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Originally Posted by talaniman

I never said all the loonies were white. I never said all the conservatives were white. Doesn't matter to me, the conservative right are loonies, and the further right they are, the crazier they talk.

And your point would be what?

Fall of your meds?

5 years ago you were whining about imaginary things Bush was doing that violated nobodies rights or any law... and now you are defending the indefensible by a raving lunatic communist who is bent on destroying the Bill of Rights AND the COnstitution because he finds it gets in the way of his anti-american agenda... but you call the Right wingers crazy...

Hell the first witch publicly said she was ashamed to be an American not once but several times...

And that is the kind of person the lefties look up to... thats beyond pathetic.

Obviously liberals never listen to themselves or each other. Or loony is just normal to them.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Fall of your meds?

5 years ago you were whining about imaginary things Bush was doing that violated nobodies rights or any law........and now you are defending the indefensible by a raving lunatic communist who is bent on destroying the Bill of Rights AND the COnstitution because he finds it gets in the way of his anti-american agenda.....but you call the Right wingers crazy....

Hell the first witch publicly said she was ashamed to be an American not once but several times.....

And that is the kind of person the lefties look up to........thats beyond pathetic.

That's your loony version of the truth and your welcome to it.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Obviously liberals never listen to themselves or each other. Or loony is just normal to them.

If I am crazy for thinking things can be done in a reasonable positive fair way, okay I'm as crazy as you who don't thinks so.

And Bush was a compassionate idiot. He meant well, but he turned the spicket off on trickle down economics. Didn't help that YOU guys didn't want to help clean up the mess.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I know you're not good at actually arguing. You'd rather throw up a bumper sticker... But, please TRY to tell me how a universal background check oppresses you?

You HAVE read where I've mentioned that a universal background check would STOP people like me from getting guns. I cannot imagine, WHY a right winger would be AGAINST a law that PREVENTED people like me from getting guns.

You're not going to tell me that I can pick one up in the hood for a few bucks, are you??? Really???

excon

Pick me Pick me!!

If the universal background check includes the keeping of records so as to record what I own rather then a spot check during the purchase period then it steps all over my rights to privacy. The name may be uder universal background check but if it actually is universal gun registration then I would be against it.

All through history the first thing a supressive tyranical government does is have a gun grab. If the know where they are then it makes it that much easier to control.

Should they be involved in the purchase process (yes). But after that they have no business regulating usage. The common law has always been innocent before guilt.

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Originally Posted by cdad

supressive tyranical government

No chance of this in THIS country! Too many checks and balances.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No chance of this in THIS country! Too many checks and balances.

Too late... we are there now... and this is the 5th year of it.

Hello dad:

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Pick me Pick me!!

Why? We agree. There should be no records kept.

I want to argue with people who think that felons like me, will get guns EVEN if there IS a background check...

Excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No chance of this in THIS country! Too many checks and balances.

I don't see anyone checking Zero's power grabs.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No chance of this in THIS country! Too many checks and balances.

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to what is going on around you. This country is at a point of self destruction. There are 2 roads to be taken and if the right choices can not be made then its all going to end. People need to wake up and be informed about government and what is going on from the local levels on up. Most here on AMHD are fairly well informed on the issues but we have a great amount of the population that is sadly grossly uninformed. Just look at how many we get here that can't even figure out that having sex can make a baby. And these people have the right to vote. It is not as it used to be where people got involved and knew not only their neighbors but the community they lived in.
Be responsible and stay informed. Its your job as a citizen to do so.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello dad:

Why? We agree. There should be no records kept.

I wanna argue with people who think that felons like me, will get guns EVEN if there IS a background check...

excon

I do conceed that at the current time and under the current conditions there does exist routes that are favorable for someone that can not own or purchase a gun to get one.

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Originally Posted by cdad

Be responsible and stay informed. Its your job as a citizen to do so.

So why do the Republicans refuse to become socially active and make changes/teach classes/volunteer at schools and libraries and literacy centers?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

It was. The problem is the right wing still thinks their puny assault weapons are gonna do the job

FYI, they aren't "assault weapons" any more. According to our President and his VP they are "weapons of war" now. Shame your president can't make his case without fear mongering, shame, politicizing a tragedy. And now blatant, deliberate deception.

Oh yeah, Biden also confirmed what we've been saying, the current gun control effort is "just the beginning."

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

So why do the Republicans refuse to become socially active and make changes/teach classes/volunteer at schools and libraries and literacy centers?

Many that I know do and they give back to the community at large. They realize that they have done well and encourage others to do so.

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Originally Posted by cdad

Many that I know do and they give back to the community at large. They realize that they have done well and encourage others to do so.

So they are social activists and agents of social change?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No chance of this in THIS country! Too many checks and balances.

Lol tyranny usually comes with thunderous applause from the compliant sheeple . Maybe you should tell that to the survivors of Roosevelt's decision to put Japanese Americans in concentration camps.

BTW ;the checks and balances that would prevent that ? Here it is .
Korematsu v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

So they are social activists and agents of social change?

No they are leaders by example. Its up to the others to follow them. Its not about forcing a change. That is what social activists do. Force their ideas on others.

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Originally Posted by cdad

No they are leaders by example. Its up to the others to follow them. Its not about forcing a change. That is what social activists do. Force their ideas on others.

So they just stand there looking suave but are not sweating in the trenches serving as volunteers who "force their ideas" by trying to rescue failing schools or teach ESL/literacy to immigrants or tutor in after-school programs. Got it!

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

So they just stand there looking suave but are not sweating in the trenches serving as volunteers who "force their ideas" by trying to rescue failing schools or teach ESL/literacy to immigrants or tutor in after-school programs. Got it!

You are entitled to your opinion. Should you find any like you describe let me know. Maybe even provide a link so we can all check it out.

Because what your spewing today doesn't come close to the real world most of us live in.

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Originally Posted by cdad

You are entitled to your opinion. Should you find any like you describe let me know. Maybe even provide a link so we can all check it out.

Because what your spewing today doesnt come close to the real world most of us live in.

Schools and libraries around here are filled with efforts like I described.

Here's an idea, how about we use the bazillions of tax dollars we spend on this to educate kids instead of indoctrinating them and propping up the teachers unions and keeping bad teachers on the payroll?