They have bank records, emails, and a bunch of witnesses. Tip of the iceberg for corruption by The Dufus cronies.
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They have bank records, emails, and a bunch of witnesses. Tip of the iceberg for corruption by The Dufus cronies.
Yes, his cronies are corrupt, no news there. The media love this sort of thing, sensation this, sensation that.
Hard not to report his daily scandals and distractions since some seem to be designed to hide other more important bad news from The Dufus.
Dossier author Christopher Steele was working for Putin crony oligarch Oleg Deripaska at the exact same time he was telling Evita and the press that Trump’s alleged ties to Russia were treason. The timeline is developing . Steele in a series of emails plead on behalf ofDeripaska to Ohr .Deripaska had his visa to US revoked due to ties to Russian organized crime.Former emperor's DOJ official Bruce Ohr helped Chris Steele make the dossier.Ohr worked directly for Deputy Director Sally Yates, who signed off on the Page FISA warrant.Emails show Steele and Ohr were in frequent contact, that they intermingled talk about Steele's research andDeripask's affairs, and that Glenn Simpson, head of Fusion GPS that hired Steele to compile the dossier, was also part of the ongoing conversation. So not only did the Evita campaign conspire with the Russians to compile the salacious and unverified dossier ;but so did various officials of the emperor's justice dept. Ohr's wife Nellie was hired by Fusion GPS specifically to investigate Trump.
http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/400...mp-russia-case
https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...oleg-deripaska
Another furrfy
the irony is that one of the alleged reasons for the investigation was Manafort's relationship withOleg Deripaska .
The reasons for the investigation no longer matter since his criminal charges have ended up in court. It's like being pulled over for a busted tail light and taken to jail for an open bottle of booze or finding outstanding warrants from past offenses. So you guys make a lot about Steele being the catalyst for an investigation, instead of being the one who dropped a dime on POSSIBLE criminal activity.
Just think if The Dufus, his son, and his cronies had come clean on their contacts we wouldn't have this mess, nor the investigation into possible conspiracy since we know what the Russians did, and are doing. The REAL question is what is The Dufus doing about it besides slow walking bipartisan congressional sanctions, and blasting his own appointed law enforcers?
Sorry Tom but no way do I take the word of a lying cheating Dufus without verifying his word. Why do you? Why does Nunes and the house? Did it ever occur to you that others didn't lie about their contacts or reasons for them and a few even reported them to the FBI like you are supposed too.
Cohen PLEADS GUILTY to 8 counts.
Manafort found GUILTY on 8 counts in first trial.
All the presidents men are guilty.
Well rally 'round the flag, boys. Never mind, Teflon Trump is in the clearQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
all this legal activity today . Still see nothing about Russians. Do I believe Trump paid off a porn star to keep quite about an affair ? Yes . Do I believe Manafort did not disclose all his income years ago ? Yes .Manafort’s trial on bank and tax fraud charges, stemming from political consulting in Ukraine that predates his stint with Trump’s 2016 campaign, Allegations of Manafort being connected to Trump on behalf of Trump was a mistrial. But mission accomplished by Mueller . He can really put the squeeze on Manafort now to try to turn him.
If Cohen pleads guilty to a campaign violation in the porn star payoff to win an election, why wouldn't The Dufus be indicted too? Or is Mueller going to get Don Jr. for conspiracy, and could Daddy be behind that too? On a side note The Dufus is at a rally and has them chanting "Lock her up!', and "Drain the swamp!".
What will repubs do about the Trumps offering Omarosa $180K of donor money to keep quiet? Can the repubs keep holding their nose forever?
you believeOmarosa ?
You believe Cohen and Manafort don't you. Yes or no? Don lives in the fan department and has that sticky stuff all over him
I don't have to believe her, but the tapes she has released thus far is compelling to say the least. Dufus Jr is certainly screwed. The pardon countdown has already started if the Dufus can stay in office long enough.
I believe Manafort tried to hide income while doing work as a representative of foreigners . I believe Cohen paid off the women he claims to have paid off .I even believe Trump "directed " him to do so . The only issue is if this is in some way a campaign financing violation. The FEC flags hundreds of them every election cycle and the candidate's campaign gets fined . Do I think Trump is a complete sleeze ? Yes . Does that disqualify him ...... ?? seriously ?
Tal she is completely discredited . What video ? That Cohen boarded the Trump campaign plane ?
Tom don't worry, your President is a sleeze, he is following a tradition long established
Lara Trump offering Omarosa a paid for nothing campaign position for 3 years that was RECORDED sounds like hush money to me, and exhibits that donors are funding a slush fund. Did the Dufus put her up to it? No proof, but no doubts in my mind either, at least for now. Are her claims of more tapes credible? We'll see. I've NEVER been a fan of Omarosa, but if she can back up her claims with REAL evidence, then it would be hard to ignore wouldn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The Dufus is a sleaze all right and the behavior of his appointments, and public behavior so far, are enough for me to disqualify him from anything else to do with government and as we keep getting more, well that's just icing on the cake I think. Without his repub sycophants in congress, and his constant tweets and TV barrages, he would have been toast already, but as the wheels of justice slowly turn I think he will get what he deserves.
