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  • Dec 20, 2013, 02:55 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    without regard to the security of American's personal information
    . How can you talk about security of information when the NSA controls your lives and probes every oriface
  • Dec 21, 2013, 04:12 AM
    NeedKarma
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    without regard to the security of American's personal information.
    Ha! That ship sailed long ago, during the Bush admin.
  • Dec 21, 2013, 04:55 AM
    paraclete
    What they don't realise is they live in a police state, theSA is the modern version of the Gestapo
  • Dec 21, 2013, 05:59 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Ha! That ship sailed long ago, during the Bush admin.
    And exploded under the emperor, but no you don't get to blame Bush for Obamacare. He had nothing to do with it and did not build a website with no security to protect our personal data. I suspect you know the difference.
  • Dec 21, 2013, 06:12 AM
    talaniman
    Too bad that's not true Speech the truth is that you got part of the story that somebody (Issa?) leaked to the press. The rest of it was that the same witness also testified that the upgrades had fixed the problem and far exceeded expectations.

    I will provide a link when I figure this new upgrade out :(
  • Dec 21, 2013, 06:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    So apparently CBS is also a right-wing mouthpiece. The testimony is the testimony, no one seriously doubts it went live with huge security holes and now we know the regime perjured itself again by saying no one knew of the risks.

    Re: the new site, Love the auto save, very helpful on a tablet. Miss a functional profile page and being taken to the last page after posting.
  • Dec 21, 2013, 06:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Question of the day, if the squeal and repeal crowd is so wrong and obamacare so great, why is Obama systematically repealing it himself?
  • Dec 21, 2013, 07:09 AM
    talaniman
    My point was you didn't get the whole testimony. There was a lot more he didn't reveal. That was intention cherry picking to make his point, and mislead. I have already given links to the law that gives flexibility to make changes (tweaks) by the HHS, and the process and its hardly a repeal, and so far the delay is defined and clear and so are the reasons. To fix glitch as they go.

    Quote:

    Re: the new site, Love the auto save, very helpful on a tablet. Miss a functional profile page and being taken to the last page after posting.
    10-4
  • Dec 21, 2013, 07:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    Dude, put the Koolaid down. Sebelius lied, period and you don't get to make it up as you go, especially without regard to the consequences. All obama is doing is covering his a$$ again for the current news cycle workout any thought to how it further complicates the situation. The sheer audacity of lying to us about keeping our doctors and insurance then telling us we can keep our plans after they've been canceled is breathtaking, not to mention unworkable.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 07:24 AM
    tomder55
    The emperor symbolically signed up for Obamacare this week. He signed up for an individual bronze plan that he'll never need to use(As CIC ,his medical is covered by the military ) . His plan calls for him to shell out $400 a month without subsidies.
    So how did he do it ? Did he sign up on the web ? Nah ;he couldn't navigate it . So he sent his staffers to the D.C. exchange to do it for him. Evidently they couldn't risk his personal information being compromised ;or the web couldn't verify his identity .(seen that show before ) .
    The emperor has much in common with Kelly Weaver .
    Quote:

    Kelly Weaver, a substitute teacher in Michigan, said her application has been stuck in the identity verification process since mid-October.

    "I don't know what they're fixing," says Weaver, who considers herself a health-law supporter. "I'm definitely noticing different fonts but that doesn't really fix my situation."

    Weaver has submitted identity verification information online and over the phone. She has uploaded copies of her driver's license to the Web site. When she's called the customer service center, she's twice been told she'll receive a call back in two to five business days. Both times, she never got a return phone call.

    "I don't know what to do next," Weaver says. "When I talk to them on the phone, they say we'll have to get back to you. But its really, 'we're getting you off the phone because other people are waiting in the queue.' "
    HealthCare.gov finally works — for some people
    The difference is that Kelly doesn't have a personal staff to go to the exchange to 'symbolically' sign her up.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 08:38 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Yawwwwwn... The site WILL be fixed. People will BUY insurance. They want it. YOU have it. Game over. Next.

    excon
  • Dec 27, 2013, 08:53 AM
    speechlesstx
    Ah, if only it would blow over as simply as that. Dream on, the nightmare will continue.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 09:11 AM
    talaniman
    The insurance companies will eventually process the applications. Like UPS, and FedEx are still delivering packages. The government ain't perfect, neither is the private sector.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 09:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    At least UPS and Fedex can blame weather and strong demand unlike dysfunctional portals and changing the rules daily.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 10:25 AM
    excon
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    unlike dysfunctional portals and changing the rules daily
    Hello again, Steve:

    First off, you complain about the site NOT working, and then you complain about the FIXES Obama does. You say he doesn't have the authority to "fix" it. He has to go back to congress. But, of course, YOUR method won't FIX anything.. It'll DESTROY it.

