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  • Jun 16, 2020, 01:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Your turn, if you care to take it.


    No meaning given for this. So, no answer.
    Exactly what I expected. Guess what question you're going to see repeated for a LONG time now?

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    We are getting a very full picture of you.
    Yep. You're full of it alright.

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    And you believe that children who do not believe as you do spend all eternity being tortured in hell. Those poor Sikh kids. First you won't allow them to post their scriptures next to yours, and then you send them to hell for all eternity to be continuously tortured. Don't forget to leave that out. That's pretty important, wouldn't you say?
    I guess once a liar, then always a liar.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 01:24 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Exactly what I expected. Guess what question you're going to see repeated for a LONG time now?

    LOL. Bring it on.

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    I guess once a liar, then always a liar.
    I'm not aware what question this one refers to either. Could you repeat this one for a LONG time also? Thanks.

    Woops - I just got it. The Sikh children going to hell. What in that statement of your belief is a lie?
  • Jun 16, 2020, 01:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    That children are going to hell for unbelief. Have actually said the opposite. That was your blatant lie.

    And what are your religious beliefs?
  • Jun 16, 2020, 01:39 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That children are going to hell for unbelief. Have actually said the opposite.

    Thus, you believe unbaptized babies plus Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jewish, et al. children will not go to hell.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 02:12 PM
    jlisenbe
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    Thus, you believe unbaptized babies plus Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jewish, et al. children will not go to hell.
    I never said anything about baptism. As far as children go, I don't know of any Biblical teaching on that. Not saying it's not there, just that I'm not familiar with it. My understanding is that a person is not held accountable for sin until he/she is old enough to realize their own guilt. Could be wrong, but that's my understanding on it. Same thing, by the way, I have said a number of times in the past.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 03:28 PM
    tomder55
    what was the original OP ? Oh yeah about C-19 treatments . OMG !! they are treating patients with a drug that is not approved for C-19 ;has not gone through peer reviewed double blind studies ;and nobody has their panties twisted over it ? How can that be ?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/healt...-bn/index.html
  • Jun 16, 2020, 03:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    Interesting article. 33% improvement is significant.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 04:21 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    what was the original OP ? Oh yeah about C-19 treatments . OMG !! they are treating patients with a drug that is not approved for C-19 ;has not gone through peer reviewed double blind studies ;and nobody has their panties twisted over it ? How can that be ?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/healt...-bn/index.html

    noone sticks to the OP. The drug was shown to be effective in killing the virus in a patient, just someone's bright idea, but then, officialdom felt thwarted, afterall they hadn't been consulted, had no data and couldn't take the chance they would be blamed
  • Jun 16, 2020, 05:11 PM
    Athos
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    As far as children go, I don't know of any Biblical teaching on that

    Dear God!! You need a Bible teaching to tell you sending children to hell to be tortured for eternity is wrong? It's hard to comment on such a belief.

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    Not saying it's not there, just that I'm not familiar with it.
    Oh well, THAT'S a relief!

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    My understanding is that a person is not held accountable for sin until he/she is old enough to realize their own guilt. Could be wrong, but that's my understanding on it. Same thing, by the way, I have said a number of times in the past.
    You have NOT said that in the past - at least not in the beginning. The original debate was whether unbelievers go to hell for eternity to be tortured. That morphed over months until it became hard to tell just what you DID believe.

    You kept changing, and kept refusing to put your belief in plain language, instead you kept referring to various Bible passages as though you had no ability to think for yourself. Yes, yes, Jesus' words and all that.

    When you finally agreed to explain your belief, you conditioned it on my explaining my belief re hell after you explained yours. So I explained mine first, then you refused to live up to your promise claiming my position on hell was not a belief because I didn't believe in it. Just another of your constant evading an answer to a very simple question.

    You know what? I don't give a damn anymore. It's enough to know you have a very sick understanding of Jesus' words. That's why I call you Judas. Like him, you have betrayed the message of Christ.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 05:11 PM
    jlisenbe
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    couldn't take the chance they would be blamed
    Name of the game for pols. Don't do anything that could bring about criticism.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 06:40 PM
    paraclete
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Name of the game for pols. Don't do anything that could bring about criticism.

    Doesn't stop trump he believes that any publicity is good publicity
  • Jun 16, 2020, 07:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Trump is not a pol. That's part of his appeal.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 07:52 PM
    talaniman
    He is also a lying cheating dufus and scam artist. That's a HUGE turn off. Why won't he and Mnuchin release who got that PPE money. We already know lawmakers got there paws in the till already.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 07:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He is also a lying cheating dufus and scam artist.

