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Hello again, Steve:

I dunno.. People who think it's cool for Mark Sanford to come back, but not Anthony Wiener are hypocrites..

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Did I miss where I thought it was cool for Sanford to stage a comeback or suggest Weiner's wasn't? I didn't think so.

Now, can't you just laugh at anything any more, or has the whole scandal-fest turned you into more of a curmudgeon?

You're talking about NYC . They send Charlie Rangel back to DC dutifully every 2 years . We are the state that sent Bobby Kennedy to the Senate even though his residency was a hotel address . We sent a carpet-bagger from Arkansas to the Senate and propelled her to becoming the most incompetent Sec State in history. (Weiner's wife ;a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer, still works for Evita) . This is the NYC that allowed the ultimate 1%er to change the rules ala Hugo Chavez so he could get a 3rd term... just because he felt like it... and now that his term has come to an end ;the law was changed back to the two term minimum.
So is it conceivable that Weiner could win ? Absolutely ! He has more name recognition than any of the Tammaney Hall candidates.

Oddly, this isn't really an "it's come to this" moment any more because Dems actually believe this nonsense...

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Ellison: ‘Really Disappointing’ That Apple Doesn’t Want to Pay More Taxes

Representative Keith Ellison (D. Minn.) just can’t wrap his head around why Apple wouldn’t “step up” to pay more in taxes.

“It seems to me they ought to want to help to pay the expenses of this country, so that everybody can have a fair shot,” Ellison said on MSNBC’s The Ed Show over the weekend.

Ellison found it “really disappointing” that Apple wasn’t willing to pay higher taxes, arguing that it “wouldn’t be a multi-billion-dollar corporation but for the fact that the United States of America made it possible for them to be that successful.”

“Taxes are not a punishment,” he explained, “taxes are the dues we pay to live in a civilized society.”

Apple’s CEO Tim Cook testified before a Senate subcommittee last week over the company’s tax-avoidance practices. Schultz later questioned whether what Apple was engaging in was “morally right,” concluding ”I don’t think they’ve got warm blood, I really don’t.”

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Odd that Apple, like virtually everyone else (probably Mr. Ellison included), would want to protect its interests isn't it? It seems Apple has a ton of cash overseas (shocking isn't it?) and doesn't want to pay the enormous cost of repatriating those dollars which means they won't be investing those dollars here at home. So the Ellisons of this world can only see a cold-blooded corporation unwilling to pay their "fair share" to pay for government benefits to another few hundred thousand illegals and bad teachers to collect their salary for doing nothing.

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a cold-blooded corporation unwilling to pay their "fair share" to pay for government benefits to another few hundred thousand illegals and bad teachers to collect their salary for doing nothing.

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There is no arguing with that logic.

Actually like the bank crisis Apple would be in a very uncompetitive position because all the multinationals companies do the same thing regarding taxes.

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pay for government benefits to another few hundred thousand illegals and bad teachers to collect their salary for doing nothing.

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You don't want to pay anything to unemployed and poor Americans so lumping illegals in is no surprise, but I bet Oklahoma and Sandy Hook don't vilify their teachers the way you do.

You see ;if Ellison was truly interested in the public interest he would negotiate a repatriation deal like Rand Paul proposed .
I have a bill that would repatriate profits from foreign companies at 5 percent and put it into infrastructure. Our country is woefully short of money for infrastructure. But you're not going to get it at 35 percent--- you are getting zero. Let's make it 5 percent and create and infrastructure fund.

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You don't want to pay anything to unemployed and poor Americans so lumping illegals in is no surprise, but I bet Oklahoma and Sandy Hook don't vilify their teachers the way you do.

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So you would rather take our tax dollars and give them to people here illegally instead of my disabled daughter and pay bad teachers for doing nothing instead of firing them. Glad you cleared that up.

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So you would rather take our tax dollars and give them to people here illegally instead of my disabled daughter

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Those are the only two options? Really?

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Those are the only two options? Really?

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No.

That's what I thought. It was the only two you mentioned so it really is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dichotomy

Have a nice life.

Thank you :) You as well!

White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler has been linked as a significant cog in both the IRS and Benghazi talking points affairs, and WaPo's political section The Fix has this gripping report:

A White House counsel known for her shoes

Well, that was a revelation of significant national importance.

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you see ;if Ellison was truely interested in the public interest he would negotiate a repatriation deal like Rand Paul proposed .
I have a bill that would repatriate profits from foreign companies at 5 percent and put it into infrastructure. Our country is woefully short of money for infrastructure. But you're not going to get it at 35 percent--- you are getting zero. Let's make it 5 percent and create and infrastructure fund.

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Like the infrastructure bank the president has in the congress already? Public/private enterprise?

And with all the loopholes the rich have written for their own gains, I doubt seriously any one pays 35%.

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So you would rather take our tax dollars and give them to people here illegally instead of my disabled daughter and pay bad teachers for doing nothing instead of firing them. Glad you cleared that up.

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I would rather have a solution that helps all our daughters and sons, and the poor old, and kids. Not just your daughter. Sorry guys, but I have seen all this before, nothing new, and no improvements were made then, and I doubt any will be made now, so excuse me for not being as outraged by our shortcomings as a nation as you seem to always be.

Well yeah ,there are similarities .But there are also big differences in funding with the Obots still obsessed with surcharges taxing the rich. It has bipartisan support with modifiers Can't waste any more money on Solyndra types schemes; or silly high speed rail to nowhere... that sort of stuff .

The Senate is only this year considering passing a budget . Perhaps it will move through Congress this year being ironed out in a conference committee.

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I would rather have a solution that helps all our daughters and sons, and the poor old, and kids. Not just your daughter. Sorry guys, but I have seen all this before, nothing new, and no improvements were made then, and I doubt any will be made now, so excuse me for not being as outraged by our shortcomings as a nation as you seem to always be.

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At least not while your side is in power and screwing things up.

Its not about whose in power, but about how both sides address the issues that cause us problems. Your side has had the power too, and never solved any problems either. Both sides have failed us haven't they?

Absolutely both sides have failed us, but why should Apple volunteer for punitive taxation? Do you believe as Ellison does they should and if so, why? Why should anyone WANT to give the feds more money to squander?

Forget volunteering to pay more taxes. Rewrite the LAW. Be nice if hey built there stuff here and let the sweat shops close, but that's unlikely when they count their money, and the completion does to.

I don't see it as a hard thing to write the law that incentivizes having jobs here. And since there not here they should be compelled to pay. But making the US into a third world sweat shop sure isn't the answer to me. We can do better than that, and should.

And its not just Apple, but the entire industry that's the problem.

The problem tal is the profit motive, there should be a supertax on profits, particularly those earned on the back of third world slavery. So we should decide what is a reasonable return on capital, say 15% and everythingelse is returned to the government coffers. It would pay down the debt very quickly and curb a few CEO salaries and packages which they didn't earn anyway. Anyone can make a decision to exploit, it isn't brilliant business strategy.There should be a supertax on personal earnings above a certain level also. If Bill gates can give it away before it is taken so can others