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  • Aug 3, 2019, 06:41 AM
    talaniman
    More dems have joined the impeachment movement, bringing a majority of the caucus favoring an official action, as well as a state court subpoena for the dufus biz, and family. The drum beats slowly but steadily for those who think the dufus was in the clear after the Mueller hearing. As usual the dufus antics have changed the headlines and conversation, but not the minds of many determined to expose his phony administration. Congress goes home to it's constituents soon, and we will see what the public thinks.

    The list of repubs retiring grows also, in advance of the upcoming election.
  • Aug 3, 2019, 07:04 AM
    jlisenbe
    Time will tell. If the dems bring baseless impeachment charges, it will backfire.
  • Aug 3, 2019, 07:41 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    The list of repubs retiring grows also, in advance of the upcoming election.

    That is disturbing ;although not uncommon .
    An uptick in retirements is common for the minority party after a shift in power. More than a dozen House Democrats left Congress after the 2010 tea party wave. Some of this is self imposed because the GOP set term limits on committee chairs ;(three consecutive terms),
    unlike the Dems who have the same old stale leadership year after year ;now being challenged by the so called "Core " . Members who won't be able to retain their chairmanship would rather move on than become back benchers .

    Will Hurd's announcement is more troubling because his district is a toss up(
    Hurd won by less than 1000 votes )
    ;and because he was the sole African American Republican rep.
  • Aug 3, 2019, 08:57 AM
    talaniman
    I remember the shellacking the dems took in 2010 and 2012, though Obama survived, and odds are the dufus will too, but ending the reign of Moscow Mitch would be great in my book. You're a capitalist, the flow of money from Russia through the dufus sycophants doesn't raise red flags?

    Hurd would have been a good choice to replace Coates, and qualified, but he wasn't loyal enough to the dufus. That would have been a nice touch after all those racist remarks.
  • Aug 3, 2019, 12:38 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I saw nothing in the article that would alert me to neo-nazism. However you are using nazi tactics with guilt by association


    Sometimes guilt by association is true.

    Here's a sampling of the articles on the website (Infostormer) you recommended - all in BOLD headlines:

    "Ronald Reagan Exposed as a N*****-Hating Racist"
    "Woman Unapologetic for saying, 'You're A Stupid N*****'"
    "Jewish C*** Laura Loomer Runs For Congress"
    "WaPo Jew Accuses Mitch McConnell"
    "Fat Kike Nadler To Seek Grand Jury"
    "WaPo Jewess Exposes Trump-Russian Hamburger Conspiracy"
    "Stormer Book Club Warns Public That Jew Holocaust Is Fake News"
    "Zionist Kikes Bulldoze Palestinian Homes in the West Bank"
    "Burger King Promotes Gay A** Sex in Commercial"
    "Negro CNN Anchor Cries On Air"

    You saw NOTHING that would alert you to Neo-Nazism? NOTHING?

    Your slip is showing, paraclete.
  • Aug 3, 2019, 04:33 PM
    paraclete
    Just because I read and d linked one article you think I examined all the other articles on the site as I said you draw a long bow and house a stack of strawmen, take it up with Google.. Thing is your nose is still out of join
  • Aug 3, 2019, 08:47 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Just because I read and d linked one article you think I examined all the other articles on the site


    No, I don't think you "examined" all the other articles. After seeing the topics listed in bold (see above) you had no need to.

    There was no possible reason to cite that website other than it fits in, more or less, with your beliefs. You guys always reveal yourselves, sooner or later.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 07:48 AM
    talaniman
    Like Clete said the article fit the narrative so why review the source? Is it to much to ask to vet the site? Just click home or about us, or google them yourselves. A simple scroll through would have revealed a lot as you and I did Athos.

    I took it as yet another provocation by our ever provocative Aussie friend. Over the years I've gotten use to it.

    8D
  • Aug 4, 2019, 08:37 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Like Clete said the article fit the narrative so why review the source? Is it to much to ask to vet the site? Just click home or about us, or google them yourselves. A simple scroll through would have revealed a lot as you and I did Athos.
    So you are saying you go through that process with every website you link? If, for instance, you have linked to CNN, do you notice that they corruptly tried to benefit the Clinton campaign in the last pres election???
  • Aug 4, 2019, 08:51 AM
    talaniman
    Obviously CNN could not back a corrupt businesman who has been hollering racists memes from his mouth for decades and started his presidential campaign spouting off about the brown rapists invading our country. In light of the terrorists shootings you should be condemning white nationalists and their president who enables them with the help of Moscow Mitch. You holler about the dems trashy inner cities but balk at real racists killers resorting to these mass shootings and holler your 2nd amendment rights while loonies murder our kids at school.

