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Originally Posted by califdadof3

Its for the same reason they want us to stop smoking because we may die early and then we wont get the social security that doesnt exist.

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Hello again, dad:

We agree. The government DOES have an interest in stopping us from smoking cigarettes... Over the last 25 years, they've been VERY successful at it too,. At least HALF of the 50 million Americans who smoked, quit.

And, we did all that WITHOUT banning cigarettes, or putting a single person in jail.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, dad:

We agree. The government DOES have an interest in stopping us from smoking cigarettes... Over the last 25 years, they've been VERY successful at it too, ... At least HALF of the 50 million Americans who smoked, quit.

And, we did all that WITHOUT banning cigarettes, or putting a single person in jail.

excon

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I really think it depends on what you see as banning and non arrest. They did ban the sale in places and also restrict where product use could occur. They eliminated vending machines and took away private rights of business to run as they wish. Also placing fines and threat of arrest on persons not wanting to follow "thier" rules.

And on top of all that it just amazes me how they keep raising taxes on cigarettes and cliam its for health costs then decry how much a smoker costs the system. All the while wondering why they are losing revenue.

But that's our goobermint at work.

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

I really think it depends on what you see as banning and non arrest.

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Hello again, dad:

I don't see the campaign against tobacco even remotely similar to the drug war. Yes, there were government imposed restrictions.. I don't agree with ANY of them. What I think did the trick, was first and foremost, the TRUTH was exposed that cigarettes cause cancer. Then that truth was broadcast across the nation, tirelessly. That, PR campaign, in my view, had the biggest impact with the least restrictions.

If we simply told the truth about drugs, we'd have a similar result.

excon

The problem with the truth is how you digest it. What works for me doesn't mean it works for you. I heard a new anti smoking campaign going now that claims 1 cigarette can kill you. Ive never seen nor heard that in my lifetime.

And even when the truth is available people tend to ignore it for their own interests. Ive seen the list and it can be found online for what goes into making crack. I can't believe any person in their right mind would smoke or otherwise do anything that was made with battery acid. Go figure.

There is no real war on drugs. Its simply a control issue and a way to trample rights. Some states tax drugs that are illegal. Again go figure.

King County bans public e-cigarette smoking

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The King County Board of Health passed a controversial proposal Thursday that bans the public use of electronic cigarettes, despite protests that the battery-powered, nicotine-delivery sticks emit no second-hand smoke and are often used for harm reduction.

The measure is not a complete ban on e-cigarettes. Rather, it prohibits e-cigarette smoking in the same places where real smoking is forbidden by the state, such as restaurants, bars and workplaces.

But the state's tobacco smoking ban, adopted in 2006, was based on the fact that second-hand smoke causes cancer and other diseases. The rationale behind King County's e-cig ban was a fear of eroding "social norms."

Health officials reasoned that the fake smokes - which emit a less-smelly, combustion-free vapor - are so similar to real smokes that they may cause people to think it's OK to smoke in public. And that may lead to more nicotine addiction and second-hand smoke, officials said.

"By returning smoking to the public eye, public e-cigarette use threatens to undermine the social norming impact" of the smoking ban, testified Scott Neal, manager of the tobacco prevention program for Public Health -- Seattle & King County.

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You have GOT to be kidding me.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You have GOT to be kidding me.

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Hello again, Steve:

Yeah... A cop saw me smokin one... He threw me on the ground and told me he was going to "beat the e-smoke outta me, homey..." I don't know why he called me homey.

excon

I've been wondering about this ever since the faux outrage began, how in God's name did this administration manage to get an absurd ban on a perfectly legal product in such a short time? I'm speaking of Four Loko.



As the video points out and I wondered, are they going to come after your rum and Coke next? Make you take a breathalyzer test if you go for coffee after 9:00 p.m.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I've been wondering about this ever since the faux outrage began, how in God's name did this administration manage to get an absurd ban on a perfectly legal product in such a short time? I'm speaking of Four Loko.

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Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, banning drugs... Those bastards... What's next? Pot?

excon

As if Schmucky, the guy that pressed for this ban and pushes NY wine sales isn't a hypocrite? I bet he's never had a cup of coffee after one of his wine and sandwich commutes to DC.

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Originally Posted by excon

Yeah, banning drugs... Those bastards... What's next? Pot??

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You have an unlikely ally, Pat Robertson.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You have an unlikely ally, Pat Robertson.

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Hehe, not the spokesman anyone would want for any issue. He's a little cuckoo.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Hehe, not the spokesman anyone would want for any issue. He's a little cuckoo.

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Why are you always hung up on the messenger instead of the message?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Why are you always hung up on the messenger instead of the message?

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LOL! Your post was about the messenger. :D

Steve why the Colts insigne ?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

LOL! Your post was about the messenger. :D

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And the message he sent.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You have an unlikely ally, Pat Robertson

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Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, the old codger finally came around... I don't know what's gotten into him. How can somebody go his whole life thinking that people should be in JAIL for smoking pot, and then change his mind. It's mind boggling...

I'm a funny guy... Every single crime that I think somebody should be in jail for, they actually, really SHOULD be in jail for.

excon

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Oh really? I can't think of one fat kid that I know, I don't see fat kids running around the neighborhood or walking around the schools.

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I'm a little late to the party but you defintely need to get out more if you don't see obese kids anywhere.

The E-Cig ban is ridiculous and everything else you guys are talking about I have no knowledge on.

P.S. I dislike Peyton "6.6sec 40" Manning

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Originally Posted by ITstudent2006

I'm a little late to the party but you defintely need to get out more if you don't see obese kids anywhere.

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I live in a neighborhood with kids, pass a high school every morning on the way to work, see dozens and dozens at church every week... heck, I have 40 something nieces and nephews. I still can't think of a fat kid among the bunch. I should know, I'm me.

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P.S. I dislike Peyton "6.6sec 40" Manning

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I have no idea what "6.6sec 40" refers to, but I'm a huge fan of the guy.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Steve why the Colts insigne ?

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It was an inside joke, tom. But, since my Cowboys suck so bad I might as well pull for someone else to win it all. I see the Gnats rolled over again, too.

For you to think there's not an obesity issue just because you don't see "fat kids" is ridiculous. Just because I've never seen a Roll's Royce doesn't mean they don't exist.

THe 6.6sec 40 is referring to his 40 time. Obviously he doesn't run a 6.6 but I am referring to how slow the guy is. It makes me laugh when I watch him (or Eli) try to scramble for a few yeards. :D