Ask Me Help Desk - The sequester

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Looks whose putting words in other peoples mouths!.

I gave you a chance to condemn the lies, so am I wrong?

Hello again, Steve:

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I gave you a chance to condemn the lies, so am I wrong?

If you believe, as you do, that it's OUR SIDE who's the liar, and YOUR SIDE isn't, then you're wrong.

What else is new?

Excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

If you believe, as you do, that it's OUR SIDE who's the liar, and YOUR SIDE isn't, then you're wrong.

What else is new?

excon

I documented it yesterday. Your turn.

Hello again, Steve:

Uhhh, Romney lying about Obama getting rid of the WORK requirement in welfare...

Look. You're NOT going to win here, and it's futile to try.

excon

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Speaking of the scarequester that flopped, and especially to those of you who think Republicans were throwing children under the bus, a Maryland congressman skillfully exposed the administration's lies about vaccinations.

The CDC issued a document that said because of the sequester “2,050 fewer children will get vaccines for diseases like measles and whooping cough” in Maryland. Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland quizzed the CDC director on this:

So with Democrat logic, the prez could cut $58 million and all the children will get vaccinated, but under the sequester, it's the GOP's fault that children won't get vaccinated over a cut half that size (which turned out to actually be $18 million, not $30 million).

Harris said, “When they want to do with less, they can find a way. But when they don't want to find a way to do with less, they claim they can't do things in a budget-restricted environment.”

Exactly.

I did my own fact finding and came up with of course more facts, as why the 58 million was NOT cut in the first place, and why a 30 million dollar cut would not be recommended.

US disease agency in fiscal peril : Nature News & Comment

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Cuts to the CDC have already contributed to the loss of nearly 50,000 jobs in state and local health departments since 2008. This year, the administration argues that “efficiencies” will make possible the specific cuts it has proposed in areas such as adult-immunization funding and epidemiological support. But CDC advocates and public-health officials are sceptical. A proposed $47-million cut to the Strategic National Stockpile “is a lot more than just efficiency. It's going to cut capability as well,” says Crystal Franco, an associate with the Center for Biosecurity of UPMC in Baltimore, Maryland. “We are reaching the tipping point where preparedness efforts are going to be reversed because of the lack of funding,” she adds... In the current atmosphere of fiscal constraint, the PPHF has become a target for raiding, and already, as part of a payroll-tax-cut extension that was signed into law by Obama on 22 February, Congress has cut the fund by 20%, or $250 million, in 2013, and by a total of $6.25 billion to 2025.

The morale of the story, don't let a butcher do brain surgery. Come on Speech, we all know that since you cannot repeal Obama Care, defunding it is the next best thing.

You guys can just go on enjoying and excusing this administration's lies, but I didn't drink the koolaid and neither did America.

B b b b b b b b but he's the Messiah? He's perfect.

Like I said, his scarequester continues to backfire. First the WH cancels the tours and announces it, then Obama blamed the Secret Service, then Carney said the WH canceled the tours, then blamed Republicans... and I'm sure the story is still evolving but in the long run, anyone but Obama will be to blame...

White House tour move backfires on Obama

... and the scarequester will continue.

... not only does it continue but Dingy/Dirty/Filthy Harry Reid shamelessly blamed an explosion that killed 7 Marines on the sequester.

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Mr. President, it's very important we continue training our military, so important. But one of the things in sequester is we cut back in training and maintenance. That's the way sequester was written. Now, the bill that's on the floor, we hope to pass today helps that a little bit. At least in the next six months, it allows the military some degree of ability to move things around a little bit. Flexibility, we call it, and that's good. But we have to be very vigilant. This sequester should go away. We have cut already huge amounts of money in deficit reduction. It's just not appropriate, Mr. President, that our military can't train and do the maintenance necessary.

The USMC is none too happy about Reid's nonsense:

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NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports: Now I can tell you, Marine Corps officials this afternoon are taking a strong exception to what Harry Reid implied. Saying that this this exercise, for example, was planned well in advance, had nothing to do with the budget cuts. There were no corners cut, and if they couldn't afford to have all the safety precautions into place, they wouldn't do the exercise.

