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  • Jan 16, 2014, 10:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    So you would rather the chemical spills foul the water supply, or fertilizer plants blow up? Okay, I gotcha
    And that of course is the entirely predictable, faulty liberal argument. The ol' "I think the EPA is too powerful and needs more oversight therefore I love dirty water and air."

    Try arguing honestly.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 10:46 AM
    smoothy
    I guess the left is going to blame a shrinking government for Benghazi... The NSA spying, the IRS shakedown thugs and global warming.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 11:01 AM
    speechlesstx
    Right, because as we all know government is not nearly big enough or intrusive enough.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And that of course is the entirely predictable, faulty liberal argument. The ol' "I think the EPA is too powerful and needs more oversight therefore I love dirty water and air."

    Try arguing honestly.

    There are not enough inspectors or inspections was my point.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 11:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    There are not enough inspectors or inspections was my point.
    LOL, borrow some from the IRS. We have more than enough freakin' bureaucrats to go around. Perhaps if they weren't busy doing Star Wars skits, sipping champagne in hot tubs, creating criminals to bust, harassing conservatives and just hanging out thinking up new regulations to saddle us with they might have time to inspect something.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 05:08 PM
    paraclete
    Perhaps if they were inspecting the right thing there would be enough to go around
  • Jan 16, 2014, 05:38 PM
    smoothy
    When are the vaporizors for Crack and Meth coming out?
  • Jan 17, 2014, 01:07 PM
    speechlesstx
    A surrogate for Mitch McConnell's Democratic opponent compared defeating him to liberating Europe from the Nazis.

    http://youtu.be/A_XlIU0AaQM

    Yeah, I'm sure Kentuckians feel like their senator, not governor, king or emperor has abused his Hitleresque "reign" over them.
  • Jan 18, 2014, 07:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    Cumoe says pro-lifers have no place in the state of New York.

    Quote:

    Andrew Cuomo: Pro-Life People "Have No Place in the State of New York" | LifeNews.com

    You have a schism within the Republican Party. … They’re searching to define their soul, that’s what’s going on. Is the Republican party in this state a moderate party or is it an extreme conservative party? That’s what they’re trying to figure out. It’s a mirror of what’s going on in Washington. The gridlock in Washington is less about Democrats and Republicans. It’s more about extreme Republicans versus moderate Republicans.…

    You’re seeing that play out in New York. … The Republican Party candidates are running against the SAFE Act — it was voted for by moderate Republicans who run the Senate! Their problem is not me and the Democrats; their problem is themselves. Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

    If they’re moderate Republicans like in the Senate right now, who control the Senate — moderate Republicans have a place in their state. George Pataki was governor of this state as a moderate Republican; but not what you’re hearing from them on the far right”
    Good to know the governor of your state thinks there's no place for about half his people. I'm not surprised, libs don't believe there's any room for anyone that doesn't walk in lockstep with them, that's their idea of diversity.
  • Jan 18, 2014, 07:53 AM
    tomder55
    Here is NY ,he's used to the Repubics already hanging their heads in defeat before a vote is cast. I got news for him when he comes out his insular cocoon. He's going to be considered a 'progressive ' when he throws his hat in the ring. He'll be going after Evita Milhouse from the left . But he shouldn't ignore his own left . He might be surprised .The authentic native American Elizabeth Warren is but one of the potential challengers who won't have to defend some of the decisions he's made as Governor .

    Press his on fracking ... He's run out a real reasons to stall .
  • Jan 19, 2014, 12:33 PM
    talaniman
    25 Stylish Photos of the Duck Dynasty Cast Before and After the Beards - Refined Guy

    Preppies can be rednecks too can't they? Sure they can, for ratings. Cha ching!
  • Jan 19, 2014, 05:30 PM
    speechlesstx
    So they aren't just rednecks, eh? Phil was a damn good quarterback and has a Masters, but they didn't grow those beards overnight for money. it takes a while.
  • Jan 20, 2014, 07:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Congrats to Denver and Seattle on earning a trip to the first Choom Bowl. Shame they're playing in NJ and not Denver in the Mile High Bowl. Maybe Christie can arrange some traffic problems, "weedgate."
  • Jan 20, 2014, 11:25 AM
    tomder55
    wonder what the tradtional mayors bet will be this year ?
  • Jan 22, 2014, 12:13 PM
    speechlesstx
    It's come to this, the regime is celebrating the anniversary of Roe v. Wade with a statement. They're committed to abortion on demand "Because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams."

    Unless you're one of the 55 million or so that didn't get that chance.
  • Jan 22, 2014, 02:26 PM
    paraclete
    freedom comes with a price apparently, the price of an abortion
  • Jan 22, 2014, 02:46 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's come to this, the regime is celebrating the anniversary of Roe v. Wade with a statement. They're committed to abortion on demand "Because this is a country where everyone deserves the same freedom and opportunities to fulfill their dreams."

    Unless you're one of the 55 million or so that didn't get that chance.

    Or the millions who have died by a nut in a movie theater, school, or playground, church, in there own homes, in foreign lands, or get hit by drunken drivers.

