Get used to it... photo ids are here to stay.
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Get used to it... photo ids are here to stay.
For whom? Why? My state doesn't require one.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
He meant if you live in Republican controlled states. You know red ones that that are clamping down on early voting? Shutting down DMV's, and telling seniors that their bibles are not proper proof of their existence or their rights to vote, while purging the voter roles of alien sounding names like Gonzales.
Those states.
It's coming... the last attempt was defeated in March but there are about 8 other bills floating around your state legislature and Senate... it's just a matter of time. It's a matter of defending America's electoral integrity.
From what? Voting for the "wrong" candidate?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Why doesn't the GOP work hard to get black and Latino votes? Where is the black convention speaker?
Why the irrelevant questions ? Fact is that in States like Georgia and Indiana ,voter participation rose after the photo id laws were passed.
And the circle begins again. Any new objections that haven't been thoroughly debunked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Who says they aren't? And what exactly does having a black convention speaker prove?Quote:
Why doesn't the GOP work hard to get black and Latino votes? Where is the black convention speaker?
At least then there would be one black person at the convention.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Debunked to YOUR satisfaction, but minorities disagree strongly. They will have their IDS, but you won't have their votes.Quote:
QUOTE by speechlesstx;
And the circle begins again. Any new objections that haven't been thoroughly debunked?
I think gaining trust will take more than campaign ads.
As if it will be whiter than Obama's cabinet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
And you won't the votes of felons, dead people and those voting in more than one state. I can live with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And less of this:Quote:
I think gaining trust will take more than campaign ads.
Lots of minorities represented in that gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
All 16 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
A felon that's done his time should be given his rights back or what's the point of letting him out? To connect that with dead people voting and jumping from state to state is a real stretch and voter ID will NOT solve that problem. Those are problems for the registration process not the polls. And since when do we round up a bunch of folks to catch a very few?
Come on into the real world why don't you. And while you are at it, tell Romney to stop lying about his welfare ads. Blatant racism!! You have to be blind or scared, or both not to see that.
Oh come on. Your not even thinking here just spoutng off. DO you really believe that about a felon? What if it is a rapist or child molester ? Should they just serve their time and that's it? Or as it is today they has to register as an offender?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
There are already ways for felons to have their rights restored.
Hello again,
You know I can hear you...
excon
Lol. Have another beer and take your nap so you can skip a few answers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
What does that have to do with the right to vote after one has served time and paid his debt to society? If he has to register as a sex offender so what, that's but a condition of release for his offense. The guy with the four year term for possession should be given a chance at being a good citizen, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
I wonder how Al Franken got elected...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
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To date, 1099 felon votes have been identified, and 177 people have actually been convicted of voting illegally, with 66 more awaiting trial.
Depends on your definition of "lots."Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
As to you earlier question, minority speakers at the GOP convention include: South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Condoleezza Rice, New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, GOP Puerto Rico National Committeewoman Zoraida Fonalledas, Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love, Puerto Rico Gov. Luis Fortuño and former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis.
But I'm sure they aren't genuine minorities and can't match the stature of Sandra Fluke.
P.S. MSNBC was so intent on convincing their 19 viewers that Republicans are just plain racist that they refused to show last night's minority speakers.
Got to pander to those 12 rabidly liberal viewers.Quote:
MSNBC wants you to think the Republican Party hates minorities. So much so that the liberal news network cut minority speeches from it's convention coverage.
When popular Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, the GOP nominee for Senate, took the stage, MSNBC cut away from the Republican National Convention and the Hispanic Republican from Texas' speech.
MSNBC stayed on commercial through former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis' speech, as well. Davis, who recently became a Republican, is black.
Then, when Puerto Rican Governor Luis Fortuno's wife Luce' Vela Fortuño took the stage minutes later, MSNBC hosts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews opted to talk over the First Lady's speech.
And Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval? Noticeably missing from MSNBC, too.
Mia Love, a black candidate for Congress in Utah, was also ignored by MSNBC.
THe speech by Artur Davis MSNBC refused to show:
Excerpt:
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We don’t need flowery words about inequality to tell us that, and we don’t need a party that has led while poverty and hunger rose to record levels to give us lectures about suffering.
Ladies and gentlemen, there are Americans who are listening to this speech tonight who haven’t always been with you, and I want you to let me talk — just to them – for a moment.
I know how loaded up our politics is with anger and animosity, but I have to believe we can still make a case over the raised voices.
There are Americans who voted for the president, but who are searching right now, because they know that their votes didn’t build the country they wanted.
To those Democrats and independents whose minds are open to argument: listen closely to the Democratic Party that will gather in Charlotte and ask yourself if you ever hear your voice in the clamor.
Ask yourself if these Democrats still speak for you.
When they say we have a duty to grow government even when we can’t afford it, does it sound like compassion to you — or recklessness?
When you hear the party that glorified Occupy Wall Street blast success; when you hear them minimize the genius of the men and women who make jobs out of nothing, is that what you teach your children about work?
When they tell you America is this unequal place where the powerful trample on the powerless, does that sound like the country your children or your spouse risked their lives for in Iraq or Afghanistan?
