The law says abortions are legal in the first trimester, so the onus is on the female is to be educated about what to do as soon as she knows she is pregnant (typically after 4 weeks approx.) and to me that means consulting her doctor... If she can afford one, or has one.

If not she still needs options. Unbiased knowledgeable options.

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I know we'll never agree on this.

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The law says abortions are legal in the first trimester, so the onus is on the female is to be educated about what to do as soon as she knows she is pregnant (typically after 4 weeks approx.) and to me that means consulting her doctor.............................If she can afford one, or has one.

If not she still needs options. Unbiased knowledgeable options.

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You mean the law imposed on us by SCOTUS.. but that's another op.

Why are the choices, and options, and opportunities of others, under the law, such an imposition on YOU?

"on me " they are not . I'm interested in protecting the life of the most innocent from arbitrary state sanctioned murder.

At least we've finally found a regulation libs don't love. It just happens to be one that protects women but no biggie there, right?

Dewhurst is looking into reports that media members were inciting the mob at the vote the other day.

Dewhurst: I’ll pass the late-term abortion ban — and “take action against” those who incited demonstration « Hot Air

I wouldn't doubt it considering their breathless coverage of the left's war on children. I guess they forgot there are cameras rolling.

In case you missed it the left's newest superstar and media sensation (or do I repeat myself?) made the Sunday show rounds yesterday for all manner of fluff, hero worship, fashion talk and the "how many ways can you avoid saying 'abortion'" game. The money quote?

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WENDY DAVIS: You know, I think really what's happening here, Bob, is politicians are using this issue to boost their own political aspirations, their own political aspirations, their own political ambitions

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Ya don't say.

P.S. For those whining about what the width of the doors has to do with this (which I had already answered), a note from David Freddoso via the Gosnell trial:

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The grand jury noted that even after Gosnell's unqualified, unlicensed staff had (at his direction) given her a lethal overdose of local anesthetic, she might have still been saved but for the clinic's "cluttered," "narrow, twisted passageways" which "could not accommodate a stretcher" to get her out. Mongar still had a pulse when paramedics arrived, but they lost a critical 20 minutes just trying to get her out of the building.

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But remember, emergency access has nothing to do with protecting the health of the woman.

It's come to this... the pro-abortion mob chants "hail Satan" as pro-life women share their abortion related testimonies and sing Amazing Grace in the Texas capitol's rotunda.



Yes, really. CNN reported it, too.

No one is ever "pro-abortion". FYI.

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Then why the bumper stickers and t-shirts?

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/745948...idth=460&qv=90
http://i1.cpcache.com/product/970590...idth=460&qv=90

FYI, the reality is they do love abortion but they'll call it anything but (as I noted above) and few admit it outright.

I Love Abortion: Implying Otherwise Accomplishes Nothing for Women’s Rights

I'm quite certain that the vast majority of women do not share the opinion of the nutcase you dragged out in the open.

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I'm quite certain that the vast majority of women do not share the opinion of the nutcase you dragged out in the open.

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Yup. No woman I've ever known in my long life --- Christian, Muslim. Hindu, atheist, agnostic -- has ever been pro abortion.

He is right if you dig very deep into the breakdown of America you will see its all playing a part.

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I'm quite certain that the vast majority of women do not share the opinion of the nutcase you dragged out in the open.

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You guys can play your little games all day on this but I'm right. All this rhetoric about "women's health" and all that nonsense was exposed for the lie it is in light of the response by the pro-abortion crowd to the Gosnell trial. There was no concern for women's health, there was no concern for making abortion "safe and rare, and no sympathy for the child victims just as there was no effort to enforce standards that would have prevented that travesty.

And just as this Texas episode shows and ANY possible attempt at an abortion restriction, preserving the sacrament of abortion at all cost is the only concern. So as long as they misrepresent us and lie to women I will call it pro-abortion if I damn well feel like it. When you take that side to task for their misrepresentations, dodging the issue with all their euphemisms for abortion and the lies about "protecting" women I might consider your point.

P.S. Calling them what they are, pro-abortion is much more civilized than their mob tactics and chanting "hail Satan" at peaceful women exercising their rights, so deal with it.

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You guys can play your little games all day on this but I'm right.

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Ok, you don't need us then, just people that agree with you, regardless of any facts. Enjoy.

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Ok, you don't need us then, just people that agree with you, regardless of any facts. Enjoy.

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Irony alert, I'm not the one that just dismissed the facts but hey, the sooner more people conform to my view the better. Meanwhile, feel free to be wrong all you like.

Ramping up the war on women nationally...

Rubio to Introduce Senate Bill to Ban Abortions After 20 Weeks

So go ahead, tell me why abortions should still be legal after 20 weeks. That's 5 months. Here's an image of the baby at 20 weeks from MedicineNet to help you decide.

While you're pondering my last question, more of the pro-abortion crowd keepin' it classy...

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State senator Donna Campbell, who issued the third point of order against Davis’s filibuster (which ended it), has also been the target of extensive verbal abuse from pro-choice protesters, according to her spokesman Jon Oliver.

They’ve received Facebook messages and e-mails saying, “I hope you’re raped” and “I hope your daughter’s raped,” Oliver tells me.

“Lots of language — ‘You’re an effin’ blank,’ ‘You are a traitor to women’ — those kind of things,” Oliver says. “I wouldn’t say anything’s necessarily a direct threat, but they’re the kind of e-mails that make you a little nervous, especially when you start talking about family members: ‘I hope your family members are raped.’”

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And the photo of the day courtesy of the pro-abortion protesters.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOOJuIGCEAEJX3L.jpg:large

If you missed it, that's a little girl holding a sign saying "If I wanted the government in my womb I'd F*** a Senator."

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I'm quite certain that the vast majority of women do not share the opinion of the nutcase you dragged out in the open.

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I guess there is more then one running around these days ?

Girl Scouts Join Planned Parenthood at Huge Pro-Abortion Conference | LifeNews.com

Planned Parenthood Admits How Pro-Abortion They Are