And in fact, one Marine Corps official told us a short time ago that he considers this nothing but pure political posturing on the backs of these dead Marines.

How low can they go?

I hear the Easter Egg Roll on the White House Lawn is a gonner .

Has the sequester introduced a sense of reality

Here's reality . The sequester is the law of the land until all elected branches get together and come up with a budget that sets spending priorities . That's what mature people would do... instead of playing this game of punishing the people in trivial ways.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

here's reality . The sequester is the law of the land until all elected branches get together and come up with a budget that sets spending priorities . That's what mature people would do ...instead of playing this game of punishing the people in trivial ways.

I thought budget bills had to originate in the house, but who would introduce a bill that has no hope of passing. The way I see this Tom is that is that the Republicans thought BO had fallen into their trap when the sequester was passed, but the fact is BO is smarter than the average republican and he let these cuts fall where the republicans would like them least thereby making them unpopular. There is nothing trivial about this, but cuts agreed to that do not seriously affect welfare programs, not only that be he got them to agree to tax hikes on the rich. I would say he has them over a barrel and he likes to hear them squeal

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I thought budget bills had to originate in the house, but who would introduce a bill that has no hope of passing. The way I see this Tom is that is that the Republicans thought BO had fallen into their trap when the sequester was passed, but the fact is BO is smarter than the average republican and he let these cuts fall where the republicans would like them least thereby making them unpopular. There is nothing trivial about this, but cuts agreed to that do not seriously affect welfare programs, not only that be he got them to agree to tax hikes on the rich. I would say he has them over a barrel and he likes to hear them squeal

Bull... Obama The average dog has more intelligence than Obama... all his blabbering and bloviating has come back to haunt him and his ratings are tanking even among the more gullible than average democrats.

And for all of his claims... the sky hasn't fallen... teahcers haven't lost their jobs... (no surprise because teachers are not paid from the federal government).

Heck the sun even came up again... which is more to say than Obama's putter.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I thought budget bills had to originate in the house, but who would introduce a bill that has no hope of passing. The way I see this Tom is that is that the Republicans thought BO had fallen into their trap when the sequester was passed, but the fact is BO is smarter than the average republican and he let these cuts fall where the republicans would like them least thereby making them unpopular. There is nothing trivial about this, but cuts agreed to that do not seriously affect welfare programs, not only that be he got them to agree to tax hikes on the rich. I would say he has them over a barrel and he likes to hear them squeal

The Constitution mandates the President submit a budget for consideration. His is late ,and when he has submitted them ,they've been voted down by huge bipartisan majorities. Meanwhile the House has PASSED one every year .The Senate has not ,so it's been impossible to have a conference committee to iron out the differences. This year at least the Senate let one out of the budget committee.
Like I said;if the White House and Senate don't grow up then sequester is the law of the land. Look the President got his tax on the rich. The spending levels of the sequester are NOT going to go away .So it's incumbent on our elected leaders to prioritize the spending ,and stop silly games like Reid(that POS) played today.

Well maybe the President likes the budget he has and all he seeks is a continuence, which the Republicans seem willing to pass. Way I see it he got what he wanted and screwed the Republicans, now that is good politicin

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Well maybe the President likes the budget he has and all he seeks is a continuence, which the Republicans seem willing to pass. way i see it he got what he wanted and screwed the Republicans, now that is good politicin

After his scarequester the people are seeing through him and hid ratings gave taken a tumble. One can only play the chicken little game so long.

Hello again, Steve:

Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Right wingers are the only people who think you can SLASH budgets and get the same level of service.. It's actually nuts when you think about it.

excon

Only left wingers think you can perform miracles by throwing trillions of dollars at it.

The Welfare program has proven the more money you hand someone to sit on their azz... the less work they are willing to do.

What, a perfect correlation and statistics also prove that the more incentive you give to industry the bigger their bank balance