Lost in all of this are repub Dufus sycophants who are under investigation and indictment that hold those safe seats in the midterm re elections this fall. Come on Tom, you were there during Watergate, can you say this is much worse? I CAN!
The " Situation Room " is a Sensitive Compartment-ed Information Facility, or SCIF. Recording conversations there is a criminal offense. If she was offered a no show job (which describes half of Washington) then she was being given a favor . Her book is tanking so clearly she miscalculated on that too. I feel sorry for current and future WH staffers because I'm sure Trump and future Presidents will take steps that security is tightened and secret recordings will never happens again.
You aren't really saying that being a sleaze is a dis qualifier for the office . It would take me too long to post all the examples from history where the President did not achieve sainthood ;even the ones the Dems anoint as such . "Trump used the "N " word " oh really ? and LBJ bragged about how the (n.....s) would vote Democrat for 200 years after civil rights legislation was passed . The stories of his blatant racism is notorious . The difference is that he was in a time before social media and 24 hr advocacy journalism. So the stories were covered up until the 1980s . As far as womanizing ;JFK has Trump beat by miles ;and yes ,his womanizing made him possibly compromised as he had affairs with mafia daughters and Russian spies .
No this is no where's close to Watergate where a President actively led a cover up ,and obstructed justice . Besides his loud mouth and tweets ,Trump has done nothing to impead this investigation .And 2 years later all that has happened is the conviction of a short time campaign manager for crimes unrelated to his work in the campaign..
Minimizing the pile of stinking dung will not make it go away. Unfortunately somebody will eventually have to clean it up, and the dems are pretty use to it. The problem repubs have is a lot of small funky stuff adding up rather fast. Yes it has been two years has it? Seems longer, but The Dufus wasted no time screwing things up.
Now Tal be generous and allow trump to self distruct
I know you're right Clete, and I'm trying to sit back and enjoy the show, but it's FUN blasting on the Dufus at every turn, and his sycophants, and some of my stubborn friends who are still holding their nose as they turn blue around the gills.
The Dufus LIED!
Trumps accountant and tabloid exec. given immunity in the Cohen case.
And Manafort tried.
One juror held out in Manafort convictions
I think the moron Cohen plead guilty to a crime that he did not commit .Alan Dershowitz argues that Trump paying for the women to be silent breaks no campaign finance laws IF he used his own contributions to his campaign. IF Cohen used his money then he was subject to limits to the amt he contributed .Trump had $480,000 retainer with Cohen. So it should've been clear that Cohen used Trump funds for the payout .If he didn't then he is as stupid as he looks . And evidently he is because the 8th count was about excessive campaign contributions .
His statements when he pleaded implicated The Dufus, NY is looking into The Trump Foundation for money laundering, boy you NY'ers can certainly cause a stir when you get out of the city. Just in... The Dufus said on Faux News that if he is impeached, the US will sink into the sea, and disappear, or some nonsense to that effect.
You think Vlad can save his bacon, or Pence can save America?
His statement is meaningless. All the left's talk of "unindicted co-conspirator" is a whole bunch of nonsense not based on law. If the prosecutor named him then it would have meaning . Cohen's ramblings have no weight ;and his case was so unimportant to Mueller that he handed it off.
Yes I know the locals here are looking into the Trump Foundation . If there is corruption and law violations there ;they are still pikers to the Clintoon Foundation; which a number of local law enforcement agencies have deliberately over-looked .
Cohen has delusions of grandeur .He believes he is some important cog in the Trump world . Trump retains many lawyers from prestigious agencies . Cohen was his grunt on the ground gofer . Trump gave him a retainers to do things like settle with porn stars . Do you really think he would've been entrusted with anything substantial ?
What is a campaign fund violation ? Is it paying your own campaign to give hush money to porn stars ? Is it $2 million in violations that the emperor only paid a fine for ? Is it Evita not reporting an expenditure that she hid using 2 intermediaries (Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie ) to pay a foreign national to work with other foreign nationals to gather information that would help her in the campaign ?
A campaign fund violation is an expenditure that is falsely labeled to hide another purpose. The Dufus and his sycophants have more than a few and how serious they are is a matter of investigation. Is Clintons piggy backing off the never trumpers efforts the same? Go ahead, investigate that also, but the priority should be the antics of the sitting exec in the White House. Or expand the Justice departments budget and resources since they are under a court ordered search for kids and reuniting them with their families.
I can wait for whatever the long time Dufus organization accountant has to say since he has been granted immunity. Congressional repubs have returned from vacation and their focus is on the Clinton emails... AGAIN. Maybe we should investigate them and drilldown on what they have to show from holding the congress since 2010. We can include the emails and Benghazi investigations in that too.
Meanwhile Lanny Davis ,a Clintonista is Cohen's att. And Mueller who asked Trump for a job When Trump won ;and had a big dispute with Trump 2011 where he ended up terminating his membership to one of Trump's courses is the lead prosecutor .
