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I see very little you EVER write that has any bearing on the topic at hand... other than to push partizan socialist viewpoints and pick trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Isn't Dudley Do-Right knocking on your door?
http://popdoctor.com/files/2011/07/Dudley.jpg
Heh... so very bitter at the world..
Have fun!
Not a fan of Duddley Do Right?. he was Canadian. I watched it as a kid.
And after a not so pretty week for the administration on Benghazi, the most transparent administration EVAH met with the media. Off the record of course.
P.S. I think Hillary is going under the bus.
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-conten...ghazi-trap.jpg
She is right where John Kerry wants her.
Kerry: State Dept. 'Will Leave No Stone Unturned' On Benghazi - KMBZ
Part 2 of my rare agreement with Dennis Kucinich...
How's that foreign policy guru looking now? Are you lefties seeing a pattern yet? Seems Obama's primary policy objective is image control and nothing more.Quote:
Progressive former Congressman Dennis Kucinich said Sunday on Fox News that the Obama Administration’s Libyan policy was to blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi. The former Congressman argued before leaving Congress after losing the his primary for his newly drawn Congressional district in Ohio that American intervention in Libya was a mistake.
Kucinich argued the Obama Administration initially said it was a protest because of what he called “the failure of the Benghazi policy” as well as the upcoming election last November.
“What the attack on the consulate brings up is the failure of the Benghazi policy from the beginning. That’s why they had to call it a street demonstration instead of an attack. On the eve of an election that brought up a whole new narrative about foreign policy, about dealing with terrorism, and about the consequences that led to four deaths of people who served the United States.”
The former Congressman also slammed the Obama Administration response to the attack saying he was “offended” by the response to the attack and the lack of consulate security leading up to it.
“We went into Benghazi under the assumption that somehow there was going to be a massacre in Benghazi,” he said. “So we went there to protect the Libyan people. We couldn’t go into Benghazi to protect our own Americans who were serving there? I’m offended by this, and there have to be real answers to the questions that are being raised.”
Who gives a damn about 4 dead Americans, giving al Qaeda and its Jihadist allies a free zone to operate from in Libya and an otherwise totally incoherent foreign policy, he has an image to protect.
Why was Chris Stevens even in Benghazi at the most dangerous time of the year and when he knew all the security was in Tripoli and his consulate was a target numerous times? He himself complained of the inadequate security, so why did he ignore his own warnings?
You should be asking that of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I gave you the answer to that . Got to get Petraeus under oath. He and Evita ,along with Stevens were coordinating the weapon transfers .The policy of arming the anti-Assad jihadists (and recruiting Libyans for the effort ) was undemined by the drone policy that then Deputy National Security Advisor John Brennan (now CIA chief ) was running out of the White House .
What happened ? A drone strike took out an AQ leader named Abu Yahya al-Libi on June 4, 2012 .His death was later confirmed by the Ayman al-Zawahiri September 2012. He called for revenge attacks against Americans in Libya in particular ,and around the ummah on the anniversary of 9-11-01.
This was the real cause of all the embassy attacks... not some stupid Youtube video that no one saw.
They will never say anything about the judgment of an ambassador even if he was known to ditch his security detail in the past. Nor I doubt they lay blame to him disobeying an order to keep his head down and those would have been my ORDERS to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Nor will any one divulge any operation secrets of the CIA. Having said all that the real business of the nations problems gets moved off the priority list.
To Tom,
Protests at diplomatic missions [edit]Quote:
On September 11, 2012, a series of protests and violent attacks began in response to a YouTube trailer for a film called Innocence of Muslims, considered blasphemous by many Muslims. The reactions began at U.S. diplomatic mission in Cairo, Egypt, and quickly spread across the Muslim world to additional U.S. and other countries' diplomatic missions and other locations, with issues beyond the offense at the movie trailer becoming subjects of protest. In Cairo, Egypt a group scaled the embassy wall and tore down the American flag to replace it with a black Islamic flag.
Please take note of the Interactive map included on the site. I count 36 protests and attacks. Whether they saw the movie or not, they sure knew about it. The fundamentalists made sure of that.Quote:
Widespread protests followed screening of excerpts of the trailer in Egypt. Many of the protests were focused on United States embassies and consular posts, with some leading to violent confrontations.
