Imagine the rest -- I gave him a very huge piece of my mind. And never went out with him again.
Stop embroidering.
Men DO assault women all the time. And get them pregnsnt. If your daughter or granddsughter was assaulted and got pregnant, then what?
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Imagine the rest -- I gave him a very huge piece of my mind. And never went out with him again.
Stop embroidering.
Men DO assault women all the time. And get them pregnsnt. If your daughter or granddsughter was assaulted and got pregnant, then what?
And the story changes yet again. It is hard to think that "imagine the rest" was somehow intended to convey the far from shocking idea of you giving the boy a "very huge" chunk of your mind and never going out with him again. So that's change #7 or so? A good witness in a trial you would not be. I'm afraid you'd end up in jail for perjury.Quote:
Imagine the rest -- I gave him a very huge piece of my mind. And never went out with him again.
You told that highly malleable story to convey the idea that a female never knows what kind of person she is dealing with when a woman goes out with a man. I gave some suggestions of how she could protect herself against that. You've never given your ideas. How should a woman protect herself from the possibility of dating a guy who is far too aggressive, especially in our present culture when practically all television shows and movies depict women as every bit as sexually eager as men with a corresponding expectation of intimacy on the first date?
If your daughter or granddaughter was assaulted and got pregnant, then what? Would she carry the fetus to term, then keep it? Give it up for adoption?
I'm a writer and saw you were bored. It kept you awake, didn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
From today's column by Clarence Page:
One of the laws the Supreme Court justices are considering is a Mississippi law that makes most abortions illegal after 15 weeks of pregnancy, about two months earlier than Roe and later decisions allow. Mississippi lawmakers last year rejected a bill that would have let mothers keep their Medicaid coverage for a year after giving birth, up from the current two months.
Once again, we see in Mississippi a sad case of “right to life” advocates whose concern for the unborn appears to evaporate as soon as they’re born.
The likely result is to make abortion unsafe, illegal and even more tragic.
And from today's Voice of the people:
Consequences for men?
After hearing the details of the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade and listening to the discussions about its fallout, I have
regretfully heard not one consequence that any male participant suffers. Except for men’s part in conception, no man will have to anxiously await the unwanted results of a pregnancy test, have to delve into the deepest part of his soul for guidance or make the life-altering decision to terminate a pregnancy.
And even if a mother decides against abortion, unless the man involved admits to his fatherhood or chooses to become a part of that child’s life, it seems the woman is not only carrying the child in her body but she is also permanently responsible for the child’s well-being and rearing. In some cases, the biological father does not carry that burden, and the mother must rely on a court for financial assistance. Even in those situations, the biological father can opt out of his child’s life.
So for all of the outrage of a woman’s decision to abort a fetus, where is the outrage when a biological father has no responsibility to the happiness, security or welfare of his child? Are the states that are so aggressively pro-life willing to identify and force biological fathers to be financially responsible for their children? Are they willing to force these men to be active parents? Is such a mandate possible?
Yes, adoption is one option for a woman’s pregnancy, but again, this is a decision primarily made by the mother, sometimes with regret and lifelong grief.
I have not heard any pro-life advocates speak about any intolerable anxiety or grief that any man suffers when a decision to terminate is made. I hear only about the righteous indignation of pro-life advocates when they speak of women killing their babies. So women, besides being the procreators, live with a potential human being in their wombs, have to make a monumental decision regarding their personal health and child-raising ability, and suffer the legal and moral consequences if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
Sounds like it is a “man’s world.”
only men support laws to protect babies from infanticide ?
Fiction is certainly your specialty. I don't intend that to be mean, but it's difficult to have a serious discussion with a person who seems to have but little regard for the truth.Quote:
I'm a writer and saw you were bored. It kept you awake, didn't it.
His column is about as full of falsehoods as a recent fake story was. The statement above is flatly wrong. Our organization helps a number of women with raising their children and our state is awash in crisis pregnancy centers, all run, I might point out, by pro-lifers. It's just another fake-news column by a person who thinks the killing of unborn children is the answer for the irresponsible behavior of adults. The lying news media is going to go into high gear in an attempt to panic the American people.Quote:
Once again, we see in Mississippi a sad case of “right to life” advocates whose concern for the unborn appears to evaporate as soon as they’re born.
One thing about men . A man who would have his baby killed so as not to be stuck with the mom is probably not a good choice to hook up with .
And she doesn't. Plus, he denies it's his. Watch Maury Povich's show weekday mornings. DNA tests galore! (requested by the mothers)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
no can do . I have a lifeQuote:
Watch Maury Povich's show weekday mornings.
I think we are on to a problem here.Quote:
Watch Maury Povich's show weekday mornings.
You don't want to see men in denial faced with DNA results that prove they are fathers? And pump your fist when you see the crestfallen and despondent looks on their faces once they realize they now will be required to be responsible parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It's not that. I just prefer to watch shows of a considerably more serious nature.
At any rate, I don't know of anyone who would not agree with the necessity of having men step up to the plate and support the children they father, but at the same time it would be desirable in the extreme for women to behave responsibly and refuse to sleep with any man who is not that woman's husband. That is one of the great purposes of marriage. It is a marvelously simple solution to the problem.
I'll say one thing. Any of those clowns protesting on the steps of SCOTUS are not men to marry . They only want to get into the pants of women without any responsibility or consequences .
Ah, sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That's why the guy rapes her; she refuses, is too lacking in muscle power to get the upper hand.Quote:
At any rate, I don't know of anyone who would not agree with the necessity of having men step up to the plate and support the children they father, but at the same time it would be desirable in the extreme for women to behave responsibly and refuse to sleep with any man who is not that woman's husband. That is one of the great purposes of marriage. It is a marvelously simple solution to the problem.
Be sure to tell men about those great purposes of marriage.
Even that is better than Povich. Still, I watch very little in sports.Quote:
Ah, sports.
I do so frequently. You might want to try championing marriage yourself. It is far preferable to having a doctor kill a woman's unborn child.Quote:
Be sure to tell men about those great purposes of marriage.
I do so at every opportunity. But that's not what men -- and yes, women -- want to bother with, to commit to one person. Movies, tv dramas and sitcoms, novels, magazine articles all encourage the joys of life as a single and without the burden of kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I completely agree with that. That's why believers in Jesus need to lift up the banner of righteousness and advance marriage. The, "joys of life as a single and without the burden of kids," is scarcely worth the lives of over 900,000 children a year.
For me, getting married was the best decision I ever made aside from committing my life to Christ. My wife has done a lot for me. She is amazing.
Summer of rage
Abortion rights protesters rally across the U.S. in hundreds of 'Bans Off Our Bodies' marches | CBC News
So they will stage a 'summer of rage ' because some babies get a chance to live.
And then there's this: During the early part of Wednesday's congressional hearing on abortion access, this GOP-summoned witness said: "In places like Washington D.C.," fetuses are "burned to power the light's of the city's homes and streets," claimed Catherine Glenn Foster.
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