    Everybody but YOU is corrupt and that's just sick!
  • Aug 4, 2019, 11:05 AM
    tomder55
    I try to only use sources libs approve here because they immediatly attack the source instead of the content . The fact is that before their reconciliation AOC accused Pelosi of
    “singling out " "newly elected women of color” for criticism.I'll leave it to you if she was accusing Pelosi of being racist https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/polit...out/index.html
  • Aug 4, 2019, 12:14 PM
    talaniman
    I'm guilty! I do tend to jump on some of the far right wing loony sources. Especially when I can't find any other corroboration but other far right wing loony sources. Everybody and his brother has a website and a cause with opinions and calls themselves news or whatever, so caution is checking beyond the source. The internet gives everyone a voice but doesn't mean it's widespread or widely shared.

    LOL, progressives and moderates have the same problem that repubs have with the freedom caucus not big enough to run things, but noisy with numbers to stop things they don't like, though as yet the squad as Pelosi said is only 4 votes. Twitter doesn't count and they should learn to get fellow caucus members on board. With Pelosi it ain't personal, and she is famous for counting VOTES. Her time is short though and whomever follows her will have a lot on their hands.

    I actually felt sorry for Bonehead many times.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 01:00 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I'll leave it to you if she was accusing Pelosi of being racist https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/polit...out/index.html


    The article clearly states that AOC denies that she thought Pelosi was racist. "Absolutely not," she said. It couldn't be any clearer.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 01:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Obviously CNN could not back a corrupt businesman who has been hollering racists memes from his mouth for decades and started his presidential campaign spouting off about the brown rapists invading our country. In light of the terrorists shootings you should be condemning white nationalists and their president who enables them with the help of Moscow Mitch. You holler about the dems trashy inner cities but balk at real racists killers resorting to these mass shootings and holler your 2nd amendment rights while loonies murder our kids at school.
    1. Congratulations for completely avoiding the question. Hide and evade.
    2. Your contention about Trump being a white nationalist is nonsense.
    3. I have said nothing about the 2nd amendment and we have not discussed school shootings. You are in your fantasy land again.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 01:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    The entire exchange.

    "the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color," Ocasio-Cortez added.
    Ocasio-Cortez stood by her claim Thursday that Pelosi has been unfairly zeroing in on freshman women of color.

    "It's really just pointing out the pattern, right? We're not talking about just progressives, it's signaling out four individuals," Ocasio-Cortez told CNN on Capitol Hill. "And knowing the media environment that we're operating in, knowing the amount of death threats that we get, knowing the amount of concentration detention, I think it's just worth asking why."

    Asked if she thinks Pelosi has racial animus or is racist, Ocasio-Cortez said unequivocally, "No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not."


    The essential question was, "I think it's just worth asking why." So why would a person single out "newly elected women of color"? Not progressives mind you, but four "women of color".

    Well, I'm sure she was not trying to suggest that race had anything to do with it. It must surely be because of.......?
  • Aug 4, 2019, 01:51 PM
    talaniman
    I won't be dismissed today my friend just because you don't like or agree with my response.

    1 Your question was answered I just didn't agree with your corruption nonsense.

    2 He said publically several times he is a nationalist and he is white so figure that out.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...al/1748521002/

    3 I know YOU said nothing about the 2nd Amendment or the MAS shootings but I did now deal with it!
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    3 I know YOU said nothing about the 2nd Amendment or the MAS shootings but I did now deal with it!
    So you were wrong when you said this. "You holler about the dems trashy inner cities but balk at real racists killers resorting to these mass shootings and holler your 2nd amendment rights while loonies murder our kids at school." At least you admit you were wrong, so that's a step in the right direction.

    Quote:

    2 He said publically several times he is a nationalist and he is white so figure that out.
    Yeah, he's white so evidently in your view he must be a white nationalist. Unbelievable.

    You kind of forgot to add that he said this. "I love our country, and our country has taken second fiddle," the president said, arguing that "we're giving all of our money, all of our wealth to other countries and then they don't treat us properly."
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:03 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    2. Your contention about Trump being a white nationalist is nonsense.