Go ahead Tal, blame the dead ambassador for his own demise and remain in denial about the rest.
At the time of Benghazigate... that video had all of roughly 600 views. Most of those "Protestors" didn't even have electricity or running water... much less internet access.
The Video from the embassy, and yes they do have video cameras at EVERY Embassy... and those all feed back to the USA real-time... showed no protest in Libya. Obama wasn't interested and went to bed right afterwards... and Hillary was pounding down a few drinks... neither did their jobs.
It is a flat out lie about the video... Mohammed al Zawahiri, the younger brother of AQ leader Ayman al Zawahiri, admitted to helping organize the protests at the U.S. embassy in Cairo. Mohammed al Zawahiri is a longtime Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative .The EIJ is basically AQ in Egypt . Both the EIJ and Gamaa Islamiya (IG), another close ally of AQ , planned to protest outside of the U.S. embassy in Cairo before the video became known.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Again... The day before the embassy protest in Cairo, on September 10,Ayman al Zawahiri called on jihadists to exact revenge for the death of Abu Yahya al Libi. .
9/11 anniversary: Ayman al-Zawahiri confirms June death of Abu Yahya al-Libi - TelegraphQuote:
42-minute video recorded by Zawahiri, who took over as emir of the group after Osama bin Laden was killed by US Navy Seals last year, announced the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi.
American monitoring groups said the video was posted on Jihadi internet forums on Monday, a day ahead of the eleventh anniversary of 9/11.
It is the first appearance of Zawahiri, who is believed to be hiding in Pakistan's tribal regions, in three months.
"I proudly announce to the Muslim umma and to the Mujahideen ... the news of the martyrdom of the lion of Libya Sheikh Hassan Mohammed Qaed," he said, referring to Libi by his birth name, rather than his nom de guerre.
The death of the group's chief propagandist was interpreted as the biggest in a series of blows to al-Qaeda since the raid that killed Osama bin Laden last year.
Even given your inability to access a bigger confluence of events, does it make any logical sense for an ambassador to be in Benghazi on 9-11 in the first place?
Hillary specifically asked for this particular man to go... at her request. Makes you wonder is we don't have another Vince Foster type scandal at play here.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The rumors from the tinfoil hat crowd say that either he was there to arrange shipments of arms to the AQ in Syria via the Turkish Ambassador or that he was to be the star in a kidnapping/hostage rescue that was screwed up when Ty Woods lit the 'kidnappers' up with his laser designator.
Already told you why he was there . He met with the Turkish ambassador Ali Sait Akin 5 days after a Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, dropped anchor in the Turkish port of Iskenderun... 35 miles from the Syrian border ; on Sept. 6... carrying 400 tons of cargo including RPGs and shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) .Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Now this tin foil hat found the NY Slimes report that Evita and Petraeus met to discuss vetting and arming Syrian rebel groups .
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us...pagewanted=all
The Slimes said that the White House worried about the risks, and with President Obama in the midst of a re-election bid, they were rebuffed. I don't think that is accurate . I think they ran it from that point in a covert manner.
Why do I think that ? Because the same Slimes in June of last year reported that the CIA was operating in Turkey helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/wo...pagewanted=all
We already know that Stevens was heavily involved in collecting and securing Libyan weapons after the fall of Q Daffy . We also know that trucks with heavy machine guns mounted on them took up blocking positions around the mission at around 8:00 p.m ,effectively cordoning off the area, over an hour before the attack(9:40 p.m) at roughly the same time that the meeting was concluding... and somehow Ali Sait Akin got out of the area before the attack began.
So why was Stevens in Benghazi that night ? To negotiate with the Turkish ambassador which groups of Syrian rebels could get the weapons transfers.
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So what would the purpose of congress making a CIA covert operation public?
Pure politics Tal, embarrass the administration
It went public when Stevens was killed. Only 6 Ambassadors have been killed in U.S. history. Congress is making the cover-up public, just like Evita got her start by doing to Nixon.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
What you are saying is Evita had years to perfect coverup how come this one is so clumbsy
Hubris . They count on the press running cover for them .Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Stuff that hasn't hit tne press yet... or even FOX which if verified make this far worse and far more serious than we even thought it was.
