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Yes,I know that. But dispatchers are not just some bums off the street. It was a reasonable order considering who and what Zimmerman was supposed to be, his purpose for being in that place, and what he might encounter if he left his vehicle. He, gun in hand, decided to play detective and vigilante.

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The direct testimony in the case proved this bogus . Noffke explained to the jury that as a 911 dispatcher, he is unable to issue direct orders to callers due to liability issues. He stated that it sounded like Zimmerman was running so he advised him not to follow Martin; however, he did not issue a direct order.George Zimmerman trial: 911 dispatcher Sean Noffke takes the stand - Tampa Bay Crime | Examiner.com

In other words ;Zimmerman was ALREADY OUT OF HIS CAR ;and running to try to find Martin. When Noffke advised him that he should not do that Zimmerman cut off the pursuit ,turned around and attempted to return to his car. THAT'S THE FACTS presented at the trial .

And there was no testimony suggesting Zimmerman was carrying his gun in his hand . The evidence at the trial ,that was not disputed by the prosecution ,was that Zimmerman's gun was holstered until the second he pulled it and shot Martin.

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Canada is like NY too, people often get charged just for pointing a gun or firing warning shots at intruders in their own home.

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NY State law makes a higher burden on the victim to try to escape than Florida requires.
Self-Defense Law in New York State

If anything the facts show how incredibly wrong the narrative has been. Instead of letting the facts speak for themselves we got this concoction built to stir the racial pot and the race baiters aren't going to let it go.

Meanwhile, where is the national outrage?

13 month old baby shot dead in stroller

What a sad state of affairs in that gun culture.

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What a sad state of affairs in that gun culture.

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I don't live in a "gun culture". And I live in Texas. There aren't people walking around with six shooters on their hips having gun fights at high noon. Guns are not the problem, the problem stems from cultivating a society where innocent life is disposable, families are unnecessary, values are whatever you want them to be, discipline is evil, accountability is passé, everyone is entitled to everything and the government leads the way in that by taking from one to give to another and those trying to restore some common sense are standing in the way of 'progress'. For starters.

Did you read the outrageous comments to the story?

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You kidding me right?? Holder is working as we speak to squash this travesty… 17 year old De'Marquise Elkins is black and Attorney General Holder doesn't want Black on white crime punished… Whites deserve it, right?? Cause who is the real victim here?? The child shot in the face? No… That was just a late term abortion… There is a democrat arguing that a child could be aborted up to two years old… So look to this brotha being set free with immunity in the coming days maybe a week…

De'Marquise Elkins shouldn't be breathing right now because a Concealed Carrying Citizen should have been there to prevent it… It would have bothered me in the least to put a 45 ACP in Mr De'Marquise Elkins Head…


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Race baiters stirring the pot over a tragedy?

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the problem stems from cultivating a society where innocent life is disposable, families are unnecessary, values are whatever you want them to be, discipline is evil, accountability is passe, everyone is entitled to everything and the government leads the way in that by taking from one to give to another and those trying to restore some common sense are standing in the way of 'progress'. For starters.

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To fix that, start with Hollywood and (cable) TV. Life imitates art.

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To fix that, start with Hollywood and (cable) TV. Life imitates art.

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I am all ears.

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I've suggested grassroots efforts in the past, but was told Republicans wouldn't be interested in such a thing.

Yes ,I'm not particularly interested in censorship . And that comes from someone who regularly calls the place Hollywierd .

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Good luck with that, you might start with trying to convince the gangsta/hip hop music culture.

Hello again, Steve:

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gangsta/hip hop music culture.

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Profile much?

Excon

The US rating system has long been set up to allow more violence than most any other country in the world.

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Hello again, Steve:
Profile much?

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So you got the memo.

George Zimmerman and the new age of “profiling” « Hot Air

What's funny is I'm profiled here every day and you never complain. In fact you join in. But anyway, Wondergirl pointed at Hollywood and I'm just expanding on that. Only a fool would disregard the violent, misogynistic crap being fed to our youth. (content warning).

2 Chainz

" Authorities report widespread not rioting all over the country in the wake of the Zimmerman trial verdict, as many as zero people have been killed or injured in the lack of violence so far "

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Wondergirl was especially thinking about the egocentric values that WHITE actors and directors et al. are subtly shoving onto our youth.

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Wondergirl was especially thinking about the egocentric values that WHITE actors and directors et al. are subtly shoving onto our youth.

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Or as the Red Hot Chile Peppers call it 'Californication'. Yes they are as complicit as anyone else in the celebrity worship society .

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or as the Red Hot Chile Peppers call it 'Californication'. Yes they are as complicit as anyone else in the celebrity worship society .

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Even prime-time sitcoms aren't sacred any longer. I'm so glad my kids are adults and I don't have to monitor their TV watching. Whatever happened to I Love Lucy and The Ed Sullivan Show?? Sex and bathroom humor are everywhere -- or am I just getting old? (Sorry -- I'm off topic but had to vent.)

Hello again, Steve;

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Well, we got our Michael Moors and Bill Mahrs, and you got your Ted Nugents, and Chuck Norris's.

Bwa, ha ha ha.

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Hello again, Steve;

Well, we got our Michael Moors and Bill Mahrs, and you got your Ted Nugents, and Chuck Norris's.

Bwa, ha ha ha.

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The secret is to know what they are... people who are good at memorizing lines... sort of like our politicians (although some require teleprompters ) . Like I said... I'm not into censoring . I'll call the Michael Moron's of the world what they are... but I won't try to attempt to censor or boycott him... On the contrary ;I've seen his films and read his books .