Do you even recognize the America they are talking about? And what can we say about a house that doesn’t honor the pictures on its walls?
John F. Kennedy asked us what we could do for America. This Democratic Party asks what can government give you. Don’t worry about paying the bill, it’s on your kids and grandkids.
Bill Clinton took on his base and made welfare a thing you had to work for; this current crowd guts the welfare work requirement in the dead of night.
Bill Clinton, Jack Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson reached out across the aisle and said meet me in the middle; but their party rammed through a healthcare bill that took over one-sixth of our economy, without accepting a single Republican idea, without winning a single vote in either house from a party whose constituents make up about 50 percent of the country.
You know, the Democrats used to have a night when they presented a film of their presidential legends: if they do it in Charlotte, the theme song should be this year’s hit, “Somebody That I Used to Know.”
You guys can have him, and Allen West too! I failto see your point.
Hello again, Steve:
I say you declare war on women... You say, NO.
He says, "When they say we have a duty to grow government even when we can't afford it", I say he's repeating right wing talking points..
So, WHEN I hear a Republican, even a black Republican repeating the right wing LIES, I turn off. I'm just not INTERESTED in ANYTHING else he has to say - NOTHING! He's a right wing blackbot..
excon
Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Hard to give him credence when he trots out that lie for all to hear.Quote:
Bill Clinton took on his base and made welfare a thing you had to work for; this current crowd guts the welfare work requirement in the dead of night.
Obviously you're not one of those "Democrats and independents whose minds are open to argument."Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And the tradeoff is Davis for Charlie Crist. He's probably suntanned enough to somewhat resemble a minority but otherwise he's just an opportunistic dufus. We got the better end of the deal.
Prove the lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Um, this is the guy that nominated Barack Obama four years ago. I'd hardly call that a "right wing blackbot" but I get it, any black that joins the GOP isn't genuinely black. And you think WE are the racists.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I read what you wrote he said, and I am not impressed, and neither would you be if you followed his campaign in Alabama.
But obviously a black face is all you need to claim diversity, and that's par for the course since a few dem votes makes things bi partisan.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Wow. Here's the problem.. You guys don't know the difference between politics and racism... I don't like THIS particular black person. I don't like Allen West either.. And, NO, that doesn't make me a racist... I think Dennis Miller is a comicbot, too, but that doesn't mean I hate all comedians.
excon
Better to be diverse than claim it hypocritically.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The only ones paying attention to skin color are on the left, we're way past making it about race.
Your side not only won't let it go, you do your damnedest to de-legitimatize any minority that dares not toe the Democrat line. You just did it, ex just did it, MSNBC deceived its 7 viewers by intentionally cutting away to something else when a minority speaker was up. That's downright despicable.
He was rejected by the dems, you guys took him. You got him!
Wow. Coming from the side of the aisle that's spent 4 years telling us Obama's politics has nothing to do with why we dislike him, the ONLY POSSIBLE REASON we don't like, excuse me I believe your word is HATE, Obama is because he's black. But you gave me a chuckle for trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
You guys decided day one that you would not help him at all, and have thrown rocks ever since.
He has deported more illegals than any president, you holler the fence isn'thigh enough. He sends more troops to the border, you holler he hasn't sent enough so you need to round up everyone who talks different, or looks different and hold them. He shrinks the federal work force, you guys say he is growing government. He gives welfare to the states you holler he is giving away money.
He cuts taxes you guys say he spent too much, he sends the states money, you guys take credit for it. He kills Osama, you guys say Bush did it.
He farts, you guys say he pollutes the air. Get my drift? Cry b1tch and moan about what he isn't doing right. While you do NOTHING but holler.
Again you refuse to acknowledge reality. Republicans tried to reach out, he said "I won." The House has done their job, your Democrat-controlled Senate won't consider anything, they haven't passed a budget in 3 years. He rammed Obamacare through, he formed a bipartisan debt commission and ignored them. Hell, he doesn't even help his own party, he 'leads' from behind. We need someone to lead, not a campaigner-in-chief.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
More right wing talking points? I think so?
No problem:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-welfare-work/
No sir. Facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Like I said, we need someone to lead, not a campaigner-in-chief.Quote:
Republicans tried to reach out, he said "I won."
The House has done their job, your Democrat-controlled Senate won't consider anything,
Obama Campaign Says GOP Blocking Jobs Bill--After Reid Blocks Jobs
Sen. Reid: Boehner Bill is DOA at Senate
Senator Reid Blocks Republican Jobs Bills
they haven't passed a budget in 3 years.
He rammed Obamacare through
he formed a bipartisan debt commission and ignored them.
Hell, he doesn't even help his own party, he 'leads' from behind.
Even more right wing talking points, keep screwing the country and blame the president. Just because he is a DEMOCRAT.
Read the plan by Mitt yet??
More? No, the same facts backed up. So what is it about the Mitt plan that takes from the poor, who have nothing to take, and gives to the rich. The 20 percent across the board tax cut? Eliminating the tax penalty on investments for those making less than $200k? I hardly see how letting you keep more of your money is stealing from the poor.
"Congress specifically shielded TANF from the waiver process to keep work requirements intact, this administration unilaterally overwrote the will of congress."Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That sir is fact.
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