    He was that way when he lived in NYC.
  • Jun 16, 2020, 08:29 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Trump is not a pol. That's part of his appeal.

    After 3 1/2 years he is a politician
  • Jun 17, 2020, 04:14 AM
    jlisenbe
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    After 3 1/2 years he is a politician
    Not really. He does not behave like a pol. It is both a strength and a weakness. The contrast between the professional pol (Biden) and the amateur pol (Trump) is really striking. I just think the debates will be a bigger negative for Biden than for Trump.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 06:01 AM
    talaniman
    The bases of the dufus and my friend Joe are dug in, so the undecided middle will decide this race and lets face it, the dufus won't be able to keep lying and not pay the cost, especially if things go south with the virus, and the economy, and the feds stop propping up Wall Street.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 06:46 AM
    jlisenbe
    If Biden can remember where he is, he might have a chance. Good luck with that.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 07:24 AM
    talaniman
    Even if he can't he has a good woman to remind him.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 07:36 AM
    jlisenbe
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    Even if he can't he has a good woman to remind him.
    Vote for Biden. He can't remember anything, but at least his wife can.

    Good luck with that.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 08:20 AM
    talaniman
    Vote for the dufus, and listen to more lies. You may need more than luck for that.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 08:22 AM
    jlisenbe
    "Vote for Trump and keep a historic economic period going." I think that will work.

    "Vote for What's His Name." He'll...do something.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 09:04 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Vote for Biden. He can't remember anything, but at least his wife can.

    Good luck with that.

    If Trump would take the lifts out of his shoes and stop eating all that junk food that makes him so chubby, he might be able to walk down a ramp. And Melania is rarely to be seen. If I were Trump's wife, I'd be hiding too.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 09:17 AM
    jlisenbe
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    If Trump would take the lifts out of his shoes and stop eating all that junk food that makes him so chubby, he might be able to walk down a ramp.
    Wow. Back to fat-shaming again. Well, at least you won't vote for Stacey Abram.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 09:51 AM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Wow. Back to fat-shaming again. Well, at least you won't vote for Stacey Abram.

    So you say none of that is true? At least I'm not the one guilty of shaming Biden.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 10:00 AM
    jlisenbe
    So if it's true, then it's OK to shame? Got it.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 10:32 AM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So if it's true, then it's OK to shame? Got it.

    You taught me how.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 10:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    It will come back to haunt you. You can't complain now since you have said it's OK so long as it's true.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 10:54 AM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It will come back to haunt you. You can't complain now since you have said it's OK so long as it's true.

    You said it; I didn't.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 12:09 PM
    jlisenbe
    Nope. It was you. "So you say none of that is true?"
  • Jun 17, 2020, 12:32 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nope. It was you. "So you say none of that is true?"

    Reading comprehension has always been a struggle for you, hasn't it.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 12:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    Real slow. "So...you...say...none...of...that...is...true ?"
  • Jun 17, 2020, 01:47 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It will come back to haunt you.

    WG, he's big on coming "back to haunt". He says that to me, too. LOL. Not much bite in that bark.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 02:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    A..q..u..i..n..a..s

    You just can't get over it. It stokes your hatred and anger. Very sad to watch.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 02:48 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    "Vote for Trump and keep a historic economic period going." I think that will work.

    "Vote for What's His Name." He'll...do something.

    Where have you been? The virus has the economy reeling and if the dufus can't deal with either the virus or economy he's toast.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 02:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures. I think most people have enough sense to know that the virus set us back a great deal. I doubt that more than a handful of people would look at JB and think he would have done a better job of managing it.
  • Jun 17, 2020, 03:17 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures.

    And without (impatient) consumers wearing masks or doing any social distancing, COVID-19 has come surging back!
  • Jun 17, 2020, 03:51 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures. I think most people have enough sense to know that the virus set us back a great deal. I doubt that more than a handful of people would look at JB and think he would have done a better job of managing it.

    Thank you Mr. Obama for delivering a good healthy economy that the dufus build on and take credit for.

    Thank you slaves for building the best nation on Earth for FREE, with labor, blood, sweat, and great sacrifice through cruelty, and all kinds of atrocities.

    You aren't worried about that debt, so why the hell should my grandkids worry about paying a debt they didn't make?
  • Jun 17, 2020, 03:55 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A..q..u..i..n..a..s.

    That's it? That's the bite?

    Here it is in big bold letters.

    A..q..u..i..n..a..s

  • Jun 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
    jlisenbe
    Wonderful! Now you're catching on.

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