So how is any of that relevant, or is it even accurate? Was Mueller really asking for a job?
you're kidding right ? Mueller interviewed for Director of FBI before he was appointed by Rosenstein . That is a fact .His name was removed from consideration after the appointment .
I got more questions .How did the Ruskies get Donna Brazille to give Evita debate questions in advance of a debate she moderated ? How did the Ruskies get Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to rig the primaries in favor of Evita over Bernie ?
I don't question that fact, but you assert Mueller was seeking out The Dufus for a job. I don't get that, and the rest of your questions you have asked before and the loonies were pushing, though I have no doubt of the political chicanery that goes on from both parties as repubs are experts at purging and suppressing minority and democratic votes while they both funnel dark money to where they want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
A pox on both parties and an end to taxation through misrepresentation. Purge SCOTUS or impose term limits.
Where is Mueller’s referral of a case against Evita for America? Federal law requires campaigns to disclose the recipient and purpose of any payments. The Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS to compile a dossier against Mr. Trump.
Lanny Davis registered as foreign agent to represent Ukrainian businessman and organized crime associate Dmytro Firtash, who also dealt with Paul Manafort and is fighting extradition to US.
And you know the Clinton campaign didn't file the proper documents how?
We are calling Dump Mr. are we? What has he done to earn your respect? Consorted with porn stars and call girls? Cheated with failed businesses? Drained the swamp? Started trade wars? Built a wall? Dismantled Obamacare? Won a war?
This is indisputable fact .Their disclosure reports do not list any payments from Evita's campaign or the D.N.C. to Fusion GPS. They do list a total of $12.4 million in payments to Perkins Coie, but that’ was for legal consulting.The money was not for “legal consulting,” and to describe it as having been paid to Perkins Coie for legal services is intentionally misleading. The firm was a 3rd party conduit between Fusion and the campaign and DNC. In other words, money that went to the firm was ultimately paid to Fusion. And Fusion provided no legal services to anyone.
https://campaignlegal.org/sites/defa...28Filed%29.pdf
Perkins Coie's partner Graham M. Wilson all but admits this deception claiming that the "research work" was to support the provision of legal services. That claim is patently false . Their funneling money to Fusion GPS had nothing to do with legal services .It had everything to do with funding Steele's work compiling the dossier.
Looks like you will have to wait for a determination before you can lock her up, as meanwhile The Dufus is getting even more pressure, which sets up the question who gets blasted first and best. Campaign finances are a broken tail light unless it's full scale money laundering or fraud, tax evasion and we have 3 different jurisdictions looking into The Dufus stuff.
I doubt you get that far with an FEC finding, but you never know, since the right wing will never stop it's decades old witch hunt. Of course no telling what Mueller has up his sleeve because unlike The Dufus he keeps his mouth shut until he files charges.
correct . Normally a fine and pay backs except when there is a politically motive to use the issue to squeeze someone into turning state's witness. Then suddenly that person is facing jail time unless there is cooperation .Who's offices got raided ? Not Perkins Coie ..not Fusion GPS ...not the DNC or Evita's offices . So far Flynn ,Manafort ,and Cohen all got the full FBI with their guns drawn treatment .Meanwhile the FBI never asked Evita's aides for their computers . Meanwhile the FBI offered to destroy the evidence in Evita's aides computers . FBI agreed to destroy laptops of Clinton aides with immunity deal, lawmaker says | Fox NewsQuote:
I doubt you get that far with an FEC finding
If you don't see a serious double standard here then your vision is worse than Stevie Wonder's . Flynn charged with lying when even the FBI interrogator said he didn't . But have they gone after McCabe after the DOJ inspector General said he lied at least 4 times ? Was Comey charged after his blatant falsehood when he told Congress he had not written his conclusion about Evita before she was interviewed ? Clapper and Brennan both lied under oath and haven't been charged . Cheryl Mills and Huma Weiner both lied when they said they did not know Evita had a private server . Comey said he predicated the Evita investigation on the assumption that she would win the Presidency . He changed his draft from 'gross negligence ' when it was pointed out to him that is a violation of the law . Comey confessed that he passed on confidential FBI notes to a friend for the purpose of leaking them . The DOJ is working under the assumption that there is no att/client privilege when dealing with Cohen . But Mills was given complete protection to a point that she was allowed to sit in on the Evita interview and certainly knew about Evita's attempts to cover up her private server being used as a conduit to pass on classified docs .
You have alleged a lot and maybe when Sessions and the DOJ/FBI finish with The Dufus Gang, they can get the Clintons right and proper.
It's all politics. Clinton supporters want Trump fried, but are fine with Clinton riding off into the sunset. Trump supporters want Clinton brought to justice. The truth is, we had a pretty poor choice of candidates this last time around. I preferred holding my nose and voting for Trump to handing the country over to a dishonest, inept individual who would never have been nominated had she not been female.
allegations ????????????????????????????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB52NEPJxUs
https://www.realclearinvestigations...._examined.html
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