trombone
27. The Arabian Queen
26. Dune Biters
25. Goat's Night Off
24. The Pink Prophet
23. The Leather Burqa
22. Git Mo
21. Pig in a Poke
20. Sheiks & Freaks
19. Sodom and Gonorrhea
18. Osama Bin Dover
17. The Exploding Goat
16. Weapons of A*s Destruction
15. Alla Assbar
14. Anderson Cooper's Apartment
13. The Sticky Prophet
12. The Sphinxter
11. Grind Zero
10. Nuclear Fuel Rods
9. Hassan's TestostoRoom
8. Turbuns
7. Bunker Busters
6. The Tali-bone
5. Al-Jizzera
4. The Gaza Stripper
3. The Sandy Gerbil
2. The Camel's Hump
1. Hide the Minaret

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smoothy

The Immam that is collecting money and footing the drive to build this actually is known as a radical that days after 9/11 made disparaging remarks about the USA....so by definition he is a known radical. His actions and public statements back up that statement.

Pajamas Media Ground Zero Imam: 'I Don't Believe in Religious Dialogue'

I have Muslim friends, they know better than push their religion on me, and I'm not one to push mine on them....but some things are just NOT open for discussion. Such as the IRA building a memorial to its dead right across from Buckingham Palace, A memorial to the Memory of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City, etc... all intended to be an In-your-face reminder of what has happened in the past, and not in a good way.

---

I'm not sure how much credence I'll give "Pajama Media" but I'll certainly continue to watch the issue and see what the Immam is up to.

The Cordoba Initiative web site recently scrubbed a pix of Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf Iranian together with Mohammad Javad Larijani ,secretary-general of Iran's High Council for Human Rights; at an event that the Initiative sponsored in Malaysia in 2008.Larijani is sent by the Mahdi-Hatter to the UN to defend Iran's human rights record... You ,know stoning ,murder of protesters by the thousands ;religious persecution.

Meanwhile Rauf has disappeared since he began his "outreach" trip for the State Dept. Only one US Embassy in the ME will confirm they expect him to be there this month (the US embassy in Bahrain has confirmed he is expected on Aug. 19). His mission otherwise has been pretty hush hush . Is he collecting funds on the taxpayer's time ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RickJ

I'm not sure how much credence I'll give "Pajama Media" but I'll certainly continue to watch the issue and see what the Immam is up to.

---

Well, its not just them... it was the easiest reference to find in a few minutes of looking. But all of that information has been announced in other sources... such as FOX news ETC. Just so you know its NOT obscure or little known. And its not a site I have even visted before... it just contained all the information I have heard on talk radio by others who have done in-depth research. So that's why I linked it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RickJ

I'm not sure how much credence I'll give "Pajama Media" but I'll certainly continue to watch the issue and see what the Immam is up to.

---

Pajama Media is generally pretty credible . However ,they are a better site when the host author is named.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tomder55

Best one I've heard so far was Sheik Yourbooty.

---

Theme song by KC and the Sharia Band? Will they be dancing to "M-m-m-my Sharia?"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RickJ

Excon: You should not presume that Smoothy is someone who does not "like the Constitution".

---

Hello again, Rick:

Just for clarification sake, I DON'T, at all, think smoothy hates his country or dislikes his Constitution. I really said that tongue in cheek, cause I get accused of it all the time. When discussions get heated, it seems the other side resorts to that accusation. It's NOT one usually heard from my side. That's because, like I said, we don't believe it. I'm afraid, though, the other side really DOES believe that people like me, hate their country.

excon

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Rick:

Just for clarification sake, I DON'T, at all, think smoothy hates his country or dislikes his Constitution. I really said that tongue in cheek, cause I get accused of it all the time. When discussions get heated, it seems the other side resorts to that accusation. It's NOT one usually heard from my side. That's because, like I said, we don't believe it. I'm afraid, though, the other side really DOES believe that people like me, hate their country.

excon

---

More generalisations... from the left who wish to legislate their agenda from the Bench, since no laws exist or constitutional provisions support their agenda they wish to impose on everyone againsrt the wishes of the majority of the population.

Funny How the Obama administration is spending millions to rebuild Mosques around the world, yet not one dime is spent on decaying Christian Cathedrals. Funny how Chistians get no defense of their rights from the left... yet we hear about the RIGHTS Muslims have to build a Memorial to the 9/11 Terrorists near Ground Zero. And they Were Muslims... and their actions were applauded very vigorously in most of the Muslim world on and after 9/11.

I have yet to hear exactly where in the Constitution that Muslims have the Right to build any Memorial parading as a Mosque anywhere they want. Disragardign pubilic sentiment and laws to the contrary. Especially when Christians can't Celecbrate Christmas or have a group prayer at any event... or even place a Christmas Tree at christmas without a protest from the very same people that support the Manhattan Terrorist memorial.

Obama is a Muslim... and he said so in his own autobiography (thus his own words)even if he publicly claims otherwise for political expediency. No wonder Obama supports it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Theme song by KC and the Sharia Band? Will they be dancing to "M-m-m-my Sharia?"

---

How about Donnie (bin) Iris Ah! Sharia!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smoothy

Obama is a Muslim...and he said so in his own autobiography (thus his own words)even if he publically claims otherwise for political expediency. No wonder Obama supports it.

---

Hello again, smoothy:

You forgot the most important one... He wasn't BORN here.

excon

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

You forgot the most important one... He wasn't BORN here.

excon

---

Did you or did you not read HIS Autobiography... I guess not, because OBAMA did made that statement (that he is a muslim) in his autobiography, which by definition, is about him, written by him or it wouldn't be an autobiography.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smoothy

I have yet to hear exactly where in the Constitution that Muslims have the Right to build any Memorial parading as a Mosque anywhere they want.

---

Hello again, smoothy:

Like I told Rick earlier, you like your Constitution. You just haven't read much of it. Take a look. The First Amendment should be enough. Here's the important part, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

It's pretty straightforward to me. Please tell me why Muslims shouldn't have that right?

excon

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smoothy

Did you or did you not read HIS Autobiography.....I guess not, because OBAMA did made that statement (that he is a muslim) in his autobiography, which by definition, is about him, written by him or it wouldn't be an autobiography.

---

Please quote that part, or at least tell me the page number. And from Dreams or Audacity?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

. Please tell me why Muslims shouldn't have that right?

excon

---

Hi, Ex.

Why don't Christians? Why don't Jews? Why can't I?

Simple answer: Frivolous lawsuits