The thread started by Ex quoting YOUR guys blaming stuff on working women. He quoted them talking crap.
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The thread started by Ex quoting YOUR guys blaming stuff on working women. He quoted them talking crap.
You would be and usually are, the first to claim that is a flaw in Republicans and the quotes were used to attack us as waging a war on women. You should expect a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
But again you just keep proving the point that you'd rather distract from your own war on women than discuss it honestly.
Where is that honest discussion?Quote:
than discuss it honestly
That's the point, genius.
There isn't any "honest discussion' in any of the Current Events threads, genius. So to ask for one is pointless.
I've gathered that "honest discussion" = "we all agree."Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
If people want to see how adults discuss things intellectually (with some fun thrown in) they could look at Slashdot threads. Of course they have a moderation system that keeps things in check. Blind fanaticism and slurs are not tolerated; that's why some people end up here.
Sorry dude, I'm not nearly as cynical as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Well I asked for an example and all you did was get sarcastic, so you kind of proved my point. But yes, I am cynical to be sure.
You're certainly doing your part to have an honest discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What do you consider an honest discussion? I've asked questions and got called names. I've politely disagree with you and got called names and was shot down.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Exactly what names did I call you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
The strong implication was that I'm stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Uh, no that doesn't fly either. You said "'I've politely disagree with you and got called names", exactly what names did I call you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
When I have time, I'll do a search. Because of what you have posted to me in the past, I avoid you like the plague.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Ah, this must be one of those 'honest' discussions, making accusations you don't back up. And yet you, like NK, seem perplexed that anyone would respond to your nonsense and needling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
P.S. You sure have an unusual way of avoiding someone like the plague.
There you go again!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I would participate a lot more on this board if I felt welcome (by you) when I post my questions and offer opinions..Quote:
P.S. You sure have an unusual way of avoiding someone like the plague.
I learned a while ago he can't help himself, it's too ingrained. You're a good person WG, don't let it get to you.Quote:
There you go again!
You want honesty? My apologies if I make you feel 'unwelcome' but with all due respect, you need to examine your own attitude and actions as well. It ain't a one way street, you accuse me of something you'd better back it up or expect a swift response, and if you can't take it then don't start it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Get a room.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You will get a swift response sir!Quote:
Get a room.
I'm trembling.
You already proved my point all by yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yep, but he can't see it.Quote:
You already proved my point all by yourself.
I bet you're both a blast at parties.
Going to one tonight!
But I get you're trying to insult us again.
If the shoe fits...
And the latest in the "war on women" being waged by Texas and other states, and in agreement with other recent polls. It seems women are in favor of late term abortion bans, but us wingers wouldn't know anything about that, right?
Another "random survey" -- "Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,468 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.6 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones."Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
OK, take the 2.6 points away and what do you have? As indicated this is not the first recent polls showing support for a ban on late term abortions, particularly among women.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
60% of women in the ABC poll favored a 20 week limit as opposed to 24% for a 24 week limit.Quote:
At the same time, reflecting underlying unease with abortion, more say it should be legal without limitation only up to 20 weeks (as in some recent state laws), as opposed to about 24 weeks, as the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the landmark Roe v. Wade case; the division is 56-27 percent (an additional 8 percent volunteer that it should never be legal).
P.S. Isn't that how most polls are done, random surveys?
Those who don't like late term abortions shouldn't get them. Can it be that simple?
Is there a comprehensive survey that's been done of women who have had late-term abortions -- how many per month and why they waited that long?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Infanticide may be legal in Canada but I don't want to follow your 'lead' on that. While you may not agree it's human life at conception, surely at some point even you can see it's killing a person that could survive outside the womb.
They don't have to marry a gay person either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So in other words the opinion of women suddenly doesn't matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
There are more opinions that don't get surveyed to listen too.
Huh? Did I say that? I asked for stats of late-term abortions and why they were done -- e.g. to irritate Republicans or for medical reasons or just for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Do a random survey of 30,000 women and let me know the result. And ask the right questions.
The Quinnipiac University poll released on June 6, 2013 --
First, the poll was deceptive in failing to define terms.
Second, the poll was incomplete.
Third, the Quinnipiac poll also asked respondents whether they thought abortion should be legal in all cases, most cases, few cases or no cases.
That Quinnipiac Poll | New York State Catholic Conference
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When women have abortions*
Eighty-eight percent of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, 2006.
*http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
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In 1987, the Alan Guttmacher Institute collected questionnaires from 1,900 women in the United States who came to clinics to have abortions. Of the 1,900 questioned, 420 had been pregnant for 16 or more weeks. These 420 women were asked to choose among a list of reasons they had not obtained the abortions earlier in their pregnancies. The results were as follows:[2]
71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn't know timing is important
5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_te...n_of_pregnancy
It was a question, hence the question mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I'm not a pollster.Quote:
I asked for stats of late-term abortions and why they were done -- e.g. to irritate Republicans or for medical reasons or just for fun.
It was 3 polls and rarely does anyone survey 30,000 people for these. A majority of women favored a limit of 20 weeks in all three. Does their opinion not matter, because I'm not the one discounting their opinions.Quote:
Do a random survey of 30,000 women and let me know the result. And ask the right questions.
Ah yes, the conservative nannyers want to ban everything - apparently they know what's better for us than we do.Quote:
So in other words the opinion of women suddenly doesn't matter?
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