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  • May 29, 2013, 08:12 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Quote:

    so you agree there should be a special prosecutor assigned to empanel a Grand Jury.
    First off, you should probably find somebody who actually did some "targeting". As we've discovered, NOBODY "targeted" anybody. That's YOUR word.

    Show me a crime, and I'll back the appointment of a special prosecutor... But, all I see is BUNGLING!!

    You don't help your cause when every Tom, D*ck and right wing Harry COMPLAIN that they were TARGETED because the IRS audited them... But, that's what you guys a doing...

    Excon
  • May 29, 2013, 08:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    First off, you should probably find somebody who actually did some "targeting". As we've discovered, NOBODY "targeted" anybody. That's YOUR word.

    Show me a crime, and I'll back the appointment of a special prosecutor... But, all I see is BUNGLING!!!

    You don't help your cause when every Tom, D*ck and right wing Harry COMPLAIN that they were TARGETED because the IRS audited them... But, that's what you guys a doing...

    excon

    You wake up in a new world every day, eh? Not me, I both know the facts and have proven your spin to be the nonsense it is.
  • May 29, 2013, 08:23 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    I both know the facts and have proven your spin to be the nonsense it is.
    BOLO is NOT evidence of criminal conduct..

    Look.. I HATE government.. If Obama is the crook you say he is, then I want him Out of there too. I just need a little bit of proof first.. A little bit will do. I'm easy that way.. But, right wing speculation and rancor AIN'T proof..

    Excon
  • May 29, 2013, 08:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    Keep deluding yourself, ex. Just keep deluding yourself, you apparently drank the koolaid.
  • May 29, 2013, 08:38 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know.. If there WAS proof, you wouldn't HIDE it from me, would you? Look.. I just need a tad.. A little bit. I don't need much.

    But, I need SOME. That IS how it works here in this great country of ours, isn't it?

    excon
  • May 29, 2013, 08:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I dunno.. If there WAS proof, you wouldn't HIDE it from me, would you? Look.. I just need a tad.. A little bit. I don't need much.

    But, I need SOME. That IS how it works here in this great country of ours, isn't it??

    excon

    Dude, you're the one hung up on a word, the PROOF is in the OP. The PROOF is what started this whole mess. ADMISSION of wrongdoing should be all the PROOF you need to be sufficiently pi$$ed.
  • May 29, 2013, 09:20 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    The PROOF is what started this whole mess. ADMISSION of wrongdoing should be all the PROOF you need to be sufficiently pi$$ed.
    That the dingy broad Lois Lerner admitted something, and then pleads the 5th, isn't proof to me.

    (1) Find the crime.
    (2) Find the guy who DID it.
    (3) Find the guy who ORDERED it.

    You got NONE of that. That would be ZERO, NADA, ZILCH. Come back when you do.

    Excon

    PS> I've copied this post to use on your Benghazi and AP threads if needed.
  • May 29, 2013, 09:27 AM
    talaniman
    They copy and paste on the right too Ex,

    Its Obama's fault... fill in conspiracy theory... Impeach him.
  • May 29, 2013, 09:29 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post

    Show me a crime, and I'll back the appointment of a special prosecutor...
    excon

    Uhh that didn't stop anyone from appointing a prosecutor when a reporter revealed a well know fact about Valerie Plame.
  • May 29, 2013, 09:56 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    That the dingy broad Lois Lerner admitted something, and then pleads the 5th, isn't proof to me.

    (1) Find the crime.
    (2) Find the guy who DID it.
    (3) Find the guy who ORDERED it.

    You got NONE of that. That would be ZERO, NADA, ZILCH. Come back when you do.

    excon

    PS> I've copied this post to use on your Benghazi and AP threads if needed.

    Yeah, well I hope you aren't next to feel the weight of the IRS bulldozing through your life. See unlike you I see a real, serious problem here that's as plain as the boobs that used to be on Angelina Jolie's chest.
  • May 29, 2013, 10:04 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    Yeah, well I hope you aren't next to feel the weight of the IRS bulldozing through your life.
    What makes you think I'm a virgin? I've been audited several times. I just never thought I was TARGETED - until now. I'll bet I WAS. It happened during the Bush administration, and I WAS posting here. Duh! I can connect the dots..

    Excon
  • May 29, 2013, 10:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    Obviously you can't connect dots, the IRS confessed and you still see no problem. Nothing to see here, move along...
  • May 29, 2013, 07:46 PM
    talaniman
    Lefties were denied exemptions and the TParty was not.

    Meet the group the IRS actually denied: Democrats! - Salon.com

    Seems Obama could have done a better job of targeting his enemies.
  • May 29, 2013, 08:01 PM
    paraclete
    Don't tell me the iRS was even handed after all, well go figure!
  • May 30, 2013, 05:46 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    don't tell me the iRS was even handed afterall, well go figure!

    No they weren't . Their case is worse in that there was no denial... just endless delays and intrusions in matters unrelated to the application. Like I've already stated ;the delay is the equivalent of a denial .

    Again... it is absolutely undeniable that conservative groups applications were set aside for extra scrutiny . That is a known fact. The only reason they were is because they had conservative sounding names.

    This scandal isn't going away . In fact ,even in the IRS ,the investigation is much broader than we know. The IRS a week ago issued a "top priority" e-mail ordering its employees not to "wipe, re-image or otherwise destroy any hard drives"on any computer. If anything this scandal is going to grow... not go away .
  • May 30, 2013, 06:23 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:
    Quote:

    Like I've already stated ;the delay is the equivalent of a denial .
    Couple things. Pursuant to the IRS, when the IRS approves a timely filed exemption application, exempt status is recognized back to the date the organization was created. Thus, while an application is pending, the organization can treat itself as exempt..

    So, your assertion is bunk. Most of the 501(c)4's are operating with their application "pending".

    Secondarily, I WELCOME the continuing investigation. Every day, I am MORE and MORE convinced that there's NO scandal here. At most, it's bad management, and LACK of oversight by congress.

    Look. If I hated Obama like YOU hate him, I'd latch on to every scintilla of scandal I could, too.

    Excon
  • May 30, 2013, 06:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    When someone that has applied for that exemption has been hassled by the IRS, EPA and 9 other government agencies it kind of hinders one's ability to do much besides fight the man. You hate the man don't you? I can never tell if you love or hate the man, it's very confusing.
  • May 30, 2013, 06:45 AM
    tomder55
    As you deny hatred of Bush ,I also deny hatred of Obama.
  • May 30, 2013, 08:12 AM
    speechlesstx
    My that Shulman fellow was awfully chummy with Obama.

    Quote:

    Publicly released records show that embattled former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times during the Obama administration, more recorded visits than even the most trusted members of the president’s Cabinet.

    Read more: Shulman had more White House visits than any cabinet member | The Daily Caller
    May not mean anything, but still curious. Obviously it wasn't 157 Easter Egg Rolls.

    P.S. For Tal and all those fighting the one percenters, I also noticed on there another curious name on that list that was awfully chummy, Obama fundraiser and Commerce Secretary nominee Penny Pritzker. She's worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.7 BILLION, partly earned from depositors before her bank collapsed.
  • May 30, 2013, 08:14 AM
    NeedKarma
    Where are the records of who visited Bush how many times?

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