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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve;

Well, we got our Michael Moors and Bill Mahrs, and you got your Ted Nugents, and Chuck Norris's.

Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

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I'm still not tom, and you can have your morons.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Wondergirl was especially thinking about the egocentric values that WHITE actors and directors et al. are subtly shoving onto our youth.

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Ah, so the black actors and directors are innocent.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Ah, so the black actors and directors are innocent.

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I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.

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I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.

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So in other words ,they responded to customer desires. That doesn't sound like the WHITE producers are deciding anything except to satisfy the customer's demands .

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so in other words ,they responded to customer desires. That doesn't sound like the WHITE producers are deciding anything except to satisfy the customer's demands .

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But it does show that consumers (and many of these are 50 and older) do have some power. Unfortunately, most of the younger consumers are sheeple that happily swallow what they are being fed.

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I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.

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Didn't you read the lyrics I linked to? Have you never seen self-absorbed black athletes making an a$$ of themselves while adoring youth hang on their every move and buy their $200 sneakers. Those young blacks aren't watching your beloved soap, and as tom said that other stuff is in demand. It wouldn't be that way or it would be less so were it not for the "anything goes" culture cultivated by the left.

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Didn't you read the lyrics I linked to?

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No, I didn't. And most people don't. It's a corner market. I'm speaking about what is the in-your-face part of American TV and movie culture.

I don't hear Carrie Underwood rattling my windows and shaking my car every day. What the kids (a most impressionable corner market) I'm referring to watch and listen to is what's relevant here. Have you watched MTV lately?

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Have you watched MTV lately?

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No, the basic TV stations and FOX. That's enough to rattle my chains.

This is rapidly going back to the hoodie issue. And yes ,like the sneakers and the pants that hang below the waist, the hoodie is part of the uniform and becomes part of the identity of the person wheter they intend it or not . The same was true in the 1950s with the black jacket and greaser look ,or the 1960s and tie dyed look identified you .

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No, the basic TV stations and FOX. That's enough to rattle my chains.

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If this were a white kid shooting up a school everyone would be blaming violent video games and such. I don't see anyone blaming violent TV, movies and music - much less any national outrage - over a black kid shooting a 13 month old white baby in its stroller.

On the other hand time to recognize a hero.

Lancaster teen Temar Boggs hailed as a hero in 5-year-old's abduction - News

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Even prime-time sitcoms aren't sacred any longer. I'm so glad my kids are adults and I don't have to monitor their TV watching. Whatever happened to I Love Lucy and The Ed Sullivan Show??? Sex and bathroom humor are everywhere -- or am I just getting old? (Sorry -- I'm off topic but had to vent.)

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You also have to give a nod to shows like Red Skelton and ground breaking ones like Sanford and Son as well as All in the Family.

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You also have to give a nod to shows like Red Skelton and ground breaking ones like Sanford and Son as well as All in the Family.

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Definitely -- and many more of that ilk.

Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News

There seems to be different standards of the stand your ground laws in Florida.

That case is really unfair. I was shocked that it happened in Florida, you expect that in Canada or Britain. It's an obvious double standard, if someone who is poor or a minority defends themselves, prosecutors love to pick on them. If someone is white and a wealthy, prominent member of their community, they won't even be charged. I think everyone should have an equal right to defend themselves. Reminds me of that saying "you're innocent until proven broke."

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Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News

There seems to be different standards of the stand your ground laws in Florida.

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Doesn't appear to be a different standard. I agree with the judge. They had a means to leave without violence. The getting the gun and coming back is what changed the outcome as far as the law was concerned.

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That case is really unfair. I was shocked that it happened in Florida, you expect that in Canada or Britain. It's an obvious double standard, if someone who is poor or a minority defends themselves, prosecutors love to pick on them. If someone is white and a wealthy, prominent member of their community, they won't even be charged. I think everyone should have an equal right to defend themselves. Reminds me of that saying "you're innocent until proven broke."

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Why is it unfair?

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Why is it unfair?

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Is that a rhetorical question? Did you read the Marissa Alexander case?

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Is that a rhetorical question? Did you read the Marissa Alexander case?

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Yes I read what I could. They wanted money to get the deposition. But according to what was stated the woman left and came back with a gun. There is a big difference between eminent danger and someone threatening with a gun.


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In August 2011, a judge rejected a motion by Alexander's attorney to grant her immunity under the "stand your ground" law. According to the judge's order, "there is insufficient evidence that the Defendant reasonably believed deadly force was needed to prevent death or great bodily harm to herself," and that the fact that she came back into the home, instead of leaving out the front or back door "is inconsistent with a person who is in genuine fear for her life."