    So, let's call a spade a spade.. You don't wanna fix it. You HATE it. You HATE everything about it (except the benefits). Oh, you'll TAKE them, alright, if you're forced.. But, EVEN you, after BENEFITING from these BENEFITS, won't wanna give 'em up either..

    Yawwwwwwn... Next.

    excon
  • Dec 27, 2013, 12:59 PM
    speechlesstx
    You aren't even interested in hearing about any fix short of single payer so spare me the pious grandstanding. It is notable though how little concern you have over the president's unconstitutional power grabs. I bet the tune changes when a Republican follows his precedent.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 01:02 PM
    talaniman
    SCOTUS has ruled, so have the people, get over it, and good luck on the next election.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 04:25 PM
    speechlesstx
    Okie dokie. If you say so.
  • Dec 27, 2013, 08:29 PM
    tomder55
    SCOTUS hasn't ruled on all aspects .They haven't as an example ruled on the 14th Amendment equal protection clause violations of the emperor's waivers .
    They haven't ruled on all the 1st amendment religious freedom violations .They haven't ruled on the 2nd amendment violations of a defacto back door gun registry by doctors . They haven't ruled on the
    4th and 5th amendment violations of the Fed Government having access to your bank accounts to make sure that you are paying your Obamacare premiums .They haven't ruled on the 8th amendment violation of excess fines. And I'm sure there's more if I think hard enough. Since there is this stupid 'standing' rule ;no cases can be heard until there is an injured person who has standing to bring a case. That means the law has to be enacted before many of the cases coming are filed .
  • Dec 28, 2013, 10:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Maybe you'll have insurance, maybe you won't.

    Officials: 16,000 Iowans should reapply for health care | Local News - Home
  • Dec 30, 2013, 12:06 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    SCOTUS hasn't ruled on all aspects .They haven't as an example ruled on the 14th Amendment equal protection clause violations of the emperor's waivers .
    They haven't ruled on all the 1st amendment religious freedom violations .They haven't ruled on the 2nd amendment violations of a defacto back door gun registry by doctors . They haven't ruled on the
    4th and 5th amendment violations of the Fed Government having access to your bank accounts to make sure that you are paying your Obamacare premiums .They haven't ruled on the 8th amendment violation of excess fines. And I'm sure there's more if I think hard enough. Since there is this stupid 'standing' rule ;no cases can be heard until there is an injured person who has standing to bring a case. That means the law has to be enacted before many of the cases coming are filed .
    let me see if I get this right, it's legal until it's not, so constitutional rights exist only if the SCOTUS says so, I would have expected it was encumbrent upon legislators and the POTUS to avoid contravening the constitution in the first place
  • Dec 30, 2013, 03:10 AM
    tomder55
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    I would have expected it was encumbrent upon legislators and the POTUS to avoid contravening the constitution in the first place
    Indeed .
  • Dec 30, 2013, 05:54 AM
    tomder55
    Apparently insurance provided to the Federal work force may not comply with the min. Obamacare standards.
    Quote:

    The Obama administration has told Vista volunteers and other AmeriCorps workers that their government-provided health coverage does not measure up to the standards of the new health care law, and that they may be subject to financial penalties unless they obtain insurance elsewhere.

    The notice has surprised and worried workers in AmeriCorps, the federal community service program that is often described as a domestic version of the Peace Corps.

    Mary Strasser, the director of AmeriCorps’ Vista program, described the changes in a bulletin to members on Dec. 16.

    The coverage provided by the agency — the AmeriCorps Health Care Benefits Plan — “does not satisfy the individual responsibility requirement of the Affordable Care Act,” which takes effect on Jan. 1, Ms. Strasser said. Accordingly, she said, Vista members may be required to pay a tax penalty if they do not have other coverage and do not receive an exemption.

