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  • Apr 2, 2021, 02:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The only people who are eligible for refugee status is Venezuelans. All the others claim or are attempting to be escaping poverty and that is not a criteria for refugee status.

    I thought Central America especially is rife with gang violence.
  • Apr 2, 2021, 03:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    Build...a...wall.
  • Apr 2, 2021, 03:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Build...a...wall.

    Mr. Master Builder and Businessman couldn't get it done in four years ....
  • Apr 2, 2021, 04:19 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I thought Central America especially is rife with gang violence.
    Economic migrants are not eligible for refugee status by our laws ;and that is what the vast majority of the asylum seekers are really applying for . They in fact expose themselves to gang and cartel violence the closer they come to our border.

    They have to prove they are the victim of past persecution or have a well founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, They must prove that they were persecuted in their home country. The persecution must have been based on grounds of race, religion ,nationality ,political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.
  • Apr 2, 2021, 04:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    Complete...the...wall.
  • Apr 2, 2021, 05:34 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Complete...the...wall.

    Forget the wall, they are poor, pay them to go home, quicker and cheaper. it doesn't take an economic genius to figure that out, or maybe it does
  • Apr 3, 2021, 02:53 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    pay them to go home, quicker and cheaper.
    and counter intuitive . You need disincentives from coming here .Rewarding them for the effort does not accomplish that .
    Quid created this crisis when he opened the border and invited them . When asked why they came now in interviews ,the illegals make it clear that they are here because Quid gave the green light to them .
    Biden immigration policies cause a predictable border crisis. Why didn't he plan for it? (nbcnews.com)

    This was a black swan event for Quid . This surge should've been an obvious consequence of his rhetoric to him and his policy advisors . (and no AOC ;surge does not mean we are accusing them of being inSURGEnts )

    When Quid realized his error ,he modified his rhetoric slightly and said basically ..... come ..... but just not now ..
    Incoming Biden administration to migrant caravan: Don't come, you won't get in immediately (nbcnews.com)

    The administration is not serious about the problem. Quid appointed VP Harris to be the point person . She gives a stupid sounding laugh and chuckle when asked when and if she plans on even visiting the border . A week later we are still wondering what the plan is besides appropriating convention centers in the heart of down town San Diego ;where covid infested teen illegals(around 10% infected ) are given free in person education ;after the teacher's unions who represent those " volunteer" teachers (who by contract are still getting paid by the taxpayers of the city ) balked for months at opening up the city schools for in person instruction .They argued that teaching California students ,that have about a 0.002% rate of infection ,was too risky.

    Go ask Mexican American parents of students in San Diego if they are happy with this as they stayed home from work because their children were at home getting fake Zoom education .
  • Apr 3, 2021, 03:23 AM
    tomder55
    There is a large gathering of illegals at the San Ysido crossing in Tijuana into San Diego . The tent city is growing daily . Expect another surge any day now
  • Apr 3, 2021, 04:30 AM
    paraclete
    I thought there was a wall at San Diego
  • Apr 3, 2021, 04:46 AM
    tomder55
    There is . The San Ysido crossing is the busiest crossing point in the country . More than 10 million people cross back and forth over 'la linea' annually, American tourists go into Tijuana . Legal workers routinely cross it . Tons of commerce go through it . We do have a major trade treaty with Mexico , When sufficient numbers of illegals bum rush the check point will the government have the will to stop them ? Again ;the issue is that Quid sent out the signal that all are welcome.

    The camp was established after the Biden administration announced on Feb. 12 that asylum-seekers waiting in Mexico for court dates could be released in the United States while their cases wind through the system.

    Amid border surge, confusion reigns over Biden policies (apnews.com)
  • Apr 3, 2021, 05:18 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    they are poor, pay them to go home
    That makes no sense. They will take the money and then come back to get another payment. Build the wall.
  • Apr 3, 2021, 09:02 AM
    tomder55
    On Friday Texas Department of Health and Human Services told ABC News that from March 1 to March 30, there has been a total of 647 COVID-19 cases in 40 out of 50 Texas HHSC Office of Refugee Resettlement operations. These are self-reported positive COVID-19 cases in migrant children in care.

    Bus carrying unaccompanied migrant girls arrives at Houston shelter (msn.com)
  • Apr 3, 2021, 01:24 PM
    talaniman
    So what Tom? We have treatments and vaccines for the sick.
  • Apr 3, 2021, 01:48 PM
    tomder55
    Why should we take in illegal covid infected people ? When someone tried to enter the US LEGALLY there were screening and processing placed like Ellis Island . Those who had infectious diseases were deported .

    You can't be serious . The city of San Diego is still in partial lock down over an infection rate that is miniscule compared to the 9-10% infection rate they are allowing in to the convention center . AND the taxpayer has to foot the bill and pay for the in person education for these illegals that is being denied to their own children ?
  • Apr 3, 2021, 02:11 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Why should we take in illegal covid infected people ?

    Many refugees are children and teens. What will you do with them? Make them face south, give them a little push, and say, "Go home"?
  • Apr 3, 2021, 02:50 PM
    paraclete
    sounds like a plan
  • Apr 3, 2021, 04:02 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Many refugees are children and teens. What will you do with them? Make them face south, give them a little push, and say, "Go home"?
    something like that .
  • Apr 3, 2021, 05:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    What will you do with them?
    Why do liberals always want to act noble because they can ask what someone else is going to do about a problem?
  • Apr 3, 2021, 06:04 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That makes no sense. They will take the money and then come back to get another payment. Build the wall.

    of course there have to be rules, like no seconds, and but it was found a successful way of getting refugees to go home here, If poverty is the problem, solve it. The other factors you may not be able to do much about but it is a start. You want a wall but there isn't much support for it now and it is expensive and divisive. Look the War on Drugs is part of this problem, legalise drugs and solve the problem, destroy the market, control the market, for capitalists you don't understand business much
  • Apr 3, 2021, 06:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why do liberals always want to act noble because they can ask what someone else is going to do about a problem?

    In other words, you have no clue what YOU would do if it were up to you. And you don't even want to think about it. After all, there's nothing in the Bible about us helping foreigners and refugees!

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