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Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Wrong again... But, you're consistent. In any case, the point you make is valid... It's OK to ban stuff you DON'T like, but it's NOT OK to ban stuff you LIKE.
I understand... Really, I do.
excon
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
We're not talking about product... We're talking about parents not being able to discipline their children. On the one hand, you think they ARE, but on the other, you think they AREN'T...
Again, I understand completely. I do... Really.
excon
POT IS a drug... you wouldn't get HIGH if it wasn't... You don't get stoned eating a sourdough Roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Drugs affect you... thus Your actions affect others, usually for the worse.
That's why there are drunk driving laws... sure the Drunks might take offense to THAt just like the Stoners take offense POT is illegal... and the Meth-mouths that crank is illegal... and the Heroin addicts that Heroin is illegal... and the crack heads that crack is illegal.
Two words... Tough Titty.
I like to drive fast... law doesn't allow it... and in fact, I've never hurt anyone driving fast... should I be allowed to drive as fast as I want too?
You forget the 'liberal' in me is not opposed to legalizing weed, so in reality you should once again stop at "I don't disagree with you."Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You sound like your senator, John Cornyn. He puts earmarks in the bill, but since he's going to vote against it, it's OK...
I know, Steve, that you take a hands off approach. If they ever get around to legalizing it, you'll support it... But, if you were a liberal on the issue, like you claim to be, you wouldn't just throw up your hands. You'd be down in the trenches with me. You ain't. Just once, I'd like to hear you decry marijuana prohibition as much as your decry toy prohibition.
excon
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I understand... Parents aren't smart enough to prevent their children from using drugs, so for our own good, the nanny state has to step in. BUT, when it comes to things you LIKE, the parents are good to go.
Truly, I understand.
excon
So... when are you going to support allowing drilling for oil anyplace we want... as well as doing away with speed limits. Those actually have far lower impact on people than people with their choice of mind altering substances would, and why should ONE specific mind altering substance have its legal status changed and not all the rest?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And incidentally... Tobacco should be on that list.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Smoothy, my friend, you miss the point. This isn't about THINGS. It's about your belief that the government SHOULD or SHOULD NOT ban stuff. You WANT it both ways, as usual. But I'm not going to let you have it both ways, as usual...
excon
Oil is stuff... stuff I use every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
You support banning stuff. You support banning certain stuff but not other stuff.
Do you support legalizing Cocain too? How about Heroin... if not, why not?
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I believe in the Constitution... Nowhere in there does it say they can tell me how to spend my money. They can't make me buy health insurance, and they can't stop me from buying heroin.
Why do I believe that?? Because I believe in FREEDOM. You? Not so much.
excon
We aren't allowed to hunt and kill Illegals... who violate the law or gang members that terrorise entire neighborhoods. But I think we should.
There is nothing in the constitution or Bill of Rights that says you have the inalienable right to use narcotics of any sort.
Incidentally... its your people (The Democrats) that have been forcing health care on everyone, even when most people don't want it, but expecting half the people to get it free and make the other half of us pay for everyone. And the same fools that were forcing it on us claiming it was going to save us billions a year, now admit it will cost Trillions more a year and ruin everyone's standard of care and still expect us to swallow it.
Didn't see anything in the Constitution that allows that sort of power by the Federal government either.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
You're unable to make the distinction between the prohibition of THINGS, and committing murder. We're off the rails here, once again...
excon
Gang members commit Murder... many Illegals who aren't gange members commit Murder... yet WE aren't allowed to cull that herd...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Where in the constitution or bill of rights is the distinction between stuff and things differentiated?
We are allowed to cull the herd should we choose to. And yes it is in the constitution. Its called the 2nd amendment. Its one of the rights that help protect all others. The castle doctrine is a benefit of that. Gun ownership by private citizens to defend their homes is still strong. So when they come to yours its your turn to cull the herd.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
And as far as drugs goes I seem to remember a line called "the pursuit of happiness" ;)
I have a great idea . Let's make the elimination of the FDA one of our budget cuts. Since anyone can buy and sell anything regardless of safety concerns then there is absolutely no reason to have a Federal agency charged with food and drug safety .
Tom, you're busy this morning!
Hello again, tom:
Just to recap, the wingers on this page are FOR the nanny state's involvement in your life when they LIKE what the nanny state does... But, when they DON'T like what they do, they snivel...
excon
And yet you love it that the government takes my money to take care of someone else and is going to force me to buy health insurance and submit to their death panels.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The things I've been discussing are stupid and you should be supportive instead of sniveling. Banning vegetables, fast food restaurants and suing because you're too stupid to resist the whining of your children is something we should all agree on.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Who disagrees?? Certainly NOT ME. But, stupid IS stupid, right? Why should the nanny state protect stupid people who want to buy drugs??
excon
Its for the same reason they want us to stop smoking because we may die early and then we won't get the social security that doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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