    Then what is he?
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:08 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Then what is he?
    Do you understand the difference between a black nationalist, a white nationalist, and a nationalist?
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Do you understand the difference between a black nationalist, a white nationalist, and a nationalist?

    Please answer my question.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:16 PM
    jlisenbe
    If you understand the difference, then you have your answer. If you don't then say so and I'll explain it.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you understand the difference, then you have your answer. If you don't then say so and I'll explain it.

    You just can't stop with the put-downs, can you. Please answer my question.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:32 PM
    jlisenbe
    Why are you accusing me? Why so judgmental?

    I can only answer your question if you first tell me if you know the difference between the three.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:35 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why are you accusing me? Why so judgmental?

    I can only answer your question if you first tell me if you know the difference between the three.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by jlisenbe https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...post-right.png
    2. Your contention about Trump being a white nationalist is nonsense.

    Quote:

    Then what is he?
    My question is simple. The ball is in your court.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:38 PM
    jlisenbe
    My answer was simple. The ball is back to you. Do you know the difference? I must know that in order to accurately answer your question.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 02:48 PM
    talaniman
    MALARKEY, you're just being difficult! He said he was a nationalist, and he's white! He sure ain't any other kind is he? If he is what is he then Enlighten us oh great brain.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 03:17 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    My answer was simple. The ball is back to you. Do you know the difference? I must know that in order to accurately answer your question.

    No, you don't!
  • Aug 4, 2019, 03:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yes, I do, but I'm beginning to assume you don't know the difference. Correct?
  • Aug 4, 2019, 03:41 PM
    tomder55
    Seven people shot overnight near a playground in Chicago.. So in fact there were 3 mass shootings yesterday . But the nation only has interest in 2 of them .

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...518001731.html
  • Aug 4, 2019, 04:03 PM
    talaniman
    No comparison Tom.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 04:27 PM
    tomder55
    why not ? That was just one shooting in Chi town this weekend . The real number was 3 killed and 40 wounded just this weekend in that town. And that is just the 1st week in August . So far this year the number is 275 killed and 1357 wounded . Evidenty these shootings are inconvenient to the narrative .
  • Aug 4, 2019, 04:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yes, I do, but I'm beginning to assume you don't know the difference. Correct?

    I do realize it's very difficult for you to answer this in print, despite all Trump's tweets and video whereby he defines himself. I understand why you won't answer my question.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 05:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I understand why you won't answer my question.
    Perhaps we can resolve it this way. You find the definition of what it means to be a white nationalist, and then give us quotes from Trump that show he is a WN.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 06:11 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Perhaps we can resolve it this way. You find the definition of what it means to be a white nationalist, and then give us quotes from Trump that show he is a WN.

    I do understand why you won't answer my question. Thanks anyway.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 06:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I do understand why you won't answer my question. Thanks anyway.
    And I don't understand why you are not interested in the truth. Since you seem unwilling to do even a relatively simple thing, I will do all the work here. A white nationalist is not a white person who espouses nationalism. That is what I referred to as complete nonsense. What I wanted you to discover for yourself is that a white nationalist is a person who believes in a nation set aside solely for the benefit of white people. Now if you can find a quote anywhere where Trump has said that, then let's hear it. Otherwise, I think you should do the honorable thing and drop it.

    And please don't come up with a quote where Trump has called himself a nationalist. That is not the same thing as a white nationalist which I had fervently hoped you would have discovered for yourself by now. And also not a half-baked quote that you twist around to mean what you desire. A plain, clear statement would be nice. I will tell you right now you will not find one.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 06:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Otherwise, do the honorable things and drop it.

    I wasn't the one dragging it out by playing teacher.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 06:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I wasn't the one dragging it out by playing teacher.
    We will take that to mean you are being honorable and dropping it. We will also take it to mean you realize there is not a shred of evidence that Trump is a WN.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 07:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    We will take that to mean you are being honorable and dropping it. We will also take it to mean you realize there is not a shred of evidence that Trump is a WN.

    "We"????
  • Aug 4, 2019, 07:13 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "We"????
    Argue with the pronoun if you want to. It at least has been established that there is no evidence that Trump is a WN. A loud-mouthed irritant to be sure, but not a WN.
  • Aug 4, 2019, 07:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Argue with the pronoun if you want to. It at least has been established that there is no evidence that Trump is a WN. A loud-mouthed irritant to be sure, but not a WN.

    There was no discussion, and you still haven't answered my question.

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