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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Maybe you should read what he actually said as opposed to what your right-wing blogs say that you think: http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcrip...2/ST033001.pdf

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I did read what he said, changes nothing. He refused to support legislation that would provide care to a child that survived a live birth abortion. These babies were being left to die, sometimes just taken to a soiled utility room and left there. Has he changed his mind?

P.S. That site isn't just some "right-wing blog," Jill Stanek was a nurse in labor and delivery at the hospital where this was happening and testified along with the Illinois AG's office in support of the bill.

They get it wrong on many things as Ryan was for stimulis until he was against it, and he took the money while he was preaching how it didn't work.

Well it worked for him!! And the rest of the repubs who took the money. This is but another example of why repubs should NOT be making decision about the well being of others, let alone the direction of a nation.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

What is ALSO abundantly clear here, is that right wingers have NO idea how a woman's body works. I'll bet they were home schooled.

Republicans should be PREVENTED from EVER legislating issues on women's health.. Because when they do, they get it WRONG!!

excon

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That's bullsh*t and you know it. And unlike you when one of our clowns says something ridiculous we'll call it what it is. You won't find many if any on our side defending his stupidity unlike the whole of the Democratic troops rushing out to deny Biden's racist remarks.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I did read what he said, changes nothing. He refused to support legislation that would provide care to a child that survived a live birth abortion.

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Did you happen to understand why he voted "present" for that particular bill? I don't think you do. You'd rather yell out "infanticide!" and appeal to emotion instead of discussing facts.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

These babies were being left to die, sometimes just taken to a soiled utility room and left there.

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This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

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I especially noted "soiled."

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Originally Posted by talaniman

They get it wrong on many things as Ryan was for stimulis until he was against it, and he took the money while he was preaching how it didn't work.

Well it worked for him!!!! And the rest of the the repubs who took the money. This is but another example of why repubs should NOT be making decision about the well being of others, let alone the direction of a nation.

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We've already acknowledged Ryan's previous support so what's your point?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

We've already acknowledged Ryan's previous support so what's your point?

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That they are hypocrites who only look out for themselves.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Did you happen to understand why he voted "present" for that particular bill? I don't think you do. You'd rather yell out "infanticide!" and appeal to emotion instead of discussing facts. This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

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You really ought to know the facts before claiming "obvious fabrication."

From my link (apology accepted):

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I especially noted "soiled."

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Because it was in the testimony. Duh.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You really ought to know the facts before claiming "obvious fabrication."

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So that is the standard procedure? Any more cases like that?

If not was the doctor/hospital prosecuted?

Seems like a single isolated case that you are using to make people believe is normal practice.

You obviously did not read it.

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Well sir, your first two questions were OBVIOUSLY answered in the testimony rendering your conclusion baseless. Like I said, you might want to brush up on the facts before speaking next time. Just trying to help you keep from looking like a fool, but if you enjoy that have at it.

So that's the documented procedure? Can you link to that instead of an anti-abortionist's factless testimony?

Factless testimony? Are you saying this nurse lied to her state legislature?

That never happens??

Both sides have called out Aikin... Romney before Obama. Just love the select feigned moral outrage of the Left over 'rape '. They never showed such outrage when Clintoon raped Juanita Broaddrick ;or groped and sexually assaulted Kathleen Willey . Aikin will be forced to drop out of the race over what he said. Clintoon survived what he did .

Glad to see you support "illegitimate" rape whatever that is.

I expect you could say this is part of the war on women
'Offensive and indefensible': candidate may step down after 'legitimate rape' claims

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Glad to see you support "illegitimate" rape whatever that is.

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Nothing I wrote leads to that conclusion.