    Quote:

    freedom comes with a price apparently, the price of an abortion
    You can choose not to have one.
  • Jan 22, 2014, 03:53 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    You can choose not to have one.
    tell that to the 55 million. I'm glad my mother didn't take that choice
  • Jan 22, 2014, 04:06 PM
    talaniman
    Good for YOU! Now go tell those other than abortion dead why you are not as outraged by their deaths as you are the unborn!! From what you have written many times, those refugee's garner little sympathy, or empathy. Nor do minorities. So spare me the champion for the unborn crap.
  • Jan 22, 2014, 04:24 PM
    smoothy
    Most of those people that died by a gun were people trying to rob someone else... thieves do not have a right to life... ever... but then what has a fetus ever done to anyone to deserve it?

    Anyone that is anti capital punishment and yet pro-abortion has a serious problem with their priorities. Spare the criminals who deserve to die....but kill the fetus who never harmed a soul. Yeah....perfect logic in that line of thought........I however can't see it.

    Personally I don't care if certain groups murder their kids.....it reduces their numbers and future capacity to over breed, a good thing. I also think anyone sentenced to life without parol should be taken out back and shot.....save the taxpayer a lot of money.
  • Jan 22, 2014, 04:38 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Good for YOU! Now go tell those other than abortion dead why you are not as outraged by their deaths as you are the unborn!! From what you have written many times, those refugee's garner little sympathy, or empathy. Nor do minorities. So spare me the champion for the unborn crap.

    Refugees have my sympathy but illegal immigrants do not, there is a distinction. Those who legally come here and there are many, are accepted without question, but what they do later may be questioned. I have no sympathy for attempts to change our society into the hell holes they emerged from. Which minorities do you speak of, some minorities are more equal than others. I have no sympathy for the gay community, in my opinion they are too vocal and I don't like their lifestyle. I have little sympathy for those who will sit on their backside and take welfare and not do anything to help themselves, but if someone is prepared to have a go I have sympathy for their difficulties, which is one reason why I think there should be a fair minimum wage.

    So Tal you take your radical leftist views and condemn others for not thinking to same as you, I will always be for a "fair go" which is why I support proper access to medical services, access to unemployment support in need, regulation of the market place and the right to life as an inalienable right just like other rights
  • Jan 22, 2014, 04:45 PM
    talaniman
    How are they changing your world (illegal immigrants)? Just curious.
  • Jan 22, 2014, 05:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    How are they changing your world (illegal immigrants)? Just curious.
    My personal world; they live far away, but there is little doubt that immigration from the trouble spots of the world fuels violence in the society. I have corns between the ears listening to the debate in the media and parliament

    The nation; it is spending a great deal of money and resources on controlling the flow, housing the arrivals. This money and resource would be better spent in addressing internal issues such as lifting the indigenous out of poverty, or in international aid assistance. The nation has had to establish processing centres and camps offshore to access claims and where these illegals are found to be economic migrants return them to point of origin. Recent issues have strained the relationships with neighbouring countries who fail to take responsibility for transit of these people through their borders and with international agencies such as UNHCR. I think we are reaching a point of loosing patience, I know I am

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...122-31972.html

    Quote:

    The Prime Minister said Australia was entitled to protect its borders and would continue to do so, irrespective of Indonesian concerns over territorial incursions.
  • Jan 23, 2014, 08:20 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Statue of bigotry

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  • Jan 23, 2014, 12:42 PM
    tomder55
    When Ed Koch was running against Mario Cuomo 1977 ,the Cuomo campaign (managed by young Andrew ) put up these campaign posters that said 'Vote for Cuomo,Not the homo" . Both Cuomo s denied they were involved . But Koch never forgave either .
  • Jan 23, 2014, 02:02 PM
    paraclete
    well you could hope voters followed that advice
  • Jan 25, 2014, 07:37 AM
    speechlesstx
    Not only do Dems not care that the IRS was and still is targeting conservatives, they're currently investigating a Hollywood conservative group, Schmucky wants them to do so more aggressively.

    Chuck Schumer Call on IRS to Crack Down on Tea Party Funding: ‘Redouble Those Efforts Immediately’ | TheBlaze.com

    Add Cuomo saying conservatives have no place in his state and leftists trying to blacklist people (Phil Robertson, Maria Conchita Alonzo) and it's starting to feel like a new McCarthyism. What ever happened to your philosophy of live and let live? How does this fit in with your diversity and tolerance rhetoric? Come on Admit it, you don't tolerate anyone that doesn't tote your water and you're perfectly willing to use the government to target your fellow Americans. Payback is hell you know.
  • Jan 25, 2014, 07:51 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    Not only do Dems not care that the IRS was and still is targeting conservatives,
    Well, I'm not a Dem. They're too right wing for me, but I DO care if my president is using the IRS to go after his enemies..

    In fact, I care VERY, VERY, VERY much. I just need a little PROOF. A tad'll do. I don't need much. You don't need ANY.

    excon
  • Jan 25, 2014, 04:14 PM
    Tuttyd

    The Blaze says in the first paragraph:

    Sen. Chuck Schumer said Thursday that the Internal Revenue Service should should be used more aggressively to keep Tea Party funding in check explaining that this would help "weaken" and "exploit" the conservative movement.


