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When you get married you get a tax break, but if you can't, you don't. Its one thing to have that option, and not use it, but its another thing to not be afforded the option. That's not fair.
And a greenie for New Years Starby, for standing up to hypocrisy,
Thanks Tal! :D
I said I wasn't going to get involved in this after my comment, but hey you guys know me! Haha! It's not only the tax break issue that bothers me. I was watching a show on TV just last week. An unmarried gay couple had been together for I believe it was 15 yrs. They had adopted a child, and they were a very "normal" and well adjusted family. They had a beautiful home in a nice neighbourhood, they provided well for their 10 yr old child, they were well respected in their community, and in their neighbourhood.
Well, one of them was in a terrible accident. Neither the partner, nor the child were allowed in the hospital room. That person died without being able to say goodbye to the people that they loved the most.
Then the family of the deceased stepped in. They took everything, including the child! They left the grieving partner without their child, and took everything that the three had shared over the yrs. All of their assets and possesions, and the child was no longer allowed to see the surviving parent.
Now someone tell me how this is fair, or for that matter, HUMANE! And all because they were not ALLOWED to be married.
It burns me up!
A greenie from me too Starby, that was very well said, and very true.
It's sad that some people care more about some words in a book then they do about the human beings on this planet.
If this continues, I don't see the peace everyone claims to want. It won't happen, and it's so in everyone's power to make it happen.
Okay, clunk, off my soap box. ;)
Very good points. I know I did not read through the whole thread. I really like your last point the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synnen
Take care.
Yes, Excon that is true.Quote:
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No, That is not fair at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by starbuck8
That's why legal recognition of domestic partnership is a must.Quote:
Well, one of them was in a terrible accident. Neither the partner, nor the child were allowed in the hospital room. That person died without being able to say goodbye to the people that they loved the most.
Absolutely! Both straight AND gay partnerships!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That needs to happen to protect people. Especially innocent children that don't have a say in this. Those two loving parents were not both legally able to adopt that child. So one of them had to, and that just happened to be the one that died. Shame on the family members that allowed this to happen in this little innocent child's life. I'm sure that the child is hurting enough losing one parent. Why cause her to lose two at the same time? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Synnen
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When this couple adopted the child didn't they know there was possibility that this could happen?? Little irresponsible on the part of the parents too wouldn't you agree
Hello Dare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dare81
Yeah, blaming the victim is an old right wing trick... But, we got you figured out...
excon
It's a valid question, no need to get all riled up. I just wanted to see what people think about itQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
For your information I am for gay marriages.
Dave what else you think they could have done?
Actually, I can't remember all of the details of the story, but from my understanding the couple thought that they had their I's dotted and their T's crossed. But as the way things often happen, their was obviously a glitch in the system somewhere that failed them. So the relatives that had frowned upon their gay union, found the loopholes I assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dare81
Because in a homosexual relationship, the relationship is not deemed "legal", the family, who DOES have legal recourse, can overturn things like wills and stated child custody preferences.
Basically, there is no legal protection for the surviving partner in a gay relationship if the family of the deceased contests his or her wishes. Because the family DOES have a legal connection to the deceased (next of kin), they can contest any legal document the deceased has--like a will--for their own benefit.
THAT is why gay marriage needs to be allowed. They should be allowed to have the SAME legal rights as any other spouse in the country if something happens.
So true! Can you imagine how many other things like that happen to these couples all of the time? Everything from legalities concerning children, to banking, healthcare, legal dealings, insurance policies, and the list goes on. I can't even imagine being in a situation like that, where you are treated as less than person. And still people think that being gay is a choice. Who would choose this?
I'm not gay but I'm all for gay marriage
Its what will make some people happy
There isn't nothing wrong with that
I support civil unions.
I thought we live in the land of the free. Freedom of speech and to marry whoever we choice whether if it is the same sex.
Lots of freedom in the US Constitution, but there is actually no "right" to marry at all listed,
Marriage was a state law to be regulated by the state. At 16 some states allow you to marry, others don't, at 16 some states allow you to have sex, others don't,
And there can not nor should there be "complete" freedom from morality, since there has to be a limit at some point
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