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  • Oct 17, 2013, 04:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    As opposed to true chistianity, speech, which is about relationship with Christ, not telling everyone what a great Christian you are while denying help to the needy or making matters worse for your own political gain. It comes down to substance over form.

    Have you ever seen me say what a great Christian I am or deny help to the needy? No, and the most prominent "Christian" making matters worse for political gain lately lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And furthermore substance over form is giving voluntarily of my own time and resources, not taking someone else's resources and wasting the vast majority of it, so spare me the pompous pontificating.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 04:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Have you ever seen me say what a great Christian I am or deny help to the needy? No, and the most prominent "Christian" making matters worse for political gain lately lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And furthermore substance over form is giving voluntarily of my own time and resources, not taking someone else's resources and wasting the vast majority of it, so spare me the pompous pontificating.

    It seems you have a lot of prominent "Christians" among your politicians and that is who I was speaking of
  • Oct 17, 2013, 05:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It seems you have a lot of prominent "Christians" among your politicians and that is who I was speaking of

    Like I said, the most prominent lives in the White House.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 05:10 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Like I said, the most prominent lives in the White House.

    No Comment
  • Oct 17, 2013, 05:44 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Ok, right wingers LOST. But, did they LEARN? I don't think so. You?

    excon

    The US debt now stands at $ 123,000 per US worker... $16.7 trillion +.. which will now go up under this new punt, is equal to $53,000 for every inhabitant of the US including children and the unemployed.
    Students produce FY 2012 Annual report of the U.S.A. on debt, revenues and spending | The Institute of Politics at Harvard University

    I don't know if there were any winners ,but there are many many losers.
    This so called budget negotiation that will now take place will go nowhere... like past super committees or Simpson-Bowles.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 06:52 AM
    talaniman
    And shutting down the government was a brilliant plan to reign in all the stupid spending. We should have done that 200 years ago. So that 24 billion we cost ourselves to give all those lazy un-needed government workers a paid vacation helped us save how much?

    Spare me wingers while you listen to the crazy fringe who took the whole government hostage to force the rest of the congress to repeal Obama Care after you FAILED after 5 years, and an election, and court challenges and 42 votes, at tax payer expense. And after all that hollering and screaming and nothing to show for it, and I might add, nothing to show for a long time on many fronts, you have the temerity to tell me tanking the government was a great strategy.

    That's a laugh that you blame Obama for YOUR failures, and the rhinos that helped him. 87 in the house 29 in the senate that had the guts to say ENOUGH of this farce in brinkmanship.

    YOU failed, and America pays for that failure, so learn and find a better way to create the next crisis because obviously you cannot think of ways to fix things in an efficient timely manner.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    And shutting down the government was a brilliant plan to reign in all the stupid spending. We should have done that 200 years ago. So that 24 billion we cost ourselves to give all those lazy un-needed government workers a paid vacation helped us save how much?

    Spare me wingers while you listen to the crazy fringe who took the whole government hostage to force the rest of the congress to repeal Obama Care after you FAILED after 5 years, and an election, and court challenges and 42 votes, at tax payer expense. And after all that hollering and screaming and nothing to show for it, and I might add, nothing to show for a long time on many fronts, you have the temerity to tell me tanking the government was a great strategy.

    That's a laugh that you blame Obama for YOUR failures, and the rhinos that helped him. 87 in the house 29 in the senate that had the guts to say ENOUGH of this farce in brinkmanship.

    YOU failed, and America pays for that failure, so learn and find a better way to create the next crisis because obviously you cannot think of ways to fix things in an efficient timely manner.

    Perhaps you should sign the MoveOn petition to try the GOP leadership for sedition.

    Quote:

    I call on the Justice Department of the United States of America to arrest Republican Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Speaker of the House John Boehner and other decision-making House Republican leaders for the crime of seditious conspiracy against the United States of America.
    Your side has gone over the edge and looking for new heights in extremism.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    Really no different than Texas Lt. Gov. publicly calls for Obama impeachment.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    Oh yes it is, impeachment is a charge and the only punishment is removal from office. No one arrests the president, drags him to jail and charges him with a crime punishable by fine and/or 20 years in prison.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:30 AM
    talaniman
    As I said in another thread, liberals don't elect loony's to congress. A lesson your side has yet learned.

    We let them holler, but don't let them lead.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:31 AM
    excon
    Hello again,
    Quote:

    Ok, right wingers LOST. But, did they LEARN? I don't think so. You?
    I didn't think so. They're GONNA GONNA GONNA GONNA GONNA GONNA to try it again..

    excon

    PS> I did that so maybe the software will learn that I LIKE the word GONNA!!!!! And I'm GONNA USE IT WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT!!!!!
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    One is on online petition which never amounts to anything, the other is the second-highest elected official in the state calling for impeachment.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 07:56 AM
    talaniman
    The TParty did the best they could with the lies they had wrapped in the abundant supply of fresh red meat for the followers that crave it.

    What do you expect from the crowd that follows its loonys? They have to feed the loony's or else the loony's eat them too. Sounds like a zombie movie, because it is.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:03 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    As I said in another thread, liberals don't elect loony's to congress.
    Reid ,Schmucky Schumer , Madame Mimi , Grayson... so many to name... so little time .
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:16 AM
    talaniman
    None of them voted to shut down government and default on our debts. Or take hostages in a losing battle.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Reid ,Schmucky Schumer , Madame Mimi , Grayson... so many to name... so little time .

    Warren, Debbie Downer, Conyers, Franken, Rangel, Lee...
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:24 AM
    talaniman
    Your government is open for business thanks to those you just named. People are going back to work. Making money and paying bills and taxes.

    Only a loony is against that.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your government is open for business thanks to those you just named. People are going back to work. Making money and paying bills and taxes.

    Only a loony is against that.

    Must be the liberal word of the day.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:54 AM
    NeedKarma
    There goes the conservative dog whistle code word conspiracy again.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 08:55 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Must be the liberal word of the day.

    Both Chicago newspapers are full of that word in its various forms today.

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