    The impact on community service workers is another unanticipated consequence of the health care law, which is making coverage available at little or no cost to many uninsured people but disrupting coverage for others who already had it.
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/27...ails-test.html
  • Dec 30, 2013, 08:18 AM
    talaniman
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    AmeriCorps members say their existing coverage, which pays for doctors' services, hospital care and prescription drugs, meets most of their needs. However, according to the members' handbook, “AmeriCorps does not provide benefits for any diagnosis that is considered a pre-existing condition,” and the coverage for preventive care appears to be less than the law requires.

    Sarah L. Sklaw, a 22-year-old Vista member from New York City, said: “I really support the Affordable Care Act, and I don't want to be a naysayer. But it was surprising and frustrating to be told that our health coverage would not meet the law's standards, especially because the Corporation for National and Community Service told us at orientation in August that we did not need to worry about the issue.”

    Other AmeriCorps members said they occasionally needed more extensive coverage to pay for treatment of pre-existing conditions or injuries requiring specialty care, and they noted that some members did dangerous work, such as fighting wildfires or building trails on steep mountains.
    Equal application and treatment under the law. You saying they shouldn't be treated equally? Or adequately covered just because they volunteer? Or all of us shouldn't have to make adjustments for a better quality product from insurance companies?

    The shame is the federal government had an inadequate program in the first place for so long.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:33 AM
    tomder55
    don't worry .I smell another emperor exemption .
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:37 AM
    talaniman
    Or extension since the agency never bothered to make any plans to change what they were doing.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    In other words, still finding out what's in obamacare because the emperor keeps changing it to cover his a$$.
  • Dec 30, 2013, 09:55 AM
    talaniman
    Considering the haphazard way republicans implement their voting laws, and abortion restrictions there is little room to validate your own one way criticism.
  • Jan 1, 2014, 03:34 AM
    tomder55
    Justice Sonia Sotomayor has ordered a delay in the implementing of the birth control mandate . Sotomayor acted on a request for an emergency stay from the Little Sisters of the Poor Home for the Aged.
  • Jan 1, 2014, 06:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Naturally the tone deaf administration still defends the mandate as only Democrats can.

    "The president believes that no one, including the government or for-profit corporations, should be able to dictate those decisions to women,” Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, said last month.

    Aren't they dictating choices to these nuns? Aren't they women, too?
  • Jan 1, 2014, 08:13 AM
    talaniman
    The administration has until Friday to respond. Let it go to court.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 07:34 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Four states are responsible for ONE FOURTH of America's uninsured. Can you guess which ones? I'll bet you can.

    The governors of Texas, Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana are rejecting Obamacare saying their uninsured don't need any help. These stated combined, add up to one fourth of the nations uninsured.

    I suppose there ARE good reasons why these governors did this. Can you relate some?

    excon
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Four states are responsible for ONE FOURTH of America's uninsured. Can you guess which ones? I'll bet you can.

    The governors of Texas, Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana are rejecting Obamacare saying their uninsured don't need any help. These stated combined, add up to one fourth of the nations uninsured.

    I suppose there ARE good reasons why these governors did this. Can you relate some?

    excon

    I take issue with the assertion that they are "saying their uninsured don't need any help." That's a bullsh*t argument if I ever saw one.

    P.S. I see no supporting evidence either, just numbers pulled from their a$$ as far as I know.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    Removed due to site bugs. Kind of like healthcare.gov.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:24 AM
    talaniman
    Ex asked for information not rock throwing. So tell him what your state does for uninsured poor people.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 08:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    ex was throwing the rocks, if you don't want them thrown back don't start off with a bullsh*t unsupported, trap question.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 09:17 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Upworthy is a website for viral content started in March 2012 by Eli Pariser, the former executive director of MoveOn, and Peter Koechley, the former managing editor of The Onion. One of Facebook's co-founders, Chris Hughes, was an early investor. It is dedicated to publicizing progressive narratives
    Upworthy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Jan 2, 2014, 09:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    In other words just so much progressive propaganda, aka bullsh*t.
  • Jan 2, 2014, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    the article had the look of Onion content .
  • Jan 2, 2014, 11:19 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    So, right wing rags like the Free Beacon is gospel, whereas a left leaner is not to be taken seriously... I got it. I really understand.

    I'm STILL blown away that you compared that blog to the NY Times.

    excon

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