    Using two isolated words from persons speech suggests quote mining. It is dishonest to insert these words ( "weaken" and "exploit") into the journalists commentary on the speech. There should be the opportunity to view the whole speech.

    It is very poor journalism that suggests a dishonest agenda.
  • Jan 25, 2014, 06:04 PM
    NeedKarma
    Meanwhile mall shootings and school shootings continue in the US as it were a normal daily occurrence. It's come to this.
  • Jan 27, 2014, 07:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Using two isolated words from persons speech suggests quote mining. It is dishonest to insert these words ( "weaken" and "exploit") into the journalists commentary on the speech. There should be the opportunity to view the whole speech.
    You sure seem to expend a lot of effort trying to discredit me. Why is that? It's a known fact that Schumer wants to annihilate the Tea Party and it's clear he'll use any means necessary, lies, smears and now force of government specifically to marginalize the Tea Party. But whatever, here's another link.

    Quote:

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., said Thursday that Democrats, the administration and the IRS must immediately “redouble” efforts to close loopholes created by a recent Supreme Court ruling that opened the floodgates for money into politics.


    “One of the great advantages the tea party has is the huge holes in our campaign finance laws created this ill-advised decision,” said Schumer, referring to Citizens United, in an afternoon speech at the Center for American Progress. “Obviously, the tea party elites gained extraordinary influence by being able to funnel millions of dollars into campaigns with ads that distort the truth and attack government.”


    Most of Schumer’s remarks focused on his ideal Democratic political playbook against conservatives. He argued that Democrats could combat the tea party by more openly discussing the benefits of government involvement in everyday Americans’ lives.


    Schumer suggested administration action on campaign finance at the end of his speech — making it appear like an afterthought. But his remarks on campaign finance — a frequent topic for the senator — provided one of the few actionable items for Democratic efforts to marginalize the tea party.


    In 2013, the administration and the IRS came under fire for targeting political groups.


    “This is not the place for a broad discussion of this issue, and it is clear that we will not pass anything legislatively as long as the House of Representatives is in Republican control, but there are many things that can be done administratively by the IRS and other government agencies – we must redouble those efforts immediately,” the New York Democrat continued.


    “Tea party members realize importance of this issue,” Schumer continued. “In the recent budget negotiations House Republicans nearly blew up the entire agreement because we would not put in the bill a provision that would prevent the IRS from moving forward and administratively closing some of the Citizens United loopholes.”


    Schumer appears to be referring to a standoff, first reported by Politico, stoked by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, to attach a rider to the budget deal that would have prohibited the Treasury Department from issuing new rules to the IRS on political activity by tax-exempt organizations.

    To discuss campaign finance reform is fine, but to do so in the context of specifically shutting down your enemies is not.
  • Jan 27, 2014, 08:33 AM
    talaniman
    Back to the real world, along with the shootings on campuses, and malls we have this,

    Brain-dead, pregnant Texas woman taken off life support; unclear if case will spark law change | Star Tribune
  • Jan 27, 2014, 01:42 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You sure seem to expend a lot of effort trying to discredit me. Why is that? It's a known fact that Schumer wants to annihilate the Tea Party and it's clear he'll use any means necessary, lies, smears and now force of government specifically to marginalize the Tea Party. But whatever, here's another link.



    To discuss campaign finance reform is fine, but to do so in the context of specifically shutting down your enemies is not.



    There is a bit of a difference between the two articles. As far as I can see, nowhere in the two articles do the quoted words "weaken" and "exploit" appear in the actual first person narrative.

    This of course doesn't mean that he didn't use the words in his speech. It is possible that these words may have not been used in relation to the IRS.

    For example, the word, "exploit" may have been used to point out the weakness in the natural divisions that exist between the wealthy elites who provide the funding and the grass roots movement. That would be a legitimate political tactic.

    The point is we don't know unless we see the words within context. I am not trying to discredit you. I am happy to accept the Blaze report provided there is evidence. I think this is a reasonable position to take.

    By being critical of the Blaze article I am not discrediting you, I am discrediting the source you are providing. I dislike left-wing dishonesty, but for some reason I dislike right-wing dishonesty even more. I guess that's just my politics.
  • Jan 27, 2014, 03:46 PM
    speechlesstx
    Removed.
  • Jan 31, 2014, 05:48 PM
    speechlesstx
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    It's come to this, Wendy the shameless liar Davis posing...as the poser she is.
  • Jan 31, 2014, 06:35 PM
    paraclete
    a pretty picture, soccer Mum?
  • Feb 1, 2014, 04:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    What offends you now about that pic?
  • Feb 1, 2014, 05:11 AM
    paraclete
    guns and flags in the same image
  • Feb 1, 2014, 06:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Offends? It's hilarious, nothing like an anti gun lib trying to look like a bada$$ to get votes. It's like Dukakis in a tank.
  • Feb 1, 2014, 09:24 AM
    NeedKarma
    Gee, that's so interesting.

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