They Came, They Murdered, They Covered It Up:
When General Hamm received his "stand down" orders from Panetta on behalf of Obama, he defiantly made plans to go ahead with the rescue and was arrested within minutes of contravening the order by his second in command, General Rodriquez.
Out to sea, Admiral Gayouette, the commander of Carrier Strike Group Three, was preparing to provide intelligence and air cover for General Hamm's rescue team in violation of his standing orders and he was promptly relieved of command for allegations of inappropriate leadership judgment.
Both men are being held today in undisclosed locations. As an aside, if there is any kind of a silver lining in these very dark clouds it appears that much of the senior military leadership has had enough of the traitorous Obama and his den of corrupt criminals and some of them are willing to risk career in the name of actually serving the American people.
Mr. Hodges reminds us Hillary Clinton has been connected to a string of suspicious and suspiciously convenient deaths in the past. We also recall former president Bill Clinton is accused by some of handing military secrets to China while in office, and former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta's public involvement with a self declared Marxist organization, and president Obama's alliances with terrorist revolutionaries and malodorous race supremacists.
Mr. Hodges's version of the Benghazi event is volatile stuff. It describes near-treason if not treason itself. If the allegations centering on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are substantiated, and if principals in the administration are shown to be complicit, they betrayed their oath and their countrymen on behalf of an active belligerent. It's alleged elsewhere untraceable foreign accounts are a substantial source of their political funding, which may speak to the question of embedded duplicity on a more quantitative basis.
What difference at this point does it make?
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Ms. Clinton needs to understand, deeply and abidingly, "it" makes a difference at this or any other point. The nation should not accept the "mistakes were made" brushoff this time, nor apologies and resignations, nor even outright terminations. We're running out of dirt to draw a line in. If all or most of this is true, it warrants aggressive and decisive legal proceedings to remove co-conspirators from office on an emergency basis, and bulldog prosecution for all involved, top to bottom and side to side.
That is my general understanding of the purge of the senior ranks in the days after Benghazi. Wish one of them would come forth and testify . But they have pensions they are protecting .
Since this is devolving into the "What's new at 1600 Scandal Ave." thread, the hits just keep on coming.
Great news: US has misplaced two former Witness Protection Program participants “known or suspected as terrorists”; Update: Failed to update no-fly lists? « Hot Air
Yep... just heard that one hit the news... just now.
Hello again,
Enjoy your orgasm while it lasts. But, as Obama said, there's no THERE, there. There's only right wingers running around with their hair on fire.Quote:
What's new at 1600 Scandal Ave.
Excon
Right. Tricky D!ckie wasn't a crook, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The speech you will hear by the summer :
" It can now be revealed that my wife Michelle conceived and led the Benghazi cover-up ;the AP wiretapping ,and the IRS assault on the right wing. I am deeply disappointed ;and let me be clear ;I will not tolerate this behavior ............uuuuhhh ....I of course had nothing to do with it".
Very humourous Tom and right on the money. It's called plausible deniability, of course he didn't know right at the moment it happened but he knew when someone told him.
Only truly incompetent leaders don't know what the people under them are up to at all times...
And its just as true with Politicians as it is a Manager for a McDonalds
He obviously needs more informants thenQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I don't believe he is that clueless... I believe he knows everything that was going on...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I think he's has ZERO leadership skills... but I don't believe he's that clueless about what his people are doing.
Well the witch hunt will inevietably find answers but the witch has flown
On this point I disagree. I do believe he put his favorite ideologues in authority and thought he could take credit for what they did. Witness his preening over the Osama raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Now that his ideologues have screwed up and gotten caught, he's going to try to rename them all "Bush."
Yes . Then he has time for golf and hosting celebrity concerts in the White House.(oops ,I said golf.. how very racist of me ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
The latest defense from the White House on Benghazi, they aren't liars, just idiots. No, really.
I have more confidence than ever in this administration